Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (4 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

They don't need extending forever. Might be needed for a couple of years or more though. But it is sure going to be a shit roller coaster ride.

Hope we can still make Big Ben Bong for Brexit

 

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[David O'Day]

If the track and trace app isn't centralised it is of no value in helping the government with their track, trace and testing.

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[clint van damme]

Not surprising when I think 8 of the 18 contracts were given to the Vote Leave data analysts, the Cambridge Analytica crew. You'd need to be a bit naive to download that and not expect to have your data used for nefarious means. And funnily enough its very similar to the one they tried to roll out in USA where it sneakily asked for your permission to access all data on your phone, forever.

spot on. I've seen whose involved with this app, they can fuck off if they think I'll be downloading it.

 

[Astute]

Hope we can still make Big Ben Bong for Brexit

Why is that?

 

[Sick Boy]

Why is that?

He wants to forget it by getting stoned?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Why is that?

It will bring the nation together as we all raise our middle fingers towards Europe

 

[shmmeee]

If the track and trace app isn't centralised it is of no value in helping the government with their track, trace and testing.

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Rubbish. The government don’t even say that, they say they need the centralised data for NHS planning not track and trace. Most other countries are using the Apple/Google decentralised system which as the article explains is more likely to work as well as being better for privacy.

There’s no need to store data centrally to implement contact tracing.

 

[Astute]

He wants to forget it by getting stoned?

Sounds like a good idea.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Hope we can still make Big Ben Bong for Brexit

Where did Mark Francois go in amongst all this? I was expecting to see him on TV trashing ventilators because they were made in Germany or something

 

[Astute]

It will bring the nation together as we all raise our middle fingers towards Europe

You can di as you wish. I won't be joining you. Will be living there myself in less than 3 years. I will happily send you my middle finger from France.

 

[clint van damme]

Where did Mark Francois go in amongst all this? I was expecting to see him on TV trashing ventilators because they were made in Germany or something

on a raft to China, bayonet at the ready.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Where did Mark Francois go in amongst all this? I was expecting to see him on TV trashing ventilators because they were made in Germany or something

He’s on this forum all day definitely acting more maturely than this reprobate

 

[David O'Day]

Rubbish. The government don’t even say that, they say they need the centralised data for NHS planning not track and trace. Most other countries are using the Apple/Google decentralised system which as the article explains is more likely to work as well as being better for privacy.

There’s no need to store data centrally to implement contact tracing.

NHS planning is the same thing.

Still if there's a conspiracy theory out there then someone will jump on it. You're never alone in the internet


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[Brighton Sky Blue]

You can di as you wish. I won't be joining you. Will be living there myself in less than 3 years. I will happily send you my middle finger from France.

I was being facetious dude

 

[rondog1973]

Greece might get the Elgin marbles back, Egypt might get all their stuff back from all the British museums that was stolen from Egypt. The list of pilfered goods sat in British museums is endless.

Was on an excursion bus in Turkey visiting Ephesus. As we stopped by the site of the Temple of Artemis, one of the seven ancient wonders, we disembarked. The site now consists of just a free standing column, cobbled together from the remaining rubble set amongst the Marshes. The guide gave a brief explanation of the history of the site, and said if we'd like to see more of it, then head home as most of it resided in the British museum...

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

None of the above, just pointing out facts. You may not like it but you need to face up to it. We are not the innocent bystanders that some people would like to make out we are.

You know- I don't get why this is not obvious- but it is very easily possible to be very proud of this country for many things, and also be aware that other things we did were evil & murderous. It doesn't have to be all one of the other, you can have both. Whether on balance we have been a force for good is not up to me to decide- I think so personally, but that doesn't mean I'm going to just pretend other things never happened which caused death & poverty all over the planet, up to you if thats the way you want to act.

Pointing out the same facts on a regular basis. Consistently calling out our dirty deeds of the past. We all know it. So do the Spanish, Portuguese, french, Germans , Japanese, etc etc. of their respective nations. But what is the point of you keep doing this over and over again ?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Pointing out the same facts on a regular basis. Consistently calling out our dirty deeds of the past. We all know it. So do the Spanish, Portuguese, french, Germans , Japanese, etc etc. of their respective nations. But what is the point of you keep doing this over and over again ?

When people start saying we should boycott China, talk bollocks about suing for reparations and 'making them pay', some perspective badly needs to be applied, as uncomfortable as that might be for you.

 

[Grendel]

When people start saying we should boycott China, talk bollocks about suing for reparations and 'making them pay', some perspective badly needs to be applied, as uncomfortable as that might be for you.

How ironic given your total lack of perspective

 

[shmmeee]

NHS planning is the same thing.

Still if there's a conspiracy theory out there then someone will jump on it. You're never alone in the internet


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No it’s not? How are you consistently this wrong?

NHS planning is about knowing where outbreaks are occurring, track and trace is about informing people who have been in contact with potential cases.

As the article states other countries are using the Apple/Google solution for track and trace and it works for that better than our system.

No one has mentioned a conspiracy theory, just standard software engineering. Operating system restrictions and battery life aren’t a conspiracy you loon.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

How ironic given your total lack of perspective

lol, it was only a matter of time. Any credibility you had on this topic was shot to pieces several weeks ago- "yes but would you rather live in Italy?", "yes but have you even been to South Korea?", (not forgetting the legendary comments about Chinese slaves with special infecting powers & Russian soldiers on the prowl) hyping up the "experts" and herd immunity and saying that we had done as well as any other western country- strangely you've gone quiet on all of those points- wisely I guess now its clear that all of it was gibberish. Your input on the subject reads like an exhibition on how to misread, misjudge and let nationalism blind you to the searingly obvious, and the South Korea/ Italy remarks will follow you around for a long time, filed neatly alongside "Taxi for Robins" and "Get fucking Hiwula on".

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

When people start saying we should boycott China, talk bollocks about suing for reparations and 'making them pay', some perspective badly needs to be applied, as uncomfortable as that might be for you.

Not commented on China at all. You're pedalling the same I'm holier than thou nonsense that you do on the EU in out thread. . Here you are giving us the same rhetoric yet again. It's incredibly boring and predictable. Shall I bump the EU thread for you so you can spout the same line on there again ?

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Shall I bump the EU thread

NO. NO NO NO.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Not commented on China at all. You're pedalling the same I'm holier than thou nonsense that you do on the EU in out thread. . Here you are giving us the same rhetoric yet again. It's incredibly boring and predictable. Shall I bump the EU thread for you so you can spout the same line on there again ?

I don't give two shits what you do.

 

[Grendel]

lol, it was only a matter of time. Any credibility you had on this topic was shot to pieces several weeks ago- "yes but would you rather live in Italy?", "yes but have you even been to South Korea?", (not forgetting the legendary comments about Chinese slaves with special infecting powers & Russian soldiers on the prowl) hyping up the "experts" and herd immunity and saying that we had done as well as any other western country- strangely you've gone quiet on all of those points- wisely I guess now its clear that all of it was gibberish. Your input on the subject reads like an exhibition on how to misread, misjudge and let nationalism blind you to the searingly obvious, and the South Korea/ Italy remarks will follow you around for a long time, filed neatly alongside "Taxi for Robins" and "Get fucking Hiwula on".

I haven’t gone quite on anything - only David advocated herd immunity. One report issued recently says Italy has at least 10 times more deaths than stated and the analysis won’t be complete for many months anyway

People by the way were on the football side getting really pissed off with your “contribution” on match threads - one who I respect a lot more than you couldn’t be bothered commenting anymore and he actually goes to games

Of course you go to games also don’t you? Well now you do though actually you said you’ve hardly been in the country since 2016 but then oddly you have - how odd

You remember intrinsic details of football matches when you were barely 2 - you have a picture with Ian Wallace when you were a foetus - odd

The election frothing in twitter was hilarious. You claimed Robert Peston was a Tory stooge employed by Cummings. It’s cringeworthy paranoia

Your “story” has more holes than the proverbial Swiss cheese

 

[Deleted member 5849]

NO. NO NO NO.

You started it!

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I haven’t gone quite on anything - only David advocated herd immunity. One report issued recently says Italy has at least 10 times more deaths than stated and the analysis won’t be complete for many months anyway

People by the way were on the football side getting really pissed off with your “contribution” on match threads - one who I respect a lot more than you couldn’t be bothered commenting anymore and he actually goes to games

Of course you go to games also don’t you? Well now you do though actually you said you’ve hardly been in the country since 2016 but then oddly you have - how odd

You remember intrinsic details of football matches when you were barely 2 - you have a picture with Ian Wallace when you were a foetus - odd

The election frothing in twitter was hilarious. You claimed Robert Peston was a Tory stooge employed by Cummings. It’s cringeworthy paranoia

Your “story” has more holes than the proverbial Swiss cheese

lol- getting a tad wound up I see. I am genuinely glad you're still getting your letters of support though.

oh dear
Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

 

[Sick Boy]

One report issued recently says Italy has at least 10 times more deaths than stated and the analysis won’t be complete for many months anyway

No it didn't, it was actually talking about a town but why let the facts get in the way? The same paper has recently said the same thing about the UK though, sadly - UK coronavirus deaths more than double official figure, according to FT study | Free to read

 

[chiefdave]

Not surprising when I think 8 of the 18 contracts were given to the Vote Leave data analysts, the Cambridge Analytica crew. You'd need to be a bit naive to download that and not expect to have your data used for nefarious means. And funnily enough its very similar to the one they tried to roll out in USA where it sneakily asked for your permission to access all data on your phone, forever.

Interesting, or should that be worrying, that as well as wanting all your data now they aren't providing any means for you to request its deletion when this is all over.

NHS planning is the same thing.

Still if there's a conspiracy theory out there then someone will jump on it. You're never alone in the internet

Its like being in a time warp. We're back to we're right and everyone else has got it wrong.

 

[Grendel]

lol- getting a tad wound up I see. I am genuinely glad you're still getting your letters of support though.

oh dear
Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

90% aren’t and we can dig out earlier posts can’t we? I’m not getting letters of support I’ve just had PMs they think you are an idiot

 

[Grendel]

No it didn't, it was actually talking about a town but why let the facts get in the way? The same paper has recently said the same thing about the UK though, sadly - UK coronavirus deaths more than double official figure, according to FT study | Free to read

are Italy now the only country making no attempt to record deaths out of hospital across Europe? Why?

 

[Sick Boy]

are Italy now the only country making no attempt to record deaths out of hospital across Europe? Why?

What a surprise that you're doing your best to deflect after today's news.

Anyway, back to reality - https://www.thelocal.it/20200503/italys-death-toll-jumps-after-non-hospital-deaths-added-in

Yes, not all deaths are going to be recorded, but to claim that no effort is being back whatsoever is ridiculous. All countries in Europe are going to have under-reported figures, and in reality both the UK and Italy are going to have much higher numbers.

 

[Grendel]

What a surprise that you're doing your best to deflect after today's news.

Anyway, back to reality https://www.thelocal.it/20200503/italys-death-toll-jumps-after-non-hospital-deaths-added-in

So only a few hundred have died outside hospitals? Wow

 

[wingy]

Interesting, or should that be worrying, that as well as wanting all your data now they are providing any means for you to request its deletion when this is all over.

Its like being in a time warp. We're back to we're right and everyone else has got it wrong.

Couldn't help but feel that from the guy to Hancock's right at yesterday's press conference .
Also thought the opening question from a member of the public was excellent and unfortunately the answer followed the usual Hancock modus to obfuscate the response .
It was a simple 'Are we in the next phase going to Crush or suppress contagion to help the NHS as before "..
What we got was about 200 words that at the Very end sounded like it may be the former point but just was not clear.
Wriggle room I expect.

 

[Sick Boy]

So only a few hundred have died outside hospitals? Wow

Your attempts to deflect away from the unfolding tragedy in the UK and score cheap political points is pretty shameful. Both countries are going to have much higher death counts.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

You started it!

I'm sorry.