SkyBlueDom26
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Looks promising? Will we follow suit if the proves successful?
Finally, we also are where we are. We are currently in a situation where people are ignoring government advice; going to pubs, socialising, panic buying etc which I believe will ultimately lead to a lock down. Do I think the government planned or want a lock down, no, but they are probably going to have to use it as a measure
Dont be a dick.
It's pretty certain they covered this up for some time. October/November is not unreasonable as a start date in China (and many probably had it before anyone even realised it wasn't a standard flu type virus).
Looks promising? Will we follow suit if the proves successful?
If I do not come into work (office) I will not get paid, I can not afford to self isolate for 2 weeks or more.
With no official "You must stay at home", there's not much anyone can do.
Maybe its been tested?I don’t get it really as they are very different diseases caused by very different pathogens.
Can you not work from home? What are management saying? Ours have gone from “over my dead body” to “set yourself up at home for months” in a matter of days.
I think that’s a very fair statement to make Steve. A lot of employers just don’t get it and are pressuring people to come into work when they should be isolating and people just generally acting like dicks will be the ultimate reason for a lockdown.Finally, we also are where we are. We are currently in a situation where people are ignoring government advice; going to pubs, socialising, panic buying etc which I believe will ultimately lead to a lock down. Do I think the government planned or want a lock down, no, but they are probably going to have to use it as a measure
Maybe its been tested?
If I do not come into work (office) I will not get paid, I can not afford to self isolate for 2 weeks or more.
With no official "You must stay at home", there's not much anyone can do.
Wasnt aimed at workers mate ! That’s essential and whilst I love a beer and night out with my mates, that’s probably not quite the same
also not aimed at going to shops etc. people need to live
David, I have a rule that I won't engage with a fool and I have given you benefit of the doubt but it's really becoming clear that I am breaking my own rule.Cool, what does that have to do with flights in Europe?
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If it has and it works then fine but I’d be very surprised
Sorry, I meant to say, is their much difference to me being in and around people in town/work, to going to the pub with 10 or so people in there?
fingers crossed then mate if it worksI believe it has along with a few other drugs at the same time, saw something from a medical bod on Twitter yesterday with proper study details but can’t find it now.
I believe it has along with a few other drugs at the same time, saw something from a medical bod on Twitter yesterday with proper study details but can’t find it now.
Interesting, hadn’t realised.
If you want to stop.talki g to a fool you really need to stop doing your impression of that scene from taxi driver.David, I have a rule that I won't engage with a fool and I have given you benefit of the doubt but it's really becoming clear that I am breaking my own rule.
As confirmed in the article I put up. But these people will never admit it.Problem is Steve multiple sources have confirmed that we changed plans.
Wasn’t this, but this is what I found: Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine as Available Weapons to Fight COVID-19 - PubMed
Weirdly a couple of days ago I saw Elon Musk of all people tweet it as a suggestion because he was given it when he had malaria.
Very weird times when Trump and Musk are tweeting sense.
yes it has, on malariaMaybe its been tested?
Well what is it going to be used for corona then? there must be something behind now using it for coronayes it has, on malaria
Your gym doesn’t have mirrors?The gyms quiet. Only 3 of us here. Not even any fanny to look at.
Well what is it going to be used for corona then? there must be something behind now using it for corona
The flatten the curve thing has been confusing. We were never going to do absolutely nothing. From what I can gather, the original plan was to cocoon the vulnerable and hope the rest wouldn’t topple the NHS. Personally I’d have thought even fag packet maths shows that’d destroy the NHS, but regardless it seems the Imperial paper provided some numbers that changed minds to a stronger suppression.
I suspect two or three things at play:
Boris is a liberal and would personally hate to have to have troops on the streets keeping people in their homes. I worry this is still stopping him from taking the steps necessary
Cummings likes “clever” ideas that imply he’s smart and everyone else is stupid which lead to us not going in the obvious direction of suppression.
There’s a Tory mindset about the economy that means that shutting it down is seen as impossible, you see it in this thread. Just incapable of comprehending the scale of the situation and an assumption there must be some way to do it without economic damage. That was naive.
The final fuck up for me has been the communication that’s meant people have genuinely thought herd immunity or let her rip we’re policy and others thinking the current instructions are just friendly advice they don’t have to follow if they don’t want. That’s absolutely criminal in a crisis and for me shows this administration simply isn’t up to the job of running the country. But they’re who we’ve got so I’ll park that one until it’s all over. They still need to sort it out though, communication and trust are absolutely key to their new plan.
Finally, we also are where we are. We are currently in a situation where people are ignoring government advice; going to pubs, socialising, panic buying etc which I believe will ultimately lead to a lock down. Do I think the government planned or want a lock down, no, but they are probably going to have to use it as a measure
So you’re subject zero?Ironically it was me posting the graphs from that site a week ago that started the first argument about graphs.
Some people on twitter are suggesting the softly softly advice is to provoke such behaviour and make it look like the draconian power grab is for the country's own good. The advice from Johnson has been wishy washy at best. He's even got his own dickhead father undermining him.
I think that’s a very fair statement to make Steve. A lot of employers just don’t get it and are pressuring people to come into work when they should be isolating and people just generally acting like dicks will be the ultimate reason for a lockdown.
See you in the premCan I be cryogenically frozen until all this has buggered off?
Yes a total lockdown as soon as China was symptomatic. Ground all flights unless it's for people being repatriated and quarantined. It would have stopped this virus spreading at source. It would have damaged the global economy but people would have been able to be productive to an extent within their own country. Let's face it the economy has been trashed anyway but rather than one hit it's been 1000 lashes.
Well this is worrying... (taken from elsewhere)
Spain numbers today : +2,378 cases and +129 deaths
Spain’s March 12th numbers were 869 new cases and 31 deaths.
Remember they locked down on the equivalent to our Sunday coming up (AM) .
Our numbers today need to be under their March 12th numbers above when announced, and we need to be in lockdown by Saturday at the latest.
Source: Coronavirus Update (Live): 231,203 Cases and 9,390 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer
If not, we will, according to the data trends and the assumption Spain will overtake Italy from now on for total deaths, be well on track to have the most coronavirus deaths on the planet.
We also have 20m more people than Spain. And a population density of 251/sq km to 93/sq km.
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