Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (6 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

Well apparently they're not completely useless:

Mask-wearing linked to 53% cut in Covid incidence, global study finds

Researchers said results highlight the need to continue with face coverings, social distancing and handwashing alongside vaccine programmes

www.theguardian.com

Masks obviously work. The idea they don’t is one of the dumber ones to take root during the pandemic.

 

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[Kieranp96]

Well apparently they're not completely useless:

Mask-wearing linked to 53% cut in Covid incidence, global study finds

Researchers said results highlight the need to continue with face coverings, social distancing and handwashing alongside vaccine programmes

www.theguardian.com

Like scotland and wales? Hows it going up there over the past few months?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Like scotland and wales? Hows it going up there over the past few months?

A balanced diet is good for you, therefore the pope is a sexual deviant.

 

[Sick Boy]

Masks obviously work. The idea they don’t is one of the dumber ones to take root during the pandemic.

It's weird that some seem to be so threatened by them - presumably it makes their fear/lack of control over the situation worse....

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Im double jabbed and have been ill 3/4x in the past 3 months, im takong antobody test just out of curiosity (paying for it myself), im eligible for my booster in the uk now and in Hungary where i reside, but i dont want to waste a vaccine when it wont affect me, assuming one of my sicknesses was covid.

Won’t that just show you have antibodies from the vaccines anyway?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Masks obviously work. The idea they don’t is one of the dumber ones to take root during the pandemic.

Yes, though this obsession with coating surfaces in bleach was debunked ages ago yet is still being pushed in most places. Does my head in.

 

[skybluetony176]

Like scotland and wales? Hows it going up there over the past few months?

Compared to what? If mask wearing wasn’t compulsory? It would be worse according to every piece of actual scientific evidence. It’s like saying seatbelts don’t work because people still die or get seriously injured while wearing a seatbelt.

 

[Kieranp96]

Won’t that just show you have antibodies from the vaccines anyway?

Yes but they would be waning if it was vaccine antibodies.

 

[Kieranp96]

Compared to what? If mask wearing wasn’t compulsory? It would be worse according to every piece of actual scientific evidence. It’s like saying seatbelts don’t work because people still die or get seriously injured while wearing a seatbelt.

Im not saying im against mask im just saying they dont work aswell as some people say, and the car analogy is bullshit.

 

[clint van damme]

Yes, though this obsession with coating surfaces in bleach was debunked ages ago yet is still being pushed in most places. Does my head in.

The outbreak amongst staff at the Ricoh testing centre was traced back to surface transmission on a shared appliance in the staff canteen so it's not total bollocks though obviously airborne transmission is the big one.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The outbreak amongst staff at the Ricoh testing centre was traced back to surface transmission on a shared appliance in the staff canteen so it's not total bollocks though obviously airborne transmission is the big one.

I'd like to see more on that outbreak if that's available. Basically any peer reviewed research has failed to grow the virus from surfaces even in lab conditions.

 

[clint van damme]

I'd like to see more on that outbreak if that's available. Basically any peer reviewed research has failed to grow the virus from surfaces even in lab conditions.

Don't know if there's anything online but it was when I lost my job at the start of the year and was doing a bit in a testing centre.
They had an outbreak at the ricoh which they said was from a shared appliance and changed the procedures around cleaning and started removing some appliances from the canteens etc.

 

[robbiekeane]

It's weird that some seem to be so threatened by them - presumably it makes their fear/lack of control over the situation worse....

This 100%.

Ive learnt in this pandemic that people have some really weird fears of not being in control, as well as phobias of needles

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Don't know if there's anything online but it was when I lost my job at the start of the year and was doing a bit in a testing centre.
They had an outbreak at the ricoh which they said was from a shared appliance and changed the procedures around cleaning and started removing some appliances from the canteens etc.

Can't see much online about it really, but the only cases I've seen as confirmed from surfaces arose from people sneezing on the surface and then almost immediate contact with it by someone else. It's ineffective, time consuming to implement and at least in schools means we are generating loads of waste from the alcohol-soaked wipes which themselves carry health warnings.

To all intents and purposes surface transmission is not a thing.

 

[Saddlebrains]

As predicted.

The good news has been ignored on this thread and its still an argument about masks

 

[clint van damme]

As predicted.

The good news has been ignored on this thread and its still an argument about masks

Read my post about 5he Scottish medical officer you clown.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Read my post about 5he Scottish medical officer you clown.

I have done you parsnip, fair play for being the only one not crying over masks being right or wrong

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I was against it previously but am coming round the to idea of mandatory vaccines now.

Why do you think it is a good idea? And what has changed?

 

[Sick Boy]

Why do you think it is a good idea? And what has changed?

Because the anti-vaxx conspiracies are utter shite and impacting wider society.

 

[Ian1779]

As predicted.

The good news has been ignored on this thread and its still an argument about masks

Maybe if the snowflakes just put them on without whinging like little bitches we could get to the good news

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Booked my booster for 30th Dec

I've got mine on the 21st.

My wife just had Covid a few weeks back, around 37 weeks pregnant. Thankfully she was fine other than losing her sense of taste and smell which hasn't totally come back. I guess being double jabbed stopped more severe reactions. Thankfully, neither me nor my son got it.

Defo getting the booster though.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Booked my booster for 30th Dec

I'm currently 29th. If the opportunity comes to move it forward to mid December, I will.

Still avoiding Christmas Eve, though!

 

[Nick]

Not sure I'm going to bother with the booster to be honest, I've had the 2.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Not sure I'm going to bother with the booster to be honest, I've had the 2.

Why have two and then not a booster?

 

[Nick]

Why have two and then not a booster?

It may change but the whole premise was get double jabbed, do your bit etc.

I'm by no means anti vax and think I am being chipped but just don't really see an end to it all. Goalposts are moved every week.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

It may change but the whole premise was get double jabbed, do your bit etc.

I'm by no means anti vax and think I am being chipped but just don't really see an end to it all. Goalposts are moved every week.

Kind of don't disagree but I get a flu jab every year due to my asthma as it wanes over time. Just seems logical and if it stops serious illness if/when I catch it, then it's a no brainer but I get where you're coming from.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Not sure I'm going to bother with the booster to be honest, I've had the 2.

Same here

 

[Sick Boy]

I expect the booster will become mandatory for travel next summer.

 

[Nick]

I expect the booster will become mandatory for travel next summer.

The thing was, the vaccines were supposedly mandatory for things as well. Vaccine Passports to get into football matches etc.

Goalposts moved.

 

[clint van damme]

The thing was, the vaccines were supposedly mandatory for things as well. Vaccine Passports to get into football matches etc.

Goalposts moved.

It's a fluid situation which almost no one alive has lived through before, (certainly not on this scale), so it's unrealistic to not expect 'the goalposts to move' really.

 

[Sick Boy]

The thing was, the vaccines were supposedly mandatory for things as well. Vaccine Passports to get into football matches etc.

Goalposts moved.

Yeah I guess i look at it from an Italian perspective where they’re clamping down on it more and more.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Matt Hancock's pal is on LBC speaking to James O'Brien now

 

[Deleted member 5849]

as well as phobias of needles

If Mrs Wisdom can get her's done (when I ended up in casualty once, I had to divert the nurse to look after her, as she fainted while *I* had a needle pushed into me!!) then anybody can(!)

As an aside, they do like trying to send me to the colourful areas of the city. Remembrance Road or Jardine Crescent eh? Not sure Covid would get to those places, it'd be too scared

 

[clint van damme]

COVID-19: Most Omicron cases are 'mild' and there's no evidence to suggest vaccines may be less effective against the variant, says WHO official

The World Health Organisation has also urged countries to apply "an evidence-informed and risk-based approach" to travel measures, saying blanket bans will not prevent the spread of the new Omicron COVID variant.

www.google.com

 

[Deleted member 5849]

COVID-19: Most Omicron cases are 'mild' and there's no evidence to suggest vaccines may be less effective against the variant, says WHO official

The World Health Organisation has also urged countries to apply "an evidence-informed and risk-based approach" to travel measures, saying blanket bans will not prevent the spread of the new Omicron COVID variant.

www.google.com

It's excellent news in a general sense. Still a small sample size, mind you.

I'm still confused by the rush to get everyone boosted so soon, mind you - even more so if it does turn out that cases end up milder. Even more so as they still haven't revised the booking system to do so, so cramming half the UK into a month and a half period could be... interesting!