Sky Blue Pete
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Bit more nuanced.
He’s saying don’t lie and panic people to make them do things otherwise they may not believe you when you do the same again
Bit more nuanced.Given even with a booster it's likely there will be a breakthrough in a significant percentage, it will hit the old too.
The point of vaccinating/boosting everyone is to slow the spread.
Even if only a very small percentage of young people are affected, it's still going to be potentially a very large number in hospital in a short space of time. That will break the NHS for everyone.
What's your solution here Nick, would you just let it rip?
And mine
Bit more nuanced.
He’s saying don’t lie and panic people to make them do things otherwise they may not believe you when you do the same again
Given even with a booster it's likely there will be a breakthrough in a significant percentage, it will hit the old too.
The point of vaccinating/boosting everyone is to slow the spread.
Even if only a very small percentage of young people are affected, it's still going to be potentially a very large number in hospital in a short space of time. That will break the NHS for everyone.
What's your solution here Nick, would you just let it rip?
Fair enough, if that's what you think is being said. What's the lie that's currently being pushed, would you say?
It is, far less people outside though ..covidThat’s amazing it used to be 6000 a year
I'm very much for the vaccine and health care workers being vaccinated for obvious reasons. That being said, the thought of someone losing their career over it doesn't sit well with me.
Given even with a booster it's likely there will be a breakthrough in a significant percentage, it will hit the old too.
The point of vaccinating/boosting everyone is to slow the spread.
Even if only a very small percentage of young people are affected, it's still going to be potentially a very large number in hospital in a short space of time. That will break the NHS for everyone.
What's your solution here Nick, would you just let it rip?
The % of test coming back positive is going up also, and tbh they reckon this new variant is making 200k new infrctions per day, so i expect to see like 100/200k cases per day in a few weeks time.Would this be because more have been tested? Hence catching more cases?
Would this be because more have been tested? Hence catching more cases?
I agree with pretty much all your posts recently Duffer but I still think there’s too many unknowns to suggest that without restrictions/slowing the spread it will break the nhs. The forecasts at the moment aren’t really worth the paper their written on as we really don’t have much of a clue about omicron other than it’s more transmissible. In the summer forecasters were saying post ‘freedom day’ there would be 100k cases per day and 2-3 times more hospitalisations than actually happened
Younger people may not have had boosters but a majority will hopefully have decent immunity from two jabs (as many would’ve had Pfizer and also jabbed more recently) and also natural immunity...obviously assuming omicron doesn’t swerve both. Then there are suggestions that omicron might be milder and younger people are at far reduced risk, even if totally unvaccinated.
I agree with the precautionary measures but talk about NHS being overwhelmed feels premature. I’m not saying it won’t happen or isn’t at risk of it happening (as I say too many unknowns) but this time last year we had 13k with Covid in hospital in England and currently it’s around 6.5k. Also last year there was far less natural immunity and literally no vaccine immunity to protect from severe illness/ hospitalisation.
80k cases yikes, so the new variant sits outside the lungs thats why its mildee.
Hospitalisations doesn't get released daily. The last update for admissions was on Saturday but already it was up over 10% in a week which can't be a good sign.Just need to hope it doesn’t transmit into severe illness/hospitalisations
New
Wuhan lab leak more likely origin of Covid-19, UK Parliament panel told
A Canadian molecular biologist said a lab origin of Covid-19 is more likely than natural origin at this pointwap.business-standard.com
She's been saying that for ages and has a book out about it. Although in interviews she has phrased it more that we can’t be certain that it did not emerge from the Wuhan Institute of Virology which I think most people would agree with.New
Wuhan lab leak more likely origin of Covid-19, UK Parliament panel told
A Canadian molecular biologist said a lab origin of Covid-19 is more likely than natural origin at this pointwap.business-standard.com
Tell us something we don't know... plenty of red faces on here with this news. Turns out you CAN'T trust the CCP. Who'd have guessed? About time Xinnie the pooh takes responsibility.
Hospitalisations doesn't get released daily. The last update for admissions was on Saturday but already it was up over 10% in a week which can't be a good sign.
New
Wuhan lab leak more likely origin of Covid-19, UK Parliament panel told
A Canadian molecular biologist said a lab origin of Covid-19 is more likely than natural origin at this pointwap.business-standard.com
Their response since the outbreak indicates it was a lab leak (why delay, obstruct and minimise inspection ?!). They should be on the hook for world reparations !!! Disgraceful
Which other countries have paid reparations for starting a pandemic?
It's not a serious suggestion.
There has been a huge lack of transparency but I doubt they give a fuck.
Did the Us pont up for the Spanish flu?
Which other countries have paid reparations for starting a pandemic?
It's not a serious suggestion.
There has been a huge lack of transparency but I doubt they give a fuck.
Which other countries have paid reparations for starting a pandemic?
It's not a serious suggestion.
There has been a huge lack of transparency but I doubt they give a fuck.
I know they won’t. Never going to happen. It’s not the release of virus that I’ve got an issue with, assuming it was accidental. It was the cover up and then the obstruction of the investigation since which may have hampered our global ability to stop/treat the disease.
I agree, nuke the cunts.
Or swine flu?
I don't think the first issue is going to be breaking the NHS. The 10 day isolation for people "if" their symptoms are very mild or even not there is going to break a lot of things first surely? That has to be the first worry.
Then you have things like people who can't afford to not miss work still (same as before). You have people who don't want to miss their Christmas piss up or seeing their families so if they have a sniffle they aren't going to do a test.
IF it turns out that for the vast majority it is just a cold for a day then let it rip.
Data are currently too limited to assess the severity of disease caused by the Omicron VOC in the EU/EEA population with sufficient confidence. However, even if the severity of disease caused by the Omicron VOC is equal to or lower than the severity of the Delta VOC, the increased transmissibility and resulting exponential growth of cases will rapidly outweigh any benefits of a potentially reduced severity.
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