Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (214 Viewers)

[djr8369]

It’s an irrelevance full stop - it’s viewed by a handful of wierdos normally on the Parliament channel. As I’ve said Hague was a million times better than Starmer and had Blair on the run - it was a total mismatch - as it was on polling day the other way round

The unfortunate thing for Starmer is not only is it early but no one is engaged at all now anyway and so any bounce is nullified by the crises

Johnson isn’t a conviction politician and regardless of this and any other events I suspect will call it a day before the next election and a successor will benefit from a bounce

Labour have zero chance of an actual working majority in parliament unless the SNP vote collapses - this is not impossible as I suspect dear old Nicola is secretly hoping either the virus lasts for a few more years or a certain ex leader gets it

A very reasonable comment with some good insight.


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[David O'Day]

A very reasonable comment with some good insight.


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No, no it's not. The Blair governments would of had working majorities without Scottish Mps.

His arguments are simply incorrect.

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[Grendel]

No, no it's not. The Blair governments would of had working majorities without Scottish Mps.

His arguments are simply incorrect.

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This is not a Blair opposition and never will be and it’s not against a busted flush regime which was Major.

Starmer doesn’t represent a brave new world - keep believing and keep being disappointed

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Hopefully down to 3000 infections and less than 500 deaths today. Then we can see things are going in a good direction

 

[Liquid Gold]

"Not voting for Labour until they get their act together - no not like that, I meant do what the Conservatives do"

 

[Brylowes]

It was obvious we’re going to have to pay financially for it, let’s just hope the kick isn’t too big and from today we get things reopen and the economy safely moving.... this is why we can’t stay in lockdown forever

Seen somewhere that 1 in 3 companies might not reopen

Do you not think a 2 or if necessary 3 month hard lockdown would have given us more
Chance of being able to safely re-open without the possibility of a significant 2nd wave.

I’m no expert but if I were a betting man I’d be placing some serious wedge on a 2nd
Wave hitting us sometime in the next 6 weeks ‘as a direct consequence of both the
Governments hesitant and relaxed attitude to lockdown and their apparent haste to
Leave it behind.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Hopefully down to 3000 infections and less than 500 deaths today. Then we can see things are going in a good direction

Not really, it needs to be sustained for a period. So far we've had a very slight decrease in both counts but it has jumped about a bit.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Turf Parliament out to MK or somewhere. Give it a semicircular chamber and turn the palace into a museum of democracy and the British state.

I'd love it if parliament 'travelled' and was held in a different region each term/year. Would go a long way to removing that London-centric bubble and you'd be amazed how quick you'd get investment in the regions doing it. You could make it part of the redevelopment programme of cities so the MP's would actually see what it's like living in places that are struggling and constantly overlooked for investment.

 

[David O'Day]

Why is the dhsc reporting different figures to the ons

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[chiefdave]

How can it be right for PM to outright lie on public record in the commons?

There should be an MPs code of conduct with consequences for the type of outright lie Johnson has told today. He knows far more people will see him declare that than will see the evidence that he is lying.

 

[skybluetony176]

How can it be right for PM to outright lie on public record in the commons?

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I think it’s referred to as parliamentary privilege.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

There should be an MPs code of conduct with consequences for the type of outright lie Johnson has told today. He knows far more people will see him declare that than will see the evidence that he is lying.

Will be forgotten in 24hrs which is so wrong

 

[David O'Day]

I think it’s referred to as parliamentary privilege.

The peiviledge is not to be used for anything you say.

It's still against the rules to mislead the house

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[chiefdave]

it’s viewed by a handful of wierdos normally on the Parliament channel

How BBC Parliament, TV's geekiest channel, became a surprise ratings hit

 

[David O'Day]

How BBC Parliament, TV's geekiest channel, became a surprise ratings hit

Once again grendal and the truth are in a massive disagreement

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[David O'Day]

Will be forgotten in 24hrs which is so wrong

The bbc are running it on their live feed which is viewed by a lot of people

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[shmmeee]

I think it’s referred to as parliamentary privilege.

No that just stops people suing you, it’s still against the code of conduct to mislead the house. Convention for ministers is generally they resign. Not sure about Prime Ministers, or for that matter people who clearly couldn’t give a fuck about parliamentary convention.

 

[Blind-Faith]

Apparently just under 500 dead and 3000+ new infections. But yeah let send everyone back to work!

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Yeah, I used to but not so much in recent years. I work in digital marketing/SEO so happy to give advice with anything if you need it. If you managed to build it up that much already and have access to people of interest, then I think you could probably turn into something that does very well by the sounds of it - especially if you enjoy writing about it.

I spoke to the guy who I was running it with and he's declared interest in starting it back up again, although looks like it will be me taking the lead probably.

I'm going to come up with a business plan and send it over to him so we can discuss.

He is really good at marketing and has his own other company, but I would be greatful of any advice, especially tapping into that Italian market.

 

[PVA]

Will be forgotten in 24hrs which is so wrong

The amount of shit this government gets away with is unreal.

Not just during this pandemic, but since Johnson came into power.

Just lie after lie after lie. It's incredible.

It gets brushed under the carpet, people like Dom don't know it even happened and the rest of us are just aghast at what they get away with.

 

[PVA]

Though I will say it's a breath of fresh air to actually see someone calling him out on his bullshit, fair play to Starmer.

I wonder if Johnson will soon realise it's not a good idea to lie in front of an incredibly successful QC.

He's going to get a pasting every time he steps foot in the Commons now, at last.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I watched the first half of PMQ's in the background and I have to be honest and say I was pretty impressed with Starmer.

While he isn't probably the most fun at parties, he speaks intelligently and coherently. It was nice to see the right questions being asked without it just being unnecessary Tory bashing for the sake of it.

I'll be watching him with interest. I know it is easier to be on the opposite bench but even so, hopefully it'll be positive for the whole country if he continues in that manner. The only thing that worries me is some more of the Labour politicians. If they could have a clear out a bit, it could be a step in the right direction.

 

[David O'Day]

I look forward to dum and grendal pretending that the governments rather pathetic defence of accusing Keir Starmer of selectively quoting by quoting a line from the governments own advice.



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[Sky Blue Pete]

Apparently just under 500 dead and 3000+ new infections. But yeah let send everyone back to work!

We are daft aren’t we as a nation

 

[skybluetony176]

"Not voting for Labour until they get their act together - no not like that, I meant do what the Conservatives do"

Fair play to Starmer. Imagine if the opposition had have been strong enough to call the PM out when Tony Blair took us to war illegally.
A strong opposition can only force a strong government. Boris is going to have to up his game to stay ahead of Starmer.

 

[skybluetony176]

In case anyone was wondering what leadership looks like

I dare say that because New Zealand acted fast and decisively their economic hit won’t be as bad as ours either.

 

[skybluetony176]

I see No10 has accused Starmer of misquoting the guidance he quoted in parliament by referring to a different section (ie the wrong section) of the guidance as proof.

 

[David O'Day]

I see No10 has accused Starmer of misquoting the guidance he quoted in parliament by referring to a different section (ie the wrong section) of the guidance as proof.

It's a strange argument to make. It admits he lied at PMQs

Coronavirus 'community transmission highly likely'

Also here is the Chief Medical Officer stating community transmission was highly likely happening in the uk st week before so why sid they not change the advice to reflect that until the 13th? It shows even more clearly how slow they were with regards to care homes

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[skybluetony176]

It's a strange argument to make. It admits he lied at PMQs

Coronavirus 'community transmission highly likely'

Also here is the Chief Medical Officer stating community transmission was highly likely happening in the uk st week before so why sid they not change the advice to reflect that until the 13th? It shows even more clearly how slow they were with regards to care homes

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It also admits that the government’s own guidelines are contradictory to themselves.

 

[stupot07]

In case anyone was wondering what leadership looks like

I dare say that because New Zealand acted fast and decisively their economic hit won’t be as bad as ours either.

I know that will be poo poo'd as a leftie momentum video, but the contrast couldnt be starker. She's doing an amazing job, treating people with respect and like adults and doing what needs to be done, not like brain dead part time prime minister.

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[David O'Day]

It also admits that the government’s own guidelines are contradictory to themselves.

It rattled them and they have panicked and came out with this laughable defense. This will be q1 next week at pmqs

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[Ian1779]

Fair play to Starmer. Imagine if the opposition had have been strong enough to call the PM out when Tony Blair took us to war illegally.
A strong opposition can only force a strong government. Boris is going to have to up his game to stay ahead of Starmer.

The oppositions real strength will play out in the quality of their offer to the British people. I’m pleased that Starmer has the forum to shred the government on its disastrous policy choices and his forensic style certainly emphasises that.

I’m more interested to see where he goes post Cov-ID 19. Will he continue to offer an anti-austerity agenda, because if not he will not fare well. I was disappointed with Labour rent policy (well only the deferral part) and would hope he will go back and rectify that later down the line.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I have just started watching pmqs on YouTube and the difference between the two leaders is immediate Johnson arrives and his papers are all out of order and then he spends time trying to sort them, Starmer is prepared and organised. Without his pals behind him hollering and behaving like schools kids the Pm looks like he is lost

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I have just started watching pmqs on YouTube and the difference between the two leaders is immediate Johnson arrives and his papers are all out of order and then he spends time trying to sort them, Starmer is prepared and organised. Without his pals behind him hollering and behaving like schools kids the Pm looks like he is lost

It’s like watching Big Bang Theory minus laugh track

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

We are daft aren’t we as a nation

A majority is and they tend to be smug about being greater in number