Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (9 Viewers)

[Grendel]

Your attempts to deflect away from the unfolding tragedy in the UK and score cheap political points is pretty shameful. Both countries are going to have much higher death counts.

Eh? I am saying Italy are across Europe - other than Germany - showing far less deaths outside hospital. That’s a fact - why so defensive

 

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[Sick Boy]

Eh? I am saying Italy are across Europe - other than Germany - showing far less deaths outside hospital. That’s a fact - why so defensive

You claimed no effort was being made whatsoever, which simply isn’t true.
There are people calling for investigations into the true number of deaths as well.

 

[Grendel]

You claimed no effort was being made whatsoever, which simply isn’t true.

Well adding a token number of deaths I suspect.l suspect you’d be all over Mr Johnson if he made that statement wouldn’t you?

 

[Sick Boy]

Well adding a token number of deaths I suspect.l suspect you’d be all over Mr Johnson if he made that statement wouldn’t you?

And yet more bollocks to deflect away from reality.

 

[Grendel]

And yet more bollocks to deflect away from reality.

So if the uk government had produced the same data as Italy regarding deaths outside hospitals would you have reacted in the same way? They are doing their best?

Would you?

 

[clint van damme]

I'm sorry.

to be honest, that doesn't cut it!

 

[Sick Boy]

So if the uk government had produced the same data as Italy regarding deaths outside hospitals would you have reacted in the same way? They are doing their best?

Would you?

And yet again more deflection away from today’s news and a government that has overseen a crisis despite the warnings and one that you’ve blindly and unquestionably backed at every stage throughout.

I actually think the 5 Stat lot are useless and have always said so, whereas you’ve actually voted in the incompetent lot.

 

[chiefdave]

So only a few hundred have died outside hospitals? Wow

Excess deaths for Italy:

Coronavirus tracked: the latest figures as countries fight to contain the pandemic | Free to read

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

to be honest, that doesn't cut it!

Ha ha.
Its more than we ever got from that c**t Cameron though ain't it

 

[chiefdave]

Probably not the best look for Hancock to tell the Shadow Minister for Mental Health, who is also an A&E doctor, to watch her tone when she questions the impact of the lack of testing.



Interestingly while Hancock was telling her she was wrong Sir Patrick Vallance was telling the Commons Health Select Committee it would have been "beneficial" to have ramped up testing. And Jenny Harries told them "things would have been done differently" if test capacity had not been limited.

Is today a 'had enough of experts' day?

 

[wingy]

Not commented on China at all. You're pedalling the same I'm holier than thou nonsense that you do on the EU in out thread. . Here you are giving us the same rhetoric yet again. It's incredibly boring and predictable. Shall I bump the EU thread for you so you can spout the same line on there again ?

Yes Alan Im the same as him in that respect
I would never be able to stand idly by and watch silently whilst I believed a humongous colossal National FU was being made bringing harm on the population even though I may be in a minority .
Certainly If I thought I was employing wisdom over emotion .
I certainly recognise that it is ok to hold the opposing view based on the same precepts .
May seem or look concieted.but really is genuine.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Estimates of 120,000 people in this country alone. Though technically that was the government response to the crisis rather than directly.
Source: Health and social care spending cuts linked to 120,000 excess deaths in England | BMJ

Coventrian gone very quiet.....!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I'm sorry.

So you should be!

 

[wingy]

Probably not the best look for Hancock to tell the Shadow Minister for Mental Health, who is also an A&E doctor, to watch her tone when she questions the impact of the lack of testing.



Interestingly while Hancock was telling her she was wrong Sir Patrick Vallance was telling the Commons Health Select Committee it would have been "beneficial" to have ramped up testing. And Jenny Harries told them "things would have been done differently" if test capacity had not been limited.

Is today a 'had enough of experts' day?

Oops unpatriotic leftie uppity thing.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Probably not the best look for Hancock to tell the Shadow Minister for Mental Health, who is also an A&E doctor, to watch her tone when she questions the impact of the lack of testing.



Interestingly while Hancock was telling her she was wrong Sir Patrick Vallance was telling the Commons Health Select Committee it would have been "beneficial" to have ramped up testing. And Jenny Harries told them "things would have been done differently" if test capacity had not been limited.

Is today a 'had enough of experts' day?

Hancock is such a lightweight, I've reached the conclusion that the Tories just are not bright enough to have fucked this up by design. They're just fucking stupid.

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[Sick Boy]

Hancock is such a lightweight, I've reached the conclusion that the Tories just are not bright enough to have fucked this up by design. They're just fucking stupid.

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Easily the most incompetent government in my lifetime.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Coventrian gone very quiet.....!

You'd almost say that this covid crisis is an extension of that

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[shmmeee]

Easily the most incompetent government in my lifetime.

They’re just all so fucking stupid. In fairness the Labour front bench last year was also the stupidest in living memory.

Why are all our politicians so fucking dumb? What happened to the intellectual powerhouses?

 

[shmmeee]

FT interactive graph thingy now outside the paywall: Coronavirus tracked: has your country’s epidemic peaked? | Free to read | Financial Times

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

They’re just all so fucking stupid. In fairness the Labour front bench last year was also the stupidest in living memory.

Why are all our politicians so fucking dumb? What happened to the intellectual powerhouses?

It's the perpetuation of the two party system
Where image takes precedence over wisdom
Where sound bite politics are served to
The fastfood culture
Where straight teeth in your mouth
Are more important than the words
That come out of it

 

[Johhny Blue]

Perspective. Hindsight is 2020

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Had a read through the Scottish government's latest publication on ways of easing restrictions and noticed this-pure guesswork really including ?? all over

 

[David O'Day]

Had a read through the Scottish government's latest publication on ways of easing restrictions and noticed this-pure guesswork really including ?? all over

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Got to love a scientific plan with multiple question Mark's against data.


Also seems we were worse than Italy at flattening the curve





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[clint van damme]

Probably not the best look for Hancock to tell the Shadow Minister for Mental Health, who is also an A&E doctor, to watch her tone when she questions the impact of the lack of testing.



Interestingly while Hancock was telling her she was wrong Sir Patrick Vallance was telling the Commons Health Select Committee it would have been "beneficial" to have ramped up testing. And Jenny Harries told them "things would have been done differently" if test capacity had not been limited.

Is today a 'had enough of experts' day?

behind Hancocks vapid, vacant, exterior is a nasty little c**t.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Got to love a scientific plan with multiple question Mark's against data.


Also seems we were worse than Italy at flattening the curve

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If Mrs Sturgeon was more focused on managing this disease than trying to one up RUK or to look more impressive then I'd have more understanding. But just guessing at the next outbreak or when treatments could appear makes her look more stupid than she already is

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

A little update from yesterday I still haven’t had my results but I am almost certainly positive as my wife has it and she has no symptoms she is perfectly fine and can go to work on Monday, I feel a lot Better today than I have for a week.

 

[fernandopartridge]

DH figures are late today, wonder what the reason for that is.

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[chiefdave]

Even by the Telegraph's standards this seems irresponsible. Just had my Mum on the phone in a complete state because according to the Telegraph the furlough scheme is to be wound down. As I'm furloughed she's now panicking that I'll be made redundant.

However looking into it what has actually been said is that the scheme won't last forever, which everyone knew, and that the government are looking to get people back to work. Chancellor even specifically said there will be 'no cliff edge'.

What complete pricks, as if people haven't got enough to worry about at the moment.

 

[chiefdave]

DH figures are late today, wonder what the reason for that is.

Got to post some more tests out to get the numbers up!

 

[chiefdave]

For those who are keen to sue China, not that I'm sure there's even a mechanism to do that, this report suggests that the strain of the virus causing so many problems in here and in the US is D614G which may have originated here.
Spike mutation pipeline reveals the emergence of a more transmissible form of SARS-CoV-2

Edit: just to be clear and so nobody panics this isn't a new more transmissible form that has just been discovered dropping us deeper in the shit, its the one we're already dealing with.

 

[shmmeee]

DH figures are late today, wonder what the reason for that is.

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693 deaths today.

85k ish tests

Is it me or is the death totals not falling as fast as you’d expect?

 

[King of the Lesbians]

For those who are keen to sue China, not that I'm sure there's even a mechanism to do that, this report suggests that the strain of the virus causing so many problems in here and in the US is D614G which may have originated here.
Spike mutation pipeline reveals the emergence of a more transmissible form of SARS-CoV-2

Edit: just to be clear and so nobody panics this isn't a new more transmissible form that has just been discovered dropping us deeper in the shit, its the one we're already dealing with.

Don't understand a lot of that but to dumb it down for me does that mean that the people who think they may have had it in December could have had an older, less easily transmissible form of covid-19?

 

[clint van damme]

693 deaths today.

85k ish tests

Is it me or is the death totals not falling as fast as you’d expect?

looks like care homes are now becoming a huge issue.

 

[Sick Boy]

looks like care homes are now becoming a huge issue.

The way they’ve become and afterthought in many countries is a disgrace.

 

[chiefdave]

Don't understand a lot of that but to dumb it down for me does that mean that the people who think they may have had it in December could have had an older, less easily transmissible form of covid-19?

A lot of it is over my head but the bit I do get is that the virus, as with regular flu, mutates into different strains. Hence the yearly flu jab is a best guess of which strain they think will be dominant that winter.

What this appears to be saying is the virus already existed but in February mutated into a version named D614G which they say "began spreading in Europe in early February, and when introduced to new regions it rapidly becomes the dominant form."