Would be interesting to see the evidence, tried googling it but the only thing that came up was the Royal College of Paediatricians saying media reports had been incorrectly suggested that children cannot transmit COVID-19 based on their research.As would I because if there is proof that children’s transmission rates are vastly lower than adults then I have much less opposition to coming in.
Within the summary, the authors refer to some findings produced by the China/World Health Organisation (WHO) joint commission: “Notably the China/WHO joint commission could not recall episodes during contact tracing where transmission occurred from a child to an adult”.
News outlets reported this finding, out of context, as the overall result of the review.
Whilst the review did not document any specific cases where a child to adult transmission occurred, it described several studies that offer contradictory evidence on the potential for transmission.
The review did not conclude that adults cannot catch the virus from children. It stated (at the time that the news articles were written) that “the role of children in passing the disease to others is unknown, in particular given large numbers of asymptomatic cases”.
Dr Alasdair Munro, one of the authors of the review, told us that “the quote is taken from the China/WHO joint commission and ignores all the other subsequent evidence which is completely consistent with child to adult transmission, albeit seemingly less than adult to adult transmission.”
The Royal College of Paediatricians and Child Health have issued a statement to stress that the news reports “have incorrectly suggested that children cannot transmit COVID-19. This is not the RCPCH position, nor is it based on evidence.”
OK what am I missing because I've read the article and this seems a fairly key line "All of the vaccinated monkeys treated with the Oxford vaccine became infected".You are deluded
I found Emirates to be terrible in economy. Singapore Airlines’ economy is actually not bad at all, went in business with them before as well and that was brilliant.As I found out. I b b honesty I have been on one emirates long haul to Dubai economy and that wasn’t too bad but then again their business class is out of this world
It looks like there is a possibility while it doesn't stop the momley from getting the virus the effects are far less.OK what am I missing because I've read the article and this seems a fairly key line "All of the vaccinated monkeys treated with the Oxford vaccine became infected".
I found Emirates to be terrible in economy. Singapore Airlines’ economy is actually not bad at all, went in business with them before as well and that was brilliant.
It looks like there is a possibility while it doesn't stop the momley from getting the virus the effects are far less.
If this is true in humans it ould help as FP says as a stop gap in that you could give it to people and while they still got the virus they would be far less ill.
They will need to tighten this up on the human trials and see if possible what happens with people with serious health conditions as it will be stupid if we give it to everyone and they end up killing their older relatives
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Also seems to suggest that it doesn't last very long so a key will be is it as effective when given again. That would also impact the ability to immunise everyone. Its a huge task to immunise millions in the first place let alone if you have to repeat it every few weeks.It looks like there is a possibility while it doesn't stop the momley from getting the virus the effects are far less.
If this is true in humans it ould help as FP says as a stop gap in that you could give it to people and while they still got the virus they would be far less ill.
They will need to tighten this up on the human trials and see if possible what happens with people with serious health conditions as it will be stupid if we give it to everyone and they end up killing their older relatives
Yep they need to see how long it works for but if it lasts say 6 months it would worth it but there is a long ling way to goAlso seems to suggest that it doesn't last very long so a key will be is it as effective when given again. That would also impact the ability to immunise everyone. Its a huge task to immunise millions in the first place let alone if you have to repeat it every few weeks.
Knowing this government they’d make the 30 million vaccines a) without testing it or b) know it doesn’t work but make it anyway.So much is riding on this oxford vaccine, will have 30 million doses ready by September if it works! Think we’ll know by July if it works
Really because I saw the same thing and it seemed to be that not enough evidence existed to make that conclusion definitively
I found Emirates to be terrible in economy. Singapore Airlines’ economy is actually not bad at all, went in business with them before as well and that was brilliant.
Try ASEAN airlines - what a dire experience. If in Africa avoid Mango airlines what a nightmare
They obviously won’tKnowing this government they’d make the 30 million vaccines a) without testing it or b) know it doesn’t work but make it anyway.
They obviously won’t
We don’t know till after the human trials which are taking place now, result is in June/JulyDo you accept that the evidence on this vaccine is that it isn’t fully effective?
We don’t know till after the human trials which are taking place now, result is in June/July
Unlike the 3 million antibody test kits they brought that didn't workThey obviously won’t
We're all good if there's a sudden outbreak of malaria though.Unlike the 3 million antibody test kits they brought that didn't work
Ah the malaria cure that lists one of it's aide effects as heart failureWe're all good if there's a sudden outbreak of malaria though.
UK pays £20m for Donald Trump's malaria drug 'Covid cure'
WtfWe're all good if there's a sudden outbreak of malaria though.
UK pays £20m for Donald Trump's malaria drug 'Covid cure'
They’re probably only trialing it to see if it’s safe in humans first, they won’t even be trialing it for effectiveness.We don’t know till after the human trials which are taking place now, result is in June/July
Yep safety trials are safety testingThey’re probably only trialing it to see if it’s safe in humans first, they won’t even be trialing it for effectiveness.
I’m afraid I won’t be rushing for a vaccine, that’s been knocked up inside a few months. If it hasn’t been tested on puppies & monkeys in cages for several years then it’s not for me just yet.
Don’t worry. I caught the backend of an interview with a spokesperson from the BMA this morning on the radio and the gist of it was that the government is blowing smoke up everyones arse. Even if they can get results in the lab (which as yet they can’t) there’s a rigorous testing regime so no way will it be available when government officials were trying to suggest yesterday it would be. It’s headline politics and cruel because it’s selling false hope.I’m afraid I won’t be rushing for a vaccine, that’s been knocked up inside a few months. If it hasn’t been tested on puppies & monkeys in cages for several years then it’s not for me just yet.
Frankly, I'd be more reassured by that, then by the government telling me it can be sorted in an unfeasibly short space of time. I can accept risk, and the need to manage risk, but I want realism and competence in managing that risk thankyou very much.Don’t worry. I caught the backend of an interview with a spokesperson from the BMA this morning on the radio and the gist of it was that the government is blowing smoke up everyones arse. Even if they can get results in the lab (which as yet they can’t) there’s a rigorous testing regime so no way will it be available when government officials were trying to suggest yesterday it would be. It’s headline politics and cruel because it’s selling false hope.
There is a section on the NHS website for clinical trials and basically there’s 4 stages to get through, the first being to see if it has an adverse reaction on humans. They start with a tiny dosage of the drug tested and build it up over a period of time while monitoring for adverse reactions, that’s all that will maybe be starting in June/July and that stage alone can take months depending on results. Once again the government are selling snake oil.Yep safety trials are safety testing
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Don’t think it was at the briefing, think it was a number of ministers in TV interviews throughout the day.Didn’t see yesterday’s “briefing”. Did they suggest a date for a vaccine? I wouldn’t be surprised with this lot if Matt Hancock has his kids (assuming he has any) vaccinated live on TV, bit like when Gummer fed his kids a burger during the mad cow crisis!
There is a section on the NHS website for clinical trials and basically there’s 4 stages to get through, the first being to see if it has an adverse reaction on humans. They start with a tiny dosage of the drug tested and build it up over a period of time while monitoring for adverse reactions, that’s all that will maybe be starting in June/July and that stage alone can take months depending on results. Once again the government are selling snake oil.
What’s that? Common sense you say Baby shower partygoers flee after lockdown breach “it doesn’t matter because the schools are going back in June”.
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