Double edged sword as it seems the local alternatives were people on the council and we all know what they're like!
Sultana not evidence? Do you live in Coventry? I don't but know all about her. No lazy remark there.
Good article. Be interesting to see Germanys stats when they are eventually released. There number of deaths does seem incredibly low no matter how well they've managed the situation.
Our official figures at 71% of excess deaths suggests we've done reasonably well at recording the mortality rate compared to a lot of countries.
Fair enough.most of the alternatives to be fair. Sultana was shipped in because she was a Corbynite though, not because she was an Asian woman. It wasn’t an AWS AFAIK.
Yeah that's true. Lots of rumours Blair jnr was being lined up for Robinson's seat back in the day. Coventry's always been a target to parachute in candidates, as it's pretty safe as they go. I don't like that kind of thing as it leads to people who maybe don't have an affinity for the local area, but it's been on the cards be they white, male, african, asian, and all the colours of LGBTQ+Except as I’ve stated Sultana wasn’t the beneficiary of positive discrimination, just good old fashioned jobs for the boys politics.
She clearly went about it the wrong way but when you say that she’s changed the long term future for the whole continent you seem to be defaulting to assuming that it’s for the worst.Open the borders up.
I get that it was supposed to be a humanitarian action, but it was not thought through at all. The consequences of such reckless action, has in my opinion, changed the long term future of the whole continent.
I'll never forgive her for what she did.
I honestly think that was enough to make the leave vote win.
In his defence, I was assuming he meant in terms of giving ammunition to people with dubious views such as Farage.She clearly went about it the wrong way but when you say that she’s changed the long term future for the whole continent you seem to be defaulting to assuming that it’s for the worst.
I don't think there are many things you don't know all about judging from your posts.Sultana not evidence? Do you live in Coventry? I don't but know all about her. No lazy remark there.
Open the borders up.
I get that it was supposed to be a humanitarian action, but it was not thought through at all. The consequences of such reckless action, has in my opinion, changed the long term future of the whole continent.
While there is no doubt the tories are atrocious, they keep winning elections.
Not all of the electorate are stupid, and they keep rejecting labour as somehow even worse that the tories.
If there were some genuine decent opposition I'm sure they would get voted for.
The problem is politics were much better when it was those who served the best got elected. Once the question was asked on why were most MP's white males it suddenly changed. That meant that if the best candidate was a white male it could go elsewhere. No problem of gender, race, sexual orientation or whatever being chosen as long as it is the best person fir the job. But isn't it strange that the big change in the type of MP we have also coincided with the massive downgrade in quality of MP's we now have.Except as I’ve stated Sultana wasn’t the beneficiary of positive discrimination, just good old fashioned jobs for the boys politics.
I don't think there are many things you don't know all about judging from your posts.
The problem is politics were much better when it was those who served the best got elected. Once the question was asked on why were most MP's white males it suddenly changed. That meant that if the best candidate was a white male it could go elsewhere. No problem of gender, race, sexual orientation or whatever being chosen as long as it is the best person fir the job. But isn't it strange that the big change in the type of MP we have also coincided with the massive downgrade in quality of MP's we now have.
Yeah that's true. Lots of rumours Blair jnr was being lined up for Robinson's seat back in the day. Coventry's always been a target to parachute in candidates, as it's pretty safe as they go. I don't like that kind of thing as it leads to people who maybe don't have an affinity for the local area, but it's been on the cards be they white, male, african, asian, and all the colours of LGBTQ+
Despite that, and despite it making the election results closer than they maybe should have been, as far as I can tell, both the new MPs are not doing too bad a job at all at being a local MP. Time will tell if they keep that up, of course.
Please tell me more. Not my fault I know more than yourself as you don't seem to know about people like Sultana and are happy to argue the point without checking.I don't think there are many things you don't know all about judging from your posts.
I have had my results back after seven days and I am positive
Were politics better then? Why the sudden change?Yes, oh for the good old days when old white men rules the waves.
Ah so she is the only one. Strange hiw you defend certain people.He's named one person and used her to somehow prove that the entire country's leaders are selected on the basis of 'ticking boxes', not exactly overwhelming evidence to be honest.
Yeah, there's always a certain resentment when people get parachuted in, with limited knowledge of local issues. At the end of the day, you're voting for an MP to represent you locally as well (a flaw *and* benefit of the system!). If you compare the margins to Colleen Fletcher's seat (and I wouldn't put her up as an especially outstanding MP!) then it's criminal how close they came to losing them.Sultana has improved a lot. She was still on shouty activist mode at first but she’s toned that down a lot and comments on local issues more. I’ve been more impressed with the other woman who’s name escapes me right now though.
There were a lot of unhappy people, myself included, at exactly how marginal a safe seat had become. Hard to say how much of that was down to the candidate and how much down to general crap campaign organisation nationally and changing demographics though. Mattie Haven the Con candidate is a local councillor and from what I’ve seen works very hard locally so was a good opponent.
The problem is politics were much better when it was those who served the best got elected. Once the question was asked on why were most MP's white males it suddenly changed. That meant that if the best candidate was a white male it could go elsewhere. No problem of gender, race, sexual orientation or whatever being chosen as long as it is the best person fir the job. But isn't it strange that the big change in the type of MP we have also coincided with the massive downgrade in quality of MP's we now have.
Were politics better then? Why the sudden change?
Whether you agree with his policies or not, Sajid Javid was arguably the most competent leadership candidate for the Tories.Similarly I’d argue Rishi Sunak is one of the more
Impressive Tories (though we are well into shiniest turd territory here) and yet is consistently behind unimpressive white people like Johnson, Raab, or Hancock in terms of positioning.
Just looking at voting statistics in the last GE for age group and having read the Guardian article Stu has linked are the Tories decimating their target audience for votes? You were more likely to vote Tory if you were elderly or have parents who are. With the way the government has palmed of the Coronavirus issue off onto care homes wouldn’t that make you think at the next GE of how you were treated during this, or how you will be treated if you go into a care home during the next term, or how your parents were treated in all of this, or how your parents could be treated in the next term if they have to go into a care home?
It’s a hypothesis I’ll give you that, but it’s only really been one party used sparingly so not sure it can explain away the drop in quality. You’ve also got to look at how the economy sucks smart people into finance rather than politics and as I said the reduced power of government generally that stop people entering.
Also the three examples I used were all white straight males. None of them “won” because of positive discrimination but because of frustration with a managerial political class.
For me the most impressive Labour leadership candidate was a BAME woman (Nandy), as was the most impressive deputy candidate IMO (Allen-Khan), both came after white British candidates. Similarly I’d argue Rishi Sunak is one of the more
Impressive Tories (though we are well into shiniest turd territory here) and yet is consistently behind unimpressive white people like Johnson, Raab, or Hancock in terms of positioning.
Equally, Diane Abbott and David Lammy can be terrible yet were elected before any positive discrimination.
I know about Sultana and Owatemi, it was the apparent better non box ticking candidates I was not aware of. You make claim after claim with no real evidence. Can you tell me at what point in history the question was asked of why MPs were mostly white males? This according to you is the point it all nose dived.Please tell me more. Not my fault I know more than yourself as you don't seem to know about people like Sultana and are happy to argue the point without checking.
You don't have to be intelligent enough to choose between finance and being an MP. You need a different skill set.It’s a hypothesis I’ll give you that, but it’s only really been one party used sparingly so not sure it can explain away the drop in quality. You’ve also got to look at how the economy sucks smart people into finance rather than politics and as I said the reduced power of government generally that stop people entering.
Also the three examples I used were all white straight males. None of them “won” because of positive discrimination but because of frustration with a managerial political class.
For me the most impressive Labour leadership candidate was a BAME woman (Nandy), as was the most impressive deputy candidate IMO (Allen-Khan), both came after white British candidates. Similarly I’d argue Rishi Sunak is one of the more
Impressive Tories (though we are well into shiniest turd territory here) and yet is consistently behind unimpressive white people like Johnson, Raab, or Hancock in terms of positioning.
Equally, Diane Abbott and David Lammy can be terrible yet were elected before any positive discrimination.
Whether you agree with his policies or not, Sajid Javid was arguably the most competent leadership candidate for the Tories.
How pathetic.I know about Sultana and Owatemi, it was the apparent better non box ticking candidates I was not aware of. You make claim after claim with no real evidence. Can you tell me at what point in history the question was asked of why MPs were mostly white males? This according to you is the point it all nose dived.
You don't have to be intelligent enough to choose between finance and being an MP. You need a different skill set.
These days do some sort of degree in politics and you are 80% on the way to becoming an MP. I prefer an MP to be older. I want them to have life skills. I want them to learn from life and not a text book or from someone else's opinion. That is why I like the idea of Starmer. Went into politics when older. Not in it for the money. He left a well paid profession to become an MP.
Politicians only try to appeal to what they see voters wanting. You could have had a hybrid of Churchill, Atlee, Thatcher & Blair running for PM and had they not focussed on brexit and immigrants they'd have got hammered because people like Farage, Banks & co would have destroyed them.
Politicians are not suddenly rubbish because they are generally weaker, they are only a product of what the population wants.
You are funny.So by that logic you're a big Rees Mogg supporter?
You know, I'm going to avoid the political just for a moment, apart from in a wider sense.Apart from being heavily implicated in tax avoidance schemes & contributing to the worst (soon to be second worst) recession of all time
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