Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (136 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

Oh look, turns out “the scientists” we’ve been listening to includes Dominic Cummings. But yeah, it’s everyone else who is politicising the crisis.

Revealed: Cummings is on secret scientific advisory group for Covid-19 | Coronavirus outbreak | The Guardian

 

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[clint van damme]

Oh look, turns out “the scientists” we’ve been listening to includes Dominic Cummings. But yeah, it’s everyone else who is politicising the crisis.

Revealed: Cummings is on secret scientific advisory group for Covid-19 | Coronavirus outbreak | The Guardian

'list leaked to the Guardian'.That was handy. I think Johnson may have a problem.

 

[skybluetony176]

Oh look, turns out “the scientists” we’ve been listening to includes Dominic Cummings. But yeah, it’s everyone else who is politicising the crisis.

Revealed: Cummings is on secret scientific advisory group for Covid-19 | Coronavirus outbreak | The Guardian

Oh come on. Every scientific advisory group needs someone with a modern history degree. Why do you hate England do much.

 

[Astute]

From the 4th May things will start to reopen gradulally, so any hint that things are going badly and the restrictions will return. We are able to travel unrestricted within our own regions' from the 4th, which means that a weekend at the in-laws has already been planned....

Enjoy. They will have plenty of lockdown stories for you to enjoy

 

[Astute]

We are still fully open, even for the non essential work streams. Lots of other non essential business/production are remaining open.
Where do you work?

I make bog rolls for a living. We also make Kleenex here.

My job is very important because if we didn't work nobody would be able to stockpile five years worth of bog rolls.....

 

[Grendel]

Many companies seem to be starting up production in May

 

[The coventrian]

Many companies seem to be starting up production in May

That will come as a disappointment to some on here who seem to be revelling in this mess.

 

[shmmeee]

That will come as a disappointment to some on here who seem to be revelling in this mess.

Still making up people to be angry about?

It’s a hobby I guess.

 

[Grendel]

That will come as a disappointment to some on here who seem to be revelling in this mess.

Even fast food outlets all likely to be back by May

 

[Ian1779]

That will come as a disappointment to some on here who seem to be revelling in this mess.

Thank God for Brexit eh?

 

[skybluetony176]

Yet to stop working myself aside from 2 weeks self isolating due to one of the kids showing symptoms. I think this has been pretty common for smaller manufacturing companies where social distancing measures are feasible. Certainly in my experience.

 

[Ian1779]

Even fast food outlets all likely to be back by May

That would actually make sense - McDonalds could go straight away in drive-thru mode for example.

 

[skybluetony176]

That will come as a disappointment to some on here who seem to be revelling in this mess.

I think arms manufacturers have been working so don’t worry there’s still plenty of bullets to drown migrants.

 

[The coventrian]

I didn't take long for the crybaby left to start ranting.

 

[The coventrian]

Thank God for Brexit eh?

I wouldn't know as I didn't vote for Brexit but keep peddling your lies.

 

[Ian1779]

I didn't take long for the crybaby to start ranting.

You’re right.... what time did you log in again?

 

[skybluetony176]

I didn't take long for the crybaby left to start ranting.

Ironically it was you who started the ranting about imaginary ranting.

 

[Sick Boy]

I didn't take long for the crybaby left to start ranting.

The only one ranting away is you.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

The only one ranting away is you.

Tbf, that's what he said

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Even fast food outlets all likely to be back by May

Good news for Kasta

 

[Grendel]

Good news for Kasta

He can do his own 3 peaks challenge - Burger King, McDonald’s and KFC in one car trip

 

[Grendel]

That will come as a disappointment to some on here who seem to be revelling in this mess.

Where are the F Pace and E Pace built?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He can do his own 3 peaks challenge - Burger King, McDonald’s and KFC in one car trip

Only succeeds if he beats the pizza man back to his house

 

[David O'Day]

I didn't take long for the crybaby left to start ranting.

Get help

Seriously get help

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[chiefdave]

BBC reporting that there's no evidence to suggest you can't get it multiple times. Not good news.

Coronavirus updates: 'No evidence' for immunity after recovery - BBC News

 

[skybluetony176]

BBC reporting that there's no evidence to suggest you can't get it multiple times. Not good news.

Coronavirus updates: 'No evidence' for immunity after recovery - BBC News

Surely makes developing a vaccine more difficult also. Like you say, bad news.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Surely makes developing a vaccine more difficult also. Like you say, bad news.

If this is correct then we’re banking on anti viral drugs coming through

 

[tisza]

Surely makes developing a vaccine more difficult also. Like you say, bad news.

The way it mutates so quickly makes finding a long-term effective vaccine seem very difficult atm.
Same reason as the "normal" flu vaccine varies from year to year and people are advised to have a new jab each year

 

[CCFCSteve]

Surely makes developing a vaccine more difficult also. Like you say, bad news.

Yeah, that’s my understanding as well (I heard witty mention it early doors)....potentially awful news if assessment true/accurate

Fingers crossed its wrong and a majority will be immune, if not, as BSB says, there will be an even greater focus/reliance on managing the virus better (which I’m pretty sure scientists will make decent progress on in the coming weeks and months....until then stock up on domestos !)

 

[skybluetony176]

Yeah, that’s my understanding as well (I heard witty mention it early doors)....potentially awful news if assessment true/accurate

Fingers crossed its wrong and a majority will be immune, if not, as BSB says, there will be an even greater focus/reliance on managing the virus better (which I’m pretty sure scientists will make decent progress on in the coming weeks and months....until then stock up on domestos !)

There was an interesting interview on news night the other day with one of the growing number of Swedish scientists who are saying that the Swedish government has got it wrong. Basically they’re saying that they’ve got it wrong for the very reason you point out, managing the virus through treatment rather than cure. The train of thought being that if you can delay people getting it if only for two weeks the simple fact is that they will have a better chance of survival than they would if they’d caught it 2 weeks earlier because there’s a further 2 weeks knowledge on dealing and managing with the virus in infected people.

 

[skybluetony176]

The way it mutates so quickly makes finding a long-term effective vaccine seem very difficult atm.
Same reason as the "normal" flu vaccine varies from year to year and people are advised to have a new jab each year

I don’t think it’s purely mutation as antibodies do die of over a period of time but mutation certainly is a factor. The flu jab is always based on the previous seasons strain.This virus does seem more resilient than your average flu virus though and it’s ability to mutate quickly I would think is part of that.

 

[CCFCSteve]

There was an interesting interview on news night the other day with one of the growing number of Swedish scientists who are saying that the Swedish government has got it wrong. Basically they’re saying that they’ve got it wrong for the very reason you point out, managing the virus through treatment rather than cure. The train of thought being that if you can delay people getting it if only for two weeks the simple fact is that they will have a better chance of survival than they would if they’d caught it 2 weeks earlier because there’s a further 2 weeks knowledge on dealing and managing with the virus in infected people.

That’s a good/fair point. It’s even more relevant if you get don’t immunity through contagion. I suppose it’s one to see how it plays out.

 

[shmmeee]

I don’t think it’s purely mutation as antibodies do die of over a period of time but mutation certainly is a factor. The flu jab is always based on the previous seasons strain.This virus does seem more resilient than your average flu virus though and it’s ability to mutate quickly I would think is part of that.

My understanding was the flu jab was the top three or so predicted strains for that year. Could be wrong though.

 

[Sick Boy]

Across the world, face masks are becoming mandatory. Why not in the UK? | Babak Javid

 

[chiefdave]

More details of SAGE coming out and its not looking good. Government claiming Cummings and Warner were observers. Ignoring that if they should be attending in that capacity is up for debate other present at the meeting are disputing it and saying they were active participants. That's bad enough but its also being reported the chief scientific advisers from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland were only allowed to observe and not participate.

I know some people were criticising 'lefties' for questioning the follow the science line when our science seemed to differ from every other country but even they must admit this is worrying.