SkyBlueDom26
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Yeah it isn’t good news but it will be a case of trial and error, can’t stay locked away all year this virus is here to stay and we’ve got to adapt to living with it at some point
Yeah it isn’t good news but it will be a case of trial and error, can’t stay locked away all year this virus is here to stay and we’ve got to adapt to living with it at some pointGermany on verge of reintroducing lock down measures as cases start to rise again.
Behind a pay wall in the Times but this is what I could see!
"Germany
The country may be compelled to bring back elements of its lockdown amid signs that cases are on the point of starting to grow again.
The reproduction rate, which measures how many people the average Covid-19 patient can be expected to infect, has risen back to one, according to the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), a government health agency. A value higher than one suggests that the number of new cases will rise. Angela Merkel has warned that a sustained rate of 1.2 would exhaust intensive care capacity in hospitals as early as July.
The development is likely to exacerbate divisions over the country’s coronavirus strategy. Over the past week Germany’s 16 states have begun to reopen shops, schools, zoos and, in one case,"
Not good news.
That's down to the individual.I'll back them on that at the moment. As per the WHO there is not much evidence to back up the usage of them as the benefits could be outweighed by people not using them correctly and increasing the risk. You see so many people with them pulled down or to one side. Also lots of people keep touching them or taking them or butting them down.
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Hancock says care home deaths are in line with yearly averages!!!!!???
What’s he smoking?
Unless he means care home deaths at this point are in line with a whole year.
Which is a rather shitty way of spinning it.
Is there anyone left in the country who can just tell it like it is rather than manipulating things?
It takes courage to admit that things aren't good when they aren't. He and a good number of his colleagues don't have it.
Fucked it mate
Actually feel this is a govt scared of the people and unpopularity. Unwilling to make strong decisions that are unpopular.You gotta feel for them on some level. They wanted five years of culture wars and solving every problem by waving a little Union Jack and riling the idiots up about the war. They were never intended to be an actual government in charge of serious things.
Actually feel this is a govt scared of the people and unpopularity. Unwilling to make srrong decisions that are unpopular
Kinda goes with the territory of being populist i guess.
It wasn’t even populist it was just a charlatan holding pints in a fridge. This is why the left has to find a way to win
Kinda goes with the territory of being populist i guess.
they'll get away with it. The majority of the public have no appetite for holding them to account. It's quite incredible.
Raise a pint for the NHS
You can guarantee that when the pubs reopen there will be a lot of
"I am an NHS worker, I am in Wetherspoons at table 15, send me drinks".
It was. It’s was the “hang the pedos, kick out the pakis, and fund the NHS” Party. That’s always been the U.K. populist position.
Fund the NHS and promise to be tough on crime and immigration and you’ll get elected more often than not here.
The lefts way to win is to stop being so squeamish about crime, benefit fraud and reducing immigration and stop looking like you hate the country. It’s not rocket science but we are too good for it.
The lefts way to address crime and immigration is too try and look at the root causes behind the problem... the populist option is blame the foreigner without ever making any headway to fixing it.
We know which way wins however.
“Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime”. Perfect messaging.
Yet it means nothing, just a sound bite of words with literally no substance, bit like everything that Boris says.
Out Blaired the Blair’s.
It’s not though is it?
Labour focused on reducing poverty and improving access to education (causes of crime) while also bringing in stuff like ASBOs (tough on crime).
You just don’t like Blair.
You’re right I don’t like Blair.
He did do those things - he was massively helped by begging given a media platform to articulate the vision, show how these could and would work.
The ‘left’ don’t have a platform like that any more to articulate the vision and ideas (did they really ever is maybe another debate)
How do you combat that?
Did a porter shag your missus once or something?
Even Johnson wouldn't use this as an excuse to miss another PMQs would he?Raab back in charge, Boris is probably off on paternity leave now!
You can guarantee that when the pubs reopen there will be a lot of
"I am an NHS worker, I am in Wetherspoons at table 15, send me drinks".
He'll be off for 6 monthsEven Johnson wouldn't use this as an excuse to miss another PMQs would he?
You start by not refusing to talk to them, being arsey when you do talk to them, rant on and on about how their owners are evil and you’ll bankrupt them given half a chance.
Then you continue by being a professional outfit that is across its brief and getting lines out on time.
Only then do you get to whine about media bias.
The left were a massive disappointment the last five years. They were incompetent, lazy, conspiracy riddled. We don’t get to blame the media bias or anything else until we get our own house in order.
Then we need to be positive. Like the country and it’s people. Listen to their concerns and explain how we will solve them in simple clear messages about policy.
None of this is rocket science but we refuse to do it. It’s childish: “wearing a suit is Tory” “having a media strategy is Tory” “listening to voters and trying to win a majority is Tory”.
I’ll let you in on a secret: the media pander to the public, not the other way around. Murdoch backs winners because he sees which way the wind is blowing not because he’s an all powerful mastermind. When the left talk about “pandering to the right wing media” what they really mean is “pandering to the British public”. You may not agree with a majority of voters, I certainly don’t, but you’ve got to accept that in a democracy you need their support.
You start by not refusing to talk to them, being arsey when you do talk to them, rant on and on about how their owners are evil and you’ll bankrupt them given half a chance.
Then you continue by being a professional outfit that is across its brief and getting lines out on time.
Only then do you get to whine about media bias.
The left were a massive disappointment the last five years. They were incompetent, lazy, conspiracy riddled. We don’t get to blame the media bias or anything else until we get our own house in order.
Then we need to be positive. Like the country and it’s people. Listen to their concerns and explain how we will solve them in simple clear messages about policy.
None of this is rocket science but we refuse to do it. It’s childish: “wearing a suit is Tory” “having a media strategy is Tory” “listening to voters and trying to win a majority is Tory”.
I’ll let you in on a secret: the media pander to the public, not the other way around. Murdoch backs winners because he sees which way the wind is blowing not because he’s an all powerful mastermind. When the left talk about “pandering to the right wing media” what they really mean is “pandering to the British public”. You may not agree with a majority of voters, I certainly don’t, but you’ve got to accept that in a democracy you need their support.
Let’s say you’re right (and i can’t find much in there to disagree with) then why didn’t the left re-take control in 2015? They did these things you have said... but they went even further behind than in 2010
Why? He was just taken apart by the mediaEd Miliband was an idiot
I think it’s safe to say we’ve fucked up the first wave monumentally. Will all come down to second wave and beyond now.
Noticed this below it as well:
But he followed the ‘grown ups in charge’ roadmap.... he should have romped to victory.Ed Miliband was an idiot
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