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hill83
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Jeeesz
One Hospital Denies Oklahoma Doctor's Story of Ivermectin Overdoses Causing ER Delays for Gunshot Victims
The hospital says it hasn't experienced any care backlog due to patients overdosing on a drug that's been falsely peddled as a covid curewww.rollingstone.com
What are the odds
Evo1883
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The old saying , only in America
skybluetony176
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It’s a tail of Whoa!
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This really is amazing.
Ian1779
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One would imagine as they’ve all been double vaccinated.
Evo1883
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I think it was more to do with the fact the children aren't vaccinated probably triggered that study
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It'll also be more interesting what happens in the coming term, too.
shmmeee
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I'm assuming the government's covid vaccine passports will be extended to include 12-15 year olds once they've overruled the scientists ?
So many issues inbound ..
Don’t think 12 year olds can go abroad or to nightclubs on their own anyway.
shmmeee
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SARS will do that to a country. And a super authoritarian society.
Evo1883
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No , but they can go to football stadia , entertainment venues too
And you're assuming because the adults have been vaccinated they'd all be willing to vaccinate their 12 year olds .. I think you'd be surprised
After all , the experts are saying be cautious, hardly going to get parents pushing their kids through the doors is it , and they certainly won't leave it up to a wank like Boris to decide
It's a no from me
My daughters 12 , il make the decision and it won't be one you will agree with
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shmmeee
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Polling suggests a clear majority of parents would support it:
But as with anything it should be your choice, I’ve never said otherwise despite what you think, I just think government and business can also make requirements because they have freedom too and losing access to that stuff will factor into your decision for you and your children as well as health and risks.
Evo1883
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There's loads of polls on this some ranging from 3 in 4 to 58% .
That was ofcourse before the experts which we are told to believe and rightly so, are saying they don't recommend (changed to be cautious overnight ) kids 12-15 be vaccinated .
Businesses will ofcourse suffer anyway through a covid vaccine passport
let's hope the government compensate themBTW CCFC will be one of them that do , I know of several who will just stop going as they won't get a jab , and the demographic which we want to target to attend are the second lowest in the country for vaccine uptake
Furthermore, if my daughter has no vaccine , will they stop her going ? Then ofcourse I don't go or my dad and we want a refund .. life is that simple
As I said , issues inbound
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clint van damme
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Fair enough.
What annoys me is cunts ignoring evidence from certain agencies about adult vaccination who are now using those same agencies to validate not getting their kids jabbed.
You can't have it both ways bt I totally understand your decision.
Evo1883
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I'm not being awkward , I'd never forgive myself if I made a decision for her and it went wrong .. not doing it , sorry.
The risk to her is so small she's more likely to be struck by lightning more than once I'm sure .
This whole thing is going to get messy
shmmeee
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There's loads of polls on this some ranging from 3 in 4 to 58% .
That was ofcourse before the experts which we are told to believe and rightly so, are saying they don't recommend (changed to be cautious overnight ) kids 12-15 be vaccinated .
Businesses will ofcourse suffer anyway through a covid vaccine passport
BTW CCFC will be one of them that do , I know of several who will just stop going as they won't get a jab , and the demographic which we want to target to attend are the second lowest in the country for vaccine uptake
Furthermore, if my daughter has no vaccine , will they stop her going ? Then ofcourse I don't go or my dad and we want a refund .. life is that simple
That’s a business decision for CCFC to make I’d hope. The proposals I’ve seen are only PL games and over 20k so for the vast majority of City games wouldn’t be mandatory. But if they are they are. And I hope people who are refusing to get the vaccine because they read some nonsense on Facebook reconsider when faced with the prospect of missing out on big games.
clint van damme
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But you've done everything else, fair play.
You're not being a prick
Think I'd do the same in your shoes.
Evo1883
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I'm specifically talking about kids now tbh , I'm listening to the expert and he hasn't really sounded very comfortable with it at all ..
That I have a problem with
shmmeee
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Both choices present very small risks. I get where you’re coming from because psychologically doing nothing doesn’t feel like an action but doing something does but this isn’t a risk vs no risk situation, it’s risk vs risk with a minuscule edge one way assuming your kid has no underlying conditions.
shmmeee
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I agree and hope that of the evidence shows the risk isn’t worth it that’ll be government advice too. Like it was with AZ.
Evo1883
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Well nobody can guarantee their kids have absolutely no underlying problem..
Evo1883
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Believe me I don't wish to argue , and if I'm coming across that way then I apologise ..
I can't let her have this vaccine at the moment .. maybe in year or so when there's more concrete data
shmmeee
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I get it. I haven’t looked at the data enough to decide myself yet TBH. It’s more the vaccine passport/freedom thing I think we disagree on.
Evo1883
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From full fact 397 kids between 12-17 developed myocarditis .. from 8.9 million jabs .
That's 1 in 22,418
the problem with the data is it includes 16 and 17 year olds
I think with children it should be age specific .
Separated every year to see the potential risk from 12 -15 .
clint van damme
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It's a really shitty choice for parents with kids in that age range to have to make, consolation is that either way the chances of anything bad happening are very small.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Your child won’t get ill with COVID in all probability. They will almost certainly get the flu or a cold which will take them off school, no flu jab for them though
That would be around 4 times more than regular occurance from normal infection
Evo1883
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Which is alarming
They shouldn't die or have a serious outcome but my 12yr old grandson is getting all the symptoms, out of breath just from kicking the football for a few minutes, an extremely fit sporty lad.
Evo1883
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We've all got colds ATM, we obviously all thought we had covid lol , 4 tests each over several days , yea ...standard cold
I'm not trying to be alarmist but have said a few times across this thread without knowing what the experts know but do wonder about the blindspot of it mutating to be lethal to children.
I wonder what we would do then and I don't just mean vaccination.
I mean the whole gamut.
Evo1883
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I mean yes , if this was a development I the future then I think that's a different matter entirely