clint van damme
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I'm not intersted if he threatens Tom or not. Nothing to do with me.
I haven't seen it myself though I'm not saying it never happened
Because he threatened Tom with violence and as he’s supposed to be left wing you ignore his threats of violence?
You're just a bit precious about him aren't you. Anyway we're going in circles, I have little interest in this Labour Party support thread anymore.
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I'll post when I want and will drop off when i want. You getting angry and insulting me won't dictate that.Well don't post on it then you cretin
This has been ignored to death already today.
He'd be banned if he wasn't part of the clique.Because he threatened Tom with violence and as he’s supposed to be left wing you ignore his threats of violence?
tbf, I've never really thought of Nick as a lefty!He'd be banned if he wasn't part of the clique.
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I'll post when I want and will drop off when i want. You getting angry and insulting me won't dictate that.
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He'd be banned if he wasn't part of the clique.
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tbf, I've never really thought of Nick as a lefty!
It's funny because you seem very angry, and no I have very little interest in it but you were still chatting at me, so I responded. If that's ok?Ok. So you're 'little interest in this Labour thread any more' diatribe was just more of your look at me bollocks. Noted.
And trust me, I don't get angry at you. You're posts lack the neccessary substance to make me angry.
It's funny because you seem very angry, and no I have very little interest in it but you were still chatting at me, so I responded. If that's ok?
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I don't hate anyone. Not even idiotic people like yourself. I just feel pity for you.You’ve been droning on for years how you are a labour man who hates Blair and Brown and wants someone left wing to follow. Then you don’t vote Corbyn as he’s left wing. Your first name is really Oxy isn’t it and your surname is very apt
Apologies, haven't read much of the thread today.
Not surprising though.
They literally cannot do any wrong in the eyes of some, pathetic.
I don't hate anyone. Not even idiotic people like yourself. I just feel pity for you.
My dislike of Bliar and Brown for going to war on a lie and being more like Tories are well known. They did many good things but also caused a lot of harm like the Tories always do. And even you know this.
Corbyn? Do you think he did well then?
But well done. You got the attention you crave.
According to twitter Boris spent part of the day walking the grounds at Chequers, its a shame they clearly have no computers, cameras or WiFi and so he’s totally unable to speak to the country.
I don’t see any way at this stage that people can’t see he’s hiding. Biggest indictment though is that I don’t see too many people missing him.
what happened to Cummings, did he come down with it in the end as well?
tbf, I'm game for a bit of that. I may be rather differently aligned to Steve politically, but there are times when I have a reasonably good day, and can be guaranteed that this thread is the ideal thing to puncture any positivity and make me feeling the lowest of the low! coventrian shopuldn't be banned just because he offers some righty bigoty relief from it all!Its rally round the flag effect. Aside from a few exceptions most leaders have had a poll boost, people don’t want to think someone shit is in charge during a crisis.
I don't hate anyone. Not even idiotic people like yourself. I just feel pity for you.
My dislike of Bliar and Brown for going to war on a lie and being more like Tories are well known. They did many good things but also caused a lot of harm like the Tories always do. And even you know this.
Corbyn? Do you think he did well then?
But well done. You got the attention you crave.
Local elections. When did you last vote Labour?When did you actually last vote labour then?
Local elections. When did you last vote Labour?
tbf, I'm game for a bit of that. I may be rather differently aligned to Steve politically, but there are times when I have a reasonably good day, and can be guaranteed that this thread is the ideal thing to puncture any positivity and make me feeling the lowest of the low! coventrian shopuldn't be banned just because he offers some righty bigoty relief from it all!
(This also, incidentally, shows why it would be folly for Starmer to go after the government completely at this present stage. There'll be time enough for inquests later, but nobody wants to be the Banquo at the banquet)
If you ever honestly answered a question from me I would be bothered to answer you. But you never do. So I can't be bothered to answer you when all I will get back is plenty of bullshit from you.I mean in general elections - I never have
Attlee won by making sure he was in the same cabinet as Churchill.The Conservatives know how to win elections, and they’d be going in for the kill right now if it was Labour in charge, exactly as any opposition with intentions to take over should be doing. In 5 years nobody will remember that they kept quiet during this crisis, but they would remember if Labour were currently pointing out all the disasters and asking “where is the PM?”
If you ever honestly answered a question from me I would be bothered to answer you. But you never do. So I can't be bothered to answer you when all I will get back is plenty of bullshit from you.
Will answer just about anyone else though.
This thread is as bizarre as ever I see ! (Hence my recent avoidance)
If Johnson was doing more people (opponents) would say he can’t have been ill enough for hospital/intensive care and was faking it, he’s recovering/recuperating and he’s hiding and should be back at work ?!! Go figure.
There have no doubt been some major government issues/failings in particular the difficulty in securing and distributing vast quantities of PPE but some of the rest of the stuff is way over the top.
However, this thread changed from including reasonably interesting and informative exchanges with genuine debating of good and bad elements of response (with a recognition of the challenges faced by countries around the world) to just toxic ranting. From what I can see there are are handful of countries who have handled this well (South Korea, Germany, Australia and NZ spring to mind) but the list of others struggling in various ways are endless. Not just Italy, Spain, USA, and France but look at the deaths per capita of Belgium, Holland etc. Even japan, with Tokyo hospitals now overflowing and turning patients away and their case numbers appear relatively low ? The world as a whole was underprepared and this nightmare is damaging everyone and even if certain countries might not have been as negatively impacted to date, what’s to say they won’t be in the coming months with potential second and third waves ?!
Ive said it before and I’ll say it again the constant negativity is just unhealthy
ps some positive takeaways on the house...
NHS England recorded deaths per day have been failing for over a week (800 to around 550 by the looks of things)
Hospital admissions are down from 20k a few days ago to around 17k and we are yet to breach ICU capacities (one of the major concerns going into this)
We will hopefully manage to have got through this with less stringent restrictions than many other European countries (which will have had significant but unquantifiable benefits for many)
IF (still an IF) the furlough scheme is operational next week and payrolls can be processed end of this month or early next potentially hundreds of thousands of jobs could be saved and we’ll be in decent position to come out of this once lockdown restrictions/measures are reduced
Things aren’t great and there’s still a long way to go. I’ve got no doubt beads will roll (senior people from PHE and probably Hancock) but for the time being try to at least look at the situation objectively with a tinge of positivity now and then (that’s to everyone, not just you ROS !)
Rant over - have a good evening all and stay safe
Attlee won by making sure he was in the same cabinet as Churchill.
We still live in a world where to openly rebel against the leader at a time of national crisis would work negatively against the opposition among the people as a whole. It'd be a disaster for Starmer.I think you would have to agree that we live in a very, very different world now.
So can you explain what the use will be when there will be no reply. A few more days in a 5 year period won't make any difference.The Conservatives know how to win elections, and they’d be going in for the kill right now if it was Labour in charge, exactly as any opposition with intentions to take over should be doing. In 5 years nobody will remember that they kept quiet during this crisis, but they would remember if Labour were currently pointing out all the disasters and asking “where is the PM?”
tbf, I'm game for a bit of that. I may be rather differently aligned to Steve politically, but there are times when I have a reasonably good day, and can be guaranteed that this thread is the ideal thing to puncture any positivity and make me feeling the lowest of the low! coventrian shopuldn't be banned just because he offers some righty bigoty relief from it all!
(This also, incidentally, shows why it would be folly for Starmer to go after the government completely at this present stage. There'll be time enough for inquests later, but nobody wants to be the Banquo at the banquet)
The Conservatives know how to win elections, and they’d be going in for the kill right now if it was Labour in charge, exactly as any opposition with intentions to take over should be doing. In 5 years nobody will remember that they kept quiet during this crisis, but they would remember if Labour were currently pointing out all the disasters and asking “where is the PM?”
if you want to be seen as the party of leadership, show some strength ffs
I am looking at it objectively and what I see is a hiding PM, health workers about to be dressed in bin bags & gardening clothes, lies about testing & PPE, a health minister utterly out of his depth- the list is endless. I see no benefit whatsoever in pretending everything is superb, and I also note the bog-standard response of “yeah but look at them!”, bit pathetic really.
Being positive is a state of mind, it is not telling everyone lies that a pile of shit is actually a gold medal.
Questions about the virus should be OK but not personal attacks. No harm in PPE questions or what the end game is as people want to know. This includes Tory voters.We still live in a world where to openly rebel against the leader at a time of national crisis would work negatively against the opposition among the people as a whole. It'd be a disaster for Starmer.
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