Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (8 Viewers)

[Ring Of Steel]

You know, I've been fairly tolerant of the government. Who, after all, wants to be in charge at a time like this? You're damned if you do, and damned if you don't... but there's no excuse for the on the hoof nonsensical messaging they've been doing the past week, and the determination to avoid scrutiny. Their consultation, as ever, seems to be non-existent, and their ability is even less.

Your patience has been very admirable, because its been this way right from the start.

 

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[Terry Gibson's perm]

I'm concerned how my work will choose to interpret this. Half the management seem keen to go back because they're bored and want a chat(!) the other half seem more cautious, but indecisive.

I fear we'll be hurtling back for no reason.

If it’s anything like our management it has been everything is fine keep going to the grunts on the floor while they work from their offices or homes, we haven’t seen our department manager since the day it started we just get the odd you are all shit message from him but he was unbelievably lazy even before this started.

 

[skybluetony176]

More likely is that other countries will refuse flights from the UK as we’ll probably be the last to get over it

It’s OK. Raab has already advised that the Scottish seaport of Stranraer is the quickest crossing to Calais for all those living in Kent who want to drive to the continent.

 

[David O'Day]

Even the "excellent" Dan Hodges thinks this is a cluster fuck. Anyone know which poor sucker has to present this in parliament later on today?

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[David O'Day]

Taab has also said this morning the going back to work thing is for Wednesday not today as clearly announced last night.

Clowns

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[Terry Gibson's perm]

They've had time to plan this properly. It wasn't even a live speech yesterday. I just can't get my head around it, it feels like a social experiment.

"No change right now, but here is what we are planning"

Then crack on with the rest of it. Easy. Pay me.

Yes there is more information coming today, but so far that is even more confused.

It was just a load of hand waving and hot air yesterday, but as he worked yesterday he will probably take the rest of the week off.

 

[djr8369]

You know, I've been fairly tolerant of the government. Who, after all, wants to be in charge at a time like this? You're damned if you do, and damned if you don't... but there's no excuse for the on the hoof nonsensical messaging they've been doing the past week, and the determination to avoid scrutiny. Their consultation, as ever, seems to be non-existent, and their ability is even less.

Apparently they consulted with the devolved nations but they seem to have read about the changes in the Sunday papers. They couldn’t talk about it in parliament last week as they were waiting until Sunday evening to get the maximum data before making decisions but it was a prerecorded message. The cabinet met yesterday morning to discuss the plan but the plan was already made and leaked to press. Really worrying trends.

I also wish they’d drop the three line slogans. It’s a pandemic not an election campaign. The first one worked fairly well but now it just feels like they’re going to have a new one for each stage for the sake of it and it’s just empty words which don’t communicate any actual information like “stay home” did.


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[PVA]

Even the "excellent" Dan Hodges thinks this is a cluster fuck. Anyone know which poor sucker has to present this in parliament later on today?

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The main man himself is making a very rare appearance to present it himself.

Starmer is going to pick him apart at will I'm very much looking forward to it.

Then later this evening he is taking questions from the public.... that have been screened and picked by him and his aides.

 

[djr8369]

So the alert level today is 219,000.7

What’s not clear about that?


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[skybluetony176]

Even the "excellent" Dan Hodges thinks this is a cluster fuck. Anyone know which poor sucker has to present this in parliament later on today?

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By the way, Mr Burns has an uncanny resemblance to Grendull in the looks department. Coincidence?

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

The main man himself is making a very rare appearance to present it himself.

Starmer is going to pick him apart at will I'm very much looking forward to it.

Then later this evening he is taking questions from the public.... that have been screened and picked by him and his aides.

Oh dear poor old Alexander is going to look a total ass again, Sir Keir is far to smart for him maybe Johnson should be allowed to take his puppet master in for support.

 

[David O'Day]

Oh dear poor old Alexander is going to look a total ass again, Sir Keir is far to smart for him maybe Johnson should be allowed to take his puppet master in for support.

I like the way that they nicer Keir is being to you the more trouble you are in

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[skybluetony176]

Raab seems to have given three versions of the same advice this morning. It’s now down to us and common sense. Use common sense to see loved ones outdoors – Raab presumably that means ignore everything he’s said this morning.

 

[djr8369]

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[David O'Day]

Raab seems to have given three versions of the same advice this morning. It’s now down to us and common sense. Use common sense to see loved ones outdoors – Raab presumably that means ignore everything he’s said this morning.

Wurzel said he was the next pm.

If so god help us

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[tisza]

Where’s it been said about the holidays?

seems to be more about the 14 day self-quarantine when coming back.
Can see a load of loopholes in that.
Eurostar & ferries atm doesn't seem to apply.
or fly to France, hire a car to go nearly anywhere in Europe then fly back from France. daft.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Read that it was very busy on the trains this morning and obviously the tube, all they had to do was limit numbers to the carriages and put things on chairs so not many could sit in an area, I hope they have got the Nightingale hospital still ready as they may need it soon.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Maybe it's an effort by Boris to see how shit a job he can do and still get net approval

 

[Sick Boy]

Interesting you said that. I was thinking of doing a road trip to Europe.

So guess I can get away with that then?

I think you probably would to be fine going through borders if you can show a reservation, you just might run into problems in that country though, not sure

 

[Ian1779]

Maybe it's an effort by Boris to see how shit a job he can do and still get net approval

Even Goebbels would have been proud of the propaganda some people are wheeling out about the competency of this government.

 

[PVA]

Oh dear.

From YouGov:


% of Britons who feel they know what each slogan is asking them to do:

"Stay home, Protect the NHS, Save lives" - 91%
"Stay alert, Control the virus, Save lives" - 30%

 

[PVA]

It's really come to something when you find yourself cheering on Piers Morgan

 

[djr8369]

Oh dear.

From YouGov:


% of Britons who feel they know what each slogan is asking them to do:

"Stay home, Protect the NHS, Save lives" - 91%
"Stay alert, Control the virus, Save lives" - 30%

Understandable. As I said earlier it’s meaningless as doesn’t really convert any information. Unless it’s supposed to mean “basically carry on as before” in which case don’t change it.


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[Ian1779]

It's really come to something when you find yourself cheering on Piers Morgan

The man said never vote Tory again yesterday... he’s finally seen sense.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

The man said never vote Tory again yesterday... he’s finally seen sense.

They are just putting any old load of rubbish in front of him now, a good leader would step forward and take the flak himself so don’t expect Alexander to step forward.

 

[djr8369]

It's really come to something when you find yourself cheering on Piers Morgan

Blimey he isn’t pulling any punches there. A lot of people would have been watching that this morning.


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[fernandopartridge]

I don't like Moron but this is right to it. The Pestons and Laura Ks of this world should look on.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Blimey he isn’t pulling any punches there. A lot of people would have been watching that this morning.


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I hope Laura K managed to remove her head from Alexander's arse hole in time to see how to put pressure on them.

 

[David O'Day]

I remember so it seems that the uk public is turning against the government

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[Skybluefaz]

It's already happening, see a lot of Johnson supporters saying it's clear that what he was saying was use your common sense. People will be blamed for their own death because they didn't use their common sense. Stupid people.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I remember so it seems that the uk public is turning against the government

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Don't forget there's no evidence at all that we are second only to the USA in total deaths

 

[djr8369]

It's already happening, see a lot of Johnson supporters saying it's clear that what he was saying was use your common sense. People will be blamed for their own death because they didn't use their common sense. Stupid people.

Yeah, scandalous really as clearly common sense will mean different things to different people and you have to also weigh that judgement up against other factors like pressure to get to work. Essentially contracting the decision making process and responsibility to the individual. This is of course one of the ideological concepts of conservatism which implies ideology is governing the response rather than science or what’s best for the nation.


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[clint van damme]

I honestly thing the senior Tories need to do something. This mob are absolutely useless.
Get rid and bring in some experienced heads. Johnson clearly isn't up to it.
He's had a reputation for being lazy and uninterested in every position he's held and it's showing.
I appreciate he was ill but the tweet earlier from the FT showing how few appearances he's made since the start of the year was damning.

Who knows, maybe some of his cabinet might perform a bit better under a proper leader. I doubt it because they appear go be a bunch of cretins but you never know

 

[fernandopartridge]

Does anybody know the methodology for calculating 'R'? Assuming R is very different in different places, is the "between 0.5 and 0.9" really a weighted average of different local areas?