Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (3 Viewers)

[Deleted member 5849]

Hang on, so a guy gets accosted in a park, the bloke that did it gets caught out and sacked as he filmed it, and people see that as indoctrination?

Sounds like consequences were dealt out and that’s it- why the rush to brush aside what he did? If it wasn’t that bad he wouldn’t have lost his job

tbf, he liked PVA's answer, so not entirely sure he disagrees with it as such...

 

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[SBT]

If the Prime Minister releases a statement condemning your "despicable" behaviour in a video that gets national and international TV coverage, you shouldn't be surprised if you end up losing your job, especially if you're a small-time estate agent.

 

[Marty]

Hang on, so a guy gets accosted in a park, the bloke that did it gets caught out and sacked as he filmed it, and people see that as indoctrination?

Sounds like consequences were dealt out and that’s it- why the rush to brush aside what he did? If it wasn’t that bad he wouldn’t have lost his job

Hang on, I think he's a bit of a prick for doing what he did, but the response stinks of typical virtue signalling condescending behaviour. Like I said, the response is a copy and paste job, we've heard it all before... Bah bah bah covidiot bah bah bah adversely affected bah bah bah papers please.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Hang on, I think he's a bit of a prick for doing what he did, but the response stinks of typical virtue signalling condescending behaviour. Like I said, the response is a copy and paste job, we've heard it all before... Bah bah bah covidiot bah bah bah adversely affected bah bah bah papers please.

Indeed, it should be noted that his boss is also an estate agent

 

[Nick]

What would he be sacked under? Gross misconduct?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

If the Prime Minister releases a statement condemning your "despicable" behaviour in a video that gets national and international TV coverage, you shouldn't be surprised if you end up losing your job, especially if you're a small-time estate agent.

I'd be livid and claiming what right the self-serving entitled oaf has to call my behaviour 'despicable'. People in crystal houses shouldn't thrown stones.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

What would he be sacked under? Gross misconduct?

Probably something along the lines of disrepute or unprofessional behaviour that could look negative for his employers.

 

[robbiekeane]

The beeb been reading this thread I reckon

 

[COV]

Hang on, I think he's a bit of a prick for doing what he did, but the response stinks of typical virtue signalling condescending behaviour. Like I said, the response is a copy and paste job, we've heard it all before... Bah bah bah covidiot bah bah bah adversely affected bah bah bah papers please.

Both sides are just the same, we see it from the left and the right all the time, every day, then people start throwing around the term "virtue signalling" around when its the side you don't like.

Nobody gives a toss about right & wrong any more, only "whose side is he on"

 

[Marty]

Both sides are just the same, we see it from the left and the right all the time, every day, then people start throwing around the term "virtue signalling" around when its the side you don't like.

Nobody gives a toss about right & wrong any more, only "whose side is he on"

I agree, both sides are just as bad as each other.

 

[skybluetony176]

It was more a case that you could literally copy and paste that response from anywhere. It's pure indoctrination.

Not sure you understand what indoctrination is. Joining a mob who shout cancel culture like a form of Tourette’s at any type of behaviour that they think shouldn’t have consequences regardless of how obvious it is that it should, pure indoctrination in action. Physically and verbally attacking someone in the street is not freedom of speech.

noun

1. the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I'm not saying here anyone has the right to confront, that's the word needed here,not accoste assault haress etc.
But these lads did nothing more than attempt a pissed up conga around a stiff professional bloke who found it oppressive, invasive.
Overreaction here for me ,never appeared violence was on the agenda.

How would Mr Whitty know that?

 

[Marty]

Not sure you understand what indoctrination is. Joining a mob who shout cancel culture like a form of Tourette’s at any type of behaviour that they think shouldn’t have consequences regardless of how obvious it is that it should, pure indoctrination in action. Physically and verbally attacking someone in the street is not freedom of speech.

noun

1. the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically

I'm not sure you know what indoctrination is, You're very quick to label those who are displaying concerns or are critical, try to belittle. Almost like you've spent the past year consuming too much time in the indoctrination camps know as main stream media.

 

[chiefdave]

a stiff professional bloke who found it oppressive, invasive.

I mean its not like the blokes father was murdered on the way home from work or anything, oh wait ...

 

[shmmeee]

I'm not sure you know what indoctrination is, You're very quick to label those who are displaying concerns or are critical, try to belittle. Almost like you've spent the past year consuming too much time in the indoctrination camps know as main stream media.

 

[Marty]

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Wondered how long it would take for you to turn up.

 

[shmmeee]

Wondered how long it would take for you to turn up.

My crank alarm went off and I got here as soon as I could.

 

[skybluetony176]

I'm not sure you know what indoctrination is, You're very quick to label those who are displaying concerns or are critical, try to belittle. Almost like you've spent the past year consuming too much time in the indoctrination camps know as main stream media.

It’s pretty clear it’s consequential from his behaviour. He hasn’t been cancelled in any sense of the word. And to accuse people of being indoctrinated by MSM. I’m judging the guy from the video he posted not MSM. I don’t need anyone to point out that he’s behaving like a complete dick and like all dickish behaviour there’s consequences. That’s just life. Maybe he’ll learn his lesson and either not behave that way again or if he is dickish enough to do it again at least not be stupid enough to post it online. Especially if you’re a face of the company he works for.

 

[wingy]

How would Mr Whitty know that?

The same way we meet lairy intoxicated folk around town or Earlsdon high street on Saturday night , from the clip I've seen there was absolutely no malice of aggression involved.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The same way we meet lairy intoxicated folk around town or Earlsdon high street on Saturday night , from the clip I've seen there was absolutely no malice of aggression involved.

Wow ok. He clearly looks like he’s concerned for his safety

 

[PVA]

Yes you can watch the clip, after the event and knowing the outcome, and say there was not intent of violence there.

But you can clearly see the guy is shit scared and if two blokes grab you in a park, knowing that a large group of the population don't like you (wrongly), then I think it's fair to assume he feared for his safety and the two blokes were totally out of order

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

If, like me you had been robbed at knifepoint you may well see things differently. That’s all I’ll say. Nothing bog or clever about their actions other than having the balls to apologise. And nothing woke or cancel culture for them to lose their jobs or what really should have happened been charged with common assault

 

[wingy]

I mean its not like the blokes father was murdered on the way home from work or anything, oh wait ...

I have no idea and that has no bearing in the sense that fragile People meet awkward situations daily .
If Whitty's father suffered that horrible event that is awful, but like all fragile folk, for all kinds of reasons are exposed to unpleasant situations daily.
I wasn't aware so understably neither would the two lads/men.
I think the media language at the outset was over the top wrong,assualt was used by the been ,the guy should not be losing his job.

 

[Deleted member 11652]

If, like me you had been robbed at knifepoint you may well see things differently. That’s all I’ll say. Nothing bog or clever about their actions other than having the balls to apologise. And nothing woke or cancel culture for them to lose their jobs or what really should have happened been charged with common assault

I’ve been mugged by a group of lads and I see it the exact same as Marty does

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I have no idea and that has no bearing in the sense that fragile People meet awkward situations daily .
If Whitty's father suffered that horrible event that is awful, but like all fragile folk, for all kinds of reasons are exposed to unpleasant situations daily.
I wasn't aware so understably neither would the two lads/men.
I think the media language at the outset was over the top wrong,assualt was used by the been ,the guy should not be losing his job.

Just bollox

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I’ve been mugged by a group of lads and I see it the exact same as Marty does

Don’t trust a word you say I’m afraid

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I have no idea and that has no bearing in the sense that fragile People meet awkward situations daily .
If Whitty's father suffered that horrible event that is awful, but like all fragile folk, for all kinds of reasons are exposed to unpleasant situations daily.
I wasn't aware so understably neither would the two lads/men.
I think the media language at the outset was over the top wrong,assualt was used by the been ,the guy should not be losing his job.

It’s clearly common assault

 

[Deleted member 11652]

Don’t trust a word you say I’m afraid

Why would I lie about that it’s not something to be proud of? It’s embarrassing

 

[Grendel]

I mean its not like the blokes father was murdered on the way home from work or anything, oh wait ...

he was murdered by Palestine extremists wasn’t he?

 

[wingy]

Just bollox

No it isn't those guys have been hung out for nothing that doesn't happen regularly on many street's.
Now if that was cleaned up I'm all for it .
Mr Whitty clearly does need minders I think.

 

[wingy]

It’s clearly common assault

I say not .

 

[covmark]

It’s clearly common assault

Haha behave.

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[Sky Blue Pete]

I say not .

Wow really?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Well all 3 of you are completely wrong

Common assault is when a victim is made to feel that force will be used against them. No actual force needs to be applied, just the threat or fear that this may happen. This can also include threatening gestures such as fist shaking. This becomes battery when the actual application of force is involved.12 Nov 2020

The link is from here OUR GUIDE TO COMMON ASSAULT, ABH AND GBH

 

[covmark]

Well all 3 of you are completely wrong

Common assault is when a victim is made to feel that force will be used against them. No actual force needs to be applied, just the threat or fear that this may happen. This can also include threatening gestures such as fist shaking. This becomes battery when the actual application of force is involved.12 Nov 2020

Fuck me. Fist shaking? Have a day off mate.

They were pissed up twats, who spotted a recognisable bloke and wanted to get a few photos. Shouldn't have done it and they're pricks. But lose their job over it? Nah, not for me.
As for assault????

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