Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (1 Viewer)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Also, even when everyone’s vaccinated there’s going to be another 30k deaths minimum. That just goes up the earlier we open.

It’s frustrating as hell, but I still think we’ve got the best mix of vaccine delivery and lockdown on the planet. The Yanks are basically open and are losing 700 people a day still despite being at roughly our levels of vaccination.

That’s because while the Yanks have very good supply they’ve just distributed it first come first served rather than systematically going down the ages and vulnerabilities. Someone we know over there is 27, perfect health and already had two jabs four weeks apart.

 

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[Deleted member 5849]

Think about it this way, another 2 weeks means another 6/7/8 million jabs and full immunity for the second jabs so far. Hold the course.

Yeah, it's easy to say open up early when you've had a vaccine!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah, it's easy to say open up early when you've had a vaccine!

Getting contacted by people wanting to do free for all gatherings in June. Good chance I still won’t have immunity by then and Mrs BSB definitely won’t, so we’re declining. Not going to let a last minute COVID infection scupper the wedding.

Good for the huge numbers who are lucky to have had it I suppose

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Getting contacted by people wanting to do free for all gatherings in June. Good chance I still won’t have immunity by then and Mrs BSB definitely won’t, so we’re declining. Not going to let a last minute COVID infection scupper the wedding.

Good for the huge numbers who are lucky to have had it I suppose

I won't be comfortable doing such things until all people involved have been vaccinated. It's not perfect, so I'd rather depress things down both on my side, and other peoples' side really - as much so I've done as much as I can, and don't finish other people off for the sake of a week or two!

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

That’s because while the Yanks have very good supply they’ve just distributed it first come first served rather than systematically going down the ages and vulnerabilities. Someone we know over there is 27, perfect health and already had two jabs four weeks apart.

Can't have that level of gov't interference suppressing the freedoms of the individual.

 

[chiefdave]

the roadmaps actually worked a treat so far so why deviate?

I completely understand the desire to open things up faster but we need to hold our nerve. Every time we've ignored the experts and come out of lockdown earlier than recommended its been a mistake. Lets not blow it now for the sake of a couple of weeks.

The Yanks are basically open and are losing 700 people a day still despite being at roughly our levels of vaccination.

With others opening up before us that will just give us more data to look at. How have the US got to this position so quickly? They seemed to be in all sorts of trouble only a few weeks ago. Remember just before Christmas Tennessee was being described as the worst place in the world for covid yet now they have bars, restaurants etc open with no restrictions at all and plans in place for hundreds of thousands to attend a 4th July concert as if covid had never happened.

 

[wingy]

For instance my quandary is that foreign holidays were permitted last summer, but seemingly still face significant obstruction currently.
Which stance was right or not.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

For instance my quandary is that foreign holidays were permitted last summer, but seemingly still face significant obstruction currently.
Which stance was right or not.

Case rates last summer were very low, and no variants of concern were around. This time there are more infectious variants around and case rates on the continent are still relatively high.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I completely understand the desire to open things up faster but we need to hold our nerve. Every time we've ignored the experts and come out of lockdown earlier than recommended its been a mistake. Lets not blow it now for the sake of a couple of weeks.

With others opening up before us that will just give us more data to look at. How have the US got to this position so quickly? They seemed to be in all sorts of trouble only a few weeks ago. Remember just before Christmas Tennessee was being described as the worst place in the world for covid yet now they have bars, restaurants etc open with no restrictions at all and plans in place for hundreds of thousands to attend a 4th July concert as if covid had never happened.

I think it's that places like India and Brazil are such shitshows and we no longer have Trump in charge so we focus heavily on what the US are doing. Maybe Biden has also changed things in some areas to be a bit more careful (although restrictions are largely state driven) and the vaccinations will have an effect on deaths. Just not as much as here where we're still erring on the side of caution for now.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

Heard there are covid marshall jobs in some council area with contracts until 2022. If true, why would they be needed after June 21st?

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Heard there are covid marshall jobs in some council area with contracts until 2022. If true, why would they be needed after June 21st?

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Because I don’t think society will be 100% unrestricted after that date.

 

[Sick Boy]

Heard there are covid marshall jobs in some council area with contracts until 2022. If true, why would they be needed after June 21st?

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It's a global pandemic and you'd be naive to think that after 21st June things will be back to normal.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

Because I don’t think society will be 100% unrestricted after that date.

It's a global pandemic and you'd be naive to think that after 21st June things will be back to normal.

Im not saying we will be 100% back to normal after that date, I still expect to wear face coverings, keep a distance etc... But surely after the 21st June where most will have received at least their first jab and the results of the mass gathering pilots will have been successful means we have this under control now using quick turnaround lateral flow tests where necessary?

I don't actually recall seeing any covid marshall, ever. I'm not sure what they even do

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[clint van damme]

Im not saying we will be 100% back to normal after that date, I still expect to wear face coverings, keep a distance etc... But surely after the 21st June where most will have received at least their first jab and the results of the mass gathering pilots will have been successful means we have this under control now using quick turnaround lateral flow tests where necessary?

I don't actually recall seeing any covid marshall, ever. I'm not sure what they even do

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Maybe they'll be for City of culture events.

 

[shmmeee]

Im not saying we will be 100% back to normal after that date, I still expect to wear face coverings, keep a distance etc... But surely after the 21st June where most will have received at least their first jab and the results of the mass gathering pilots will have been successful means we have this under control now using quick turnaround lateral flow tests where necessary?

I don't actually recall seeing any covid marshall, ever. I'm not sure what they even do

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My mate was one for HelloFresh. It’s literally someone who makes sure everyone at a workplace follows the rules.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Councils aren't necessarily going to follow national government in their buildings, either

 

[Sick Boy]

Im not saying we will be 100% back to normal after that date, I still expect to wear face coverings, keep a distance etc... But surely after the 21st June where most will have received at least their first jab and the results of the mass gathering pilots will have been successful means we have this under control now using quick turnaround lateral flow tests where necessary?

I don't actually recall seeing any covid marshall, ever. I'm not sure what they even do

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Borders will be open and it’s a global pandemic - it’s too early to say things will be under control until we’re into 2022.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Im not saying we will be 100% back to normal after that date, I still expect to wear face coverings, keep a distance etc... But surely after the 21st June where most will have received at least their first jab and the results of the mass gathering pilots will have been successful means we have this under control now using quick turnaround lateral flow tests where necessary?

I don't actually recall seeing any covid marshall, ever. I'm not sure what they even do

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I don’t expect to wear a mask and distance when we’re vaccinated, I do perhaps expect continuing checks of vaccination or COVID testing status.

 

[hill83]

Im not saying we will be 100% back to normal after that date, I still expect to wear face coverings, keep a distance etc... But surely after the 21st June where most will have received at least their first jab and the results of the mass gathering pilots will have been successful means we have this under control now using quick turnaround lateral flow tests where necessary?

I don't actually recall seeing any covid marshall, ever. I'm not sure what they even do

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I saw a group of 3 of them on Earlsdon high street last year going into Greggs with clipboards.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Im not saying we will be 100% back to normal after that date, I still expect to wear face coverings, keep a distance etc... But surely after the 21st June where most will have received at least their first jab and the results of the mass gathering pilots will have been successful means we have this under control now using quick turnaround lateral flow tests where necessary?

I don't actually recall seeing any covid marshall, ever. I'm not sure what they even do

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Are they not people that direct people around testing sites etc?

I also imagine it's a zero hours contract so if they're not needed they don't get called in or earn anything.

 

[Saddlebrains]

THIRD jab for ALL over-50s before winter

Early findings from trials have raised hopes in the UK Government that the two approaches can nullify the threat from existing and new variants, it is understood.

www.dailymail.co.uk

If true then thats fantastic

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

THIRD jab for ALL over-50s before winter

Early findings from trials have raised hopes in the UK Government that the two approaches can nullify the threat from existing and new variants, it is understood.

www.dailymail.co.uk

If true then thats fantastic

I’d like the first one...

 

[stupot07]

Not a good sign

World’s Most Vaccinated Nation Activates Curbs as Cases Rise

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[jordan210]

Not a good sign

World’s Most Vaccinated Nation Activates Curbs as Cases Rise

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I think the 59% of Chinese vaccines will be the issue. As they don't appear to work

 

[Saddlebrains]

Not a good sign

World’s Most Vaccinated Nation Activates Curbs as Cases Rise

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Wouldn't worry about that in the slightest, they used that shite Chinese vaccine Sinopharm. Something dreadful like 50% efficacy.


Its if Israel goes back into lockdown that we should panic. They've Pfizered and AZ like we have. But at the moment they have basic normality

 

[jordan210]

Wow - https://assets.publishing.service.g...ransmission_in_hospitality_retail_leisure.pdf

The three studies provided no statistical evidence that personal exercise activities were associated with increased odds of becoming a COVID-19 case.

The four studies provided no statistical evidence that private events were associated with increased odds of becoming a COVID-19 case.

The four studies provided no statistical evidence that public events were associated with increased odds of becoming a COVID-19 case.

The four studies provided no statistical evidence that personal care settings were associated with increased odds of becoming a COVID-19 case.

The four case-control studies provided no statistical evidence that shopping activities were associated with increased odds of becoming a COVID-19 case.

The four case-control studies provided no statistical evidence that working in arts, entertainment or recreation was associated with increased odds of becoming a COVID-19 case.

 

[wingy]

"Coronavirus: Life in UK will 'feel a lot more normal by the summer', says SAGE adviser Neil Ferguson" Life in UK will 'feel a lot more normal by summer', says SAGE expert

 

[LastGarrison]

Coventry’s coronavirus rate lowest in months and no deaths in the past week.

As we open up cases are going to continue but it really is deaths that are the telling factor.

So far so good and this is with people loosening up probably ahead of what the government would like.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

"Coronavirus: Life in UK will 'feel a lot more normal by the summer', says SAGE adviser Neil Ferguson" Life in UK will 'feel a lot more normal by summer', says SAGE expert

‘Professor Lockdown’ hahahahaha

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I think the 59% of Chinese vaccines will be the issue. As they don't appear to work

I find it staggering that a country that enabled such a spread of the virus could then profit from selling a vaccine for it, only for it to basically be a shot of sugar water.

I can't believe some countries have actually fallen for it.

 

[wingy]

Coventry’s coronavirus rate lowest in months and no deaths in the past week.

As we open up cases are going to continue but it really is deaths that are the telling factor.

So far so good and this is with people loosening up probably ahead of what the government would like.

Are the current numbers more relevant/accurate?
Due to the expansion of testing

Think back in early September ons were estimating between 3-4 x the measured case's.
How low would it need to be to track and trace it into submission?

 

[wingy]

Quite staggering.
Poor buggers.


"COVID cases in India accounted for nearly half of worldwide coronavirus infections last week | UK News | Sky News" COVID cases in India accounted for nearly half of worldwide coronavirus infections last week

 

[clint van damme]

Wouldn't worry about that in the slightest, they used that shite Chinese vaccine Sinopharm. Something dreadful like 50% efficacy.


Its if Israel goes back into lockdown that we should panic. They've Pfizered and AZ like we have. But at the moment they have basic normality

Israel just released latest data on Pfizer, 95% efficacy after 2 jabs.
Definitely appears that the issues in the Seychelles are related to the vaccine.

 

[shmmeee]

Looks like the Yank progress is slowing and it’s mostly because they’re politicised the vaccine like the giant dumbasses they are.

Why on Earth are we so desperate to copy their politics?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Looks like the Yank progress is slowing and it’s mostly because they’re politicised the vaccine like the giant dumbasses they are.

Why on Earth are we so desperate to copy their politics?

They don’t understand risk