Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (5 Viewers)

[Grendel]

The saddest and worst thing of it all is that it shows a wider societal problem with how these people are considered and how they are treated.

I can guarantee that half the deaths will be in these homes - and it’s not really their fault as containment in these environments is impossible - and a large percentage on top will be elderly and vulnerable people who either contracted it while in hospital or from community care workers in their own homes. When you then add health professionals into the mix they will be the vast majority of victims

 

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[Ring Of Steel]

I can guarantee that half the deaths will be in these homes - and it’s not really their fault as containment in these environments is impossible - and a large percentage on top will be elderly and vulnerable people who either contracted it while in hospital or from community care workers in their own homes. When you then add health professionals into the mix they will be the vast majority of victims

I don’t have any experience of care homes, I’m not going to say much on that. But based on your comments, what is your opinion on the instruction to send covid positive patients into care homes?

 

[Grendel]

I don’t have any experience of care homes, I’m not going to say much on that. But based on your comments, what is your opinion on the instruction to send covid positive patients into care homes?

Honestly it wouldn’t matter as as soon as 1 had it containment will be a nightmare and it’s always going to get into these places . I would guess that what has happened is that people have actually been moved out the hospitals into homes with no confirmation they have the virus. Communication between hospitals and the care home in my experience is non existent - the problem just gets passed on - I don’t know why they went to the homes unless they had come from there in the first place

 

[Grendel]

FP will know when it happened but there was a significant change when council home help services were contracted out. At that point service deteriorated dramatically and the communication between hospitals and out care - care homes or home help

 

[Skybluefaz]

6 of the 30 children in my wife's class are prepared to return to school.

 

[Nick]

6 of the 30 children in my wife's class are prepared to return to school.

Has there been a poll?

 

[Skybluefaz]

Has there been a poll?

Er, no she had to call them all up and she'll have to call the parents of the kids who aren't going in every day to check their position.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I agree, but this is a completely separate issue, this involves a Government directive to transfer
Covid19 recovering patients into care homes that were full with the very people all the experts
agree we’re the most vulnerable to fall foul of it.

Bang on and it’s a criminal act

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

See London only had 24 new confirmed cases in the last 24 hours, great news to see how low it’s getting! Let’s have some optimism for a change

 

[chiefdave]

Er, no she had to call them all up and she'll have to call the parents of the kids who aren't going in every day to check their position.

That seems a well thought out system. Surely better to get the parents to phone in if and when they change their mind rather than wasting her time every day.

 

[Skybluefaz]

That seems a well thought out system. Surely better to get the parents to phone in if and when they change their mind rather than wasting her time every day.

I presume they didn't think the response would be so low. She's year 6 as well.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

6 of the 30 children in my wife's class are prepared to return to school.

That's a reasonable number. There should be no more than 10 to ensure distancing. The govts idea of 15 is a joke.

 

[chiefdave]

See London only had 24 new confirmed cases in the last 24 hours, great news to see how low it’s getting! Let’s have some optimism for a change

Its been under 100 for 5 days but that's number is the lowest. Be interesting to see if it stays that low. Suspect we're 7-10 days from it jumping up again but fingers crossed it doesn't.

 

[Brylowes]

See London only had 24 new confirmed cases in the last 24 hours, great news to see how low it’s getting! Let’s have some optimism for a change

That’s the spirit “‘blind optimism” flying in the face of “all probability” will see us through.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

See London only had 24 new confirmed cases in the last 24 hours, great news to see how low it’s getting! Let’s have some optimism for a change

you know- it is possible to have a positive outlook, make the best of life, enjoy the bonus family time and be as happy as it’s possible to be at this time- but also acknowledge that we have useless c*nts running the country who have a hell of a lot of blood on their hands & are directly responsible for thousands of deaths, and whose actions mean this thing is going to run for a long time yet.

That is unless you’re gullible, simple minded and overreact to every snippet of info you hear. When will those tests be in Amazon and Boots by the way? They were due on the shelves weeks ago and you were going nuts about how great it was that Boris was ‘getting it done’?

 

[skybluetony176]

The government will be stock piling bleach next
UK pays £20m for Donald Trump's malaria drug 'Covid cure'

 

[clint van damme]

The government will be stock piling bleach next
UK pays £20m for Donald Trump's malaria drug 'Covid cure'

I was watching in interview with a doctor from the group Trump shut down, Eco health alliance.

He said the Wuhan lab were developing a drug, rumminex or something as a vaccine for covid viruses. They were very optimistic about it's chances.
Once Trump pulled the plug on the health alliance that went out the window.
Of course the official line was the US had giving Wuhan lab 3.7.
It was bullshit, they had givem the health alliance 3.7 million a year and they were using it to fund various projects including this one in Wuhan. The money they had given them totalled $76000 a year.

He was saying they had to work in collaboration with them because it wasn't feasible for them to turn up in China, collect samples and ship them back to the US so they needed Chinese cooperation so that's now out the window.

 

[skybluetony176]

I was watching in interview with a doctor from the group Trump shut down, Eco health alliance.

He said the Wuhan lab were developing a drug, rumminex or something as a vaccine for covid viruses. They were very optimistic about it's chances.
Once Trump pulled the plug on the health alliance that went out the window.
Of course the official line was the US had giving Wuhan lab 3.7.
It was bullshit, they had givem the health alliance 3.7 million a year and they were using it to fund various projects including this one in Wuhan. The money they had given them totalled $76000 a year.

He was saying they had to work in collaboration with them because it wasn't feasible for them to turn up in China, collect samples and ship them back to the US so they needed Chinese cooperation so that's now out the window.

Yeah but he’s a very stable genius.

 

[ajsccfc]

We should just buy the powerful torches to shine in people's mouths and kill the virus. Really bright lights. The brightest. If course you'll report that our lights are dim and that's why nobody's reading your paper.

 

[LastGarrison]

August, and it's in Mallorca. That's not even a joke.

At present he reckons there's more chance of the stag happening than the wedding.

If the wedding gets postponed until next year he said we will have another stag next year regardless. Let's hope for both!

Worst case scenario Slovenia has just opened its borders with no quarantine for EU nationals so get yourself to Ljubljana which is high on my Europe bucket list!!

Was actually meant to go for my 40th but the flights weren't the best so we went Loch Ness instead!

 

[Skybluefaz]

 

[shmmeee]

The words piss up and brewery spring to mind.

We’re going to get taken to the cleaners by professional countries over the next few years on trade negotiations.

 

[PVA]

I’ve been to a lot of care homes and can easily see why this occurred.

Unbelievable. Just cannot bring yourself to put even the slightest shred of blame on the government can you?

We can all see why this has occurred, the evidence is there in black and white.

Yet you say we should be ashamed of ourselves. Pathetic.

 

[Ian1779]

I presume they didn't think the response would be so low. She's year 6 as well.

With SATS cancelled you’d be forgiven for thinking Year 6’s and parents might not see the point in sending them back until September. I know there is the transition to think of but with secondary schools not opening it would be limited anyway. Only sad thing is about them having chance to say goodbye to primary school after 7 years.

 

[skybluetony176]

We should just buy the powerful torches to shine in people's mouths and kill the virus. Really bright lights. The brightest. If course you'll report that our lights are dim and that's why nobody's reading your paper.

 

[David O'Day]

Coronavirus: Dozens wrongly charged under lockdown laws, CPS says

The po po are still incompetent

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[Nick]

So many dodgy car washes open, it's alright having them clean it out but when they cough or sneeze in your car and you get in what do you expect.

Surprised the police aren't shutting them down

 

[Nick]

With SATS cancelled you’d be forgiven for thinking Year 6’s and parents might not see the point in sending them back until September. I know there is the transition to think of but with secondary schools not opening it would be limited anyway. Only sad thing is about them having chance to say goodbye to primary school after 7 years.

Yeah exactly, what's the point for a couple of weeks to be off again.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Er they didn’t live there we were carers for years and this was a forced situation for one week for “respite” from a hospital - cheers for questioning my morality though about something you know nothing about - Jesus Christ

If that is the case I apologise.

But the point stands that if this is such an issue to you why as you so steadfastly behind an ethos that wants to privatise everything and make it all about profit rather than the service? This is where it leads. The way you vote has directly led to this awful situation.

It's been a long time since anyone mainstream thought the state should have control of everything but the dogma of putting free-market economics into vital services like care homes, health service, education, post, utilities, transport and infrastructure is very much alive and kicking and never leads to the benefits it's supposed to.

So how about thinking about this care home situation when putting the cross in that box next time.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

The private us company that has the contract to run the nhs ppe stockpile were incompetent it appears and couldn't manage it correctly

What a surprise. But hey, private enterprise makes things more efficient and better run.....

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I don’t have any experience of care homes, I’m not going to say much on that. But based on your comments, what is your opinion on the instruction to send covid positive patients into care homes?

The way I read it was there was no need for a negative test response, so basically if you don't test them they can't be refused as they've not tested positive for the disease.

If they truly wanted to protect the vulnerable then the first stipulation should be a negative test (even though this would only provide a snapshot.

I think the virus would've got in somehow anyway but the fact that it specifically said no negative test required shows that they didn't care at all about that and if you're more conspiratorial it could show an intention to let it spread to care homes.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

FP will know when it happened but there was a significant change when council home help services were contracted out. At that point service deteriorated dramatically and the communication between hospitals and out care - care homes or home help

Privatisation proving to be a bit shit then.....

 

[wingy]

Yeah exactly, what's the point for a couple of weeks to be off again.

Working parent's ?
Deprived kids
Abused kids

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

With SATS cancelled you’d be forgiven for thinking Year 6’s and parents might not see the point in sending them back until September. I know there is the transition to think of but with secondary schools not opening it would be limited anyway. Only sad thing is about them having chance to say goodbye to primary school after 7 years.

We have been asked to prep some live lesson content for incoming Year 7. Home science experiments it is

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I presume they didn't think the response would be so low. She's year 6 as well.

What sort of stuff is she going to be doing with them?