They are, Clint.
The people crashing vaccine centres are lunatics, but equally the ones wanting forced vaccines should also be on lists somewhere. It is wrong.
This pandemic has brought out some really awful behaviours in people all round.
Yeah, I can really imagine a time in the near future with people being dragged off the street into vans. Have a word with yourself.The fuck are you on about? I said there will be a point. There will be judging the way people go on.
Of course people attacking vaccination stations should be dealt with. Absolute wrong uns. They should be locked up instantly, the same as if people are blocking ambulances etc. It's not on.
the comparison wasn't with people wanting forced vaccines, it was with people calling the unvaccinated granny killers.
And to be honest, it's not even comparable with people who want forced vaccines, it would be with people forcibly vaccinating people, which I don't think has happened.
So you can't imagine people being arrested for being unvaccinated?Yeah, I can really imagine a time in the near future with people being dragged off the street into vans. Have a word with yourself.
No I can’t imagine people cheering as mysterious people drag people off the street into vans.So you can't imagine people being arrested for being unvaccinated?
Guess you would have said the same about covid passes and drones looking for people out walking.
You're trying your best to rubbish it by saying mysterious people.No I can’t imagine people cheering as mysterious people drag people off the street into vans.
So who are these people dragging the unvaccinated off the street into vans?You're trying your best to rubbish it by saying mysterious people.
Can you really not see people cheering that somebody not vaccinated is arrested? It's perfectly plausible.
No I can’t imagine people cheering as mysterious people drag people off the street into vans.
Who usually arrests people?So who are these people dragging the unvaccinated off the street into vans?
Aha, in which case I am with you.
However, the people wanting forced jabs is comparable in my eyes. If the government started doing it they would be enabled by many people thinking it is ok. We have seen it on here and I do not agree with it at all. I am however, appalled with those crashing vaccines sites etc. They are twats.
There shouldn´t be a case of picking sides. Just do what is right for you and get on with your lives.
Sorry but it’s the sort of nonsense that gets trotted out by the anti-vaxx brigade.Who usually arrests people?
Sorry but it’s the sort of nonsense that gets trotted out by the anti-vaxx brigade.
Nightingjails.The current estimated population of the UK is 67 million. According to the government dashboard 51.7m have had 1 dose, 47.4 have had 2 doses and 33.5m have had boosters.
What's happening to all these people picked up off the streets and bundled into vans? Even if you take one dose as vaccinated that's nearly 6m people who are eligible for vacciantion that haven't had a single dose, are we building loads of new jails to stick them all in indefinitely until they agree to be vaccinated?
To put that into context the UK prison population is circa 85,000 at any given time. 6 million isn’t remotely a possibility, for that reason alone the locking up the unvaccinated conspiracy theory is complete bollocks.The current estimated population of the UK is 67 million. According to the government dashboard 51.7m have had 1 dose, 47.4 have had 2 doses and 33.5m have had boosters.
What's happening to all these people picked up off the streets and bundled into vans? Even if you take one dose as vaccinated that's nearly 6m people who are eligible for vacciantion that haven't had a single dose, are we building loads of new jails to stick them all in indefinitely until they agree to be vaccinated?
I’ve no doubt there will come a time where all unvaccinated are boarded onto a rocket and fired into the sun. You just wait.
When you see a country like Switzerland treat unvaccinated people differently to vaccinated you have to have a reasonable conversation about what is and what isn’t appropriateThats obviously an exaggeration, but it did go from 'there won't be a two-tier society' to 'lock them all up at home it is their own fault' pretty quickly.
Perfectly entitled not to have the vaccine, to be more transmissible, and more likely to unnecessarily clog up NHS beds because they chose tik tok science, and they should also get the same treatment?So for me no one has the right to force someone else to have a vaccine
Those choosing not to have one are perfectly entitled not to
Choosing is an interesting word that I won’t expand on
I don’t think it’s wrong to accept those truisms and don’t see that changing
If someone is unvaccinated and gets poorly from covid and as a society we should treat them and make them well
Well, this is a depressing read
I think that’s the point I’m trying to make. Drink driving is criminal but there’s a level of alcohol in the blood that’s okPerfectly entitled not to have the vaccine, to be more transmissible, and more likely to unnecessarily clog up NHS beds because they chose tik tok science, and they should also get the same treatment?
It’s madness Pete
Yeah the ICU in the local hospital here is full of unvaccinated covid patients.Perfectly entitled not to have the vaccine, to be more transmissible, and more likely to unnecessarily clog up NHS beds because they chose tik tok science, and they should also get the same treatment?
It’s madness Pete
…let’s not forget the attempted ongoing acts of violence and intimidation and talk of hanging doctors and nurses too.i feel like I should have the right to drink ten pints of beer and drive. That’s my choice and it’s unfair to take it away from me
Yeah the ICU in the local hospital here is full of unvaccinated covid patients.
Perfectly entitled not to have the vaccine, to be more transmissible, and more likely to unnecessarily clog up NHS beds because they chose tik tok science, and they should also get the same treatment?
It’s madness Pete
OK, so what about Obese people? At what point do they get refused treatment and categorised for clogging up the NHS because they chose to keep eating and choosing not to exercise etc.
There's an obsession with "clogging up beds" but how many are obese and how much could be prevented if they weren't?
Will that really get mentioned much?
Where does it end?
OK, so what about Obese people? At what point do they get refused treatment and categorised for clogging up the NHS because they chose to keep eating and choosing not to exercise etc.
There's an obsession with "clogging up beds" but how many are obese and how much could be prevented if they weren't?
Will that really get mentioned much?
Where does it end?
Fucks sake, how many times, obesity isn't contagious. We're not seeing thousands of people become obese over night. And obese people do get refused certain treatments if they don't lose certain amount of weight first.
OK, so what about Obese people? At what point do they get refused treatment and categorised for clogging up the NHS because they chose to keep eating and choosing not to exercise etc.
There's an obsession with "clogging up beds" but how many are obese and how much could be prevented if they weren't?
Will that really get mentioned much?
Where does it end?
…let’s not forget the attempted ongoing acts of violence and intimidation and talk of hanging doctors and nurses too.
Impossible Pandora box to openSame here by all accounts Sick Boy (I heard 80-90%+). I think it should be made clear that vaccinated and/or other non Covid patients will have to take priority with ICU beds. It’s each to their own if people want to take the vaccine or not but everyone knows they are at higher risk of severe illness if they don’t, so these people* have got to accept if ICUs are full/filling up they have to wait in line. Sounds brutal but the fairest solution
If they aren’t worried about Covid most/all should be happy to accept this
*unless they cant for medical reasons
Obesity is a much more complicated than taking scientific advice of Right Said Fred over actual scientists.I didn't say it was contagious. However if it's about clogging up the NHS and COVID then you are way more likely to be doing that if you are obese.
That's the thing, people go on about the strain on the NHS but if you mention obesity it's "but that isn't contagious". No, it isn't but if you are obese and catch something that is (not just COVID) then you are much more likely to be hospitalised / seriously ill from it compared to somebody who isn't obese.
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