Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (6 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

there will be considerable relaxation of lock down restriction in the next 4-6 weeks.
I don't think the numbers will come in to it, they'll make them fit around the policy.

Yeah, it's been decided for economic and political reasons.



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[The coventrian]

What false fucking information, I said we tested more than yesterday which we did? What’s false about that?!?!?

I'd just give up. Some on here just hate the Tories that much I'm convinced they dont want the death rate to decline as it gives them more ammo. Utterly bizarre.

 

[clint van damme]

I'd just give up. Some on here just hate the Tories that much I'm convinced they dont want the death rate to decline as it gives them more ammo. Utterly bizarre.

and some of you love the tories so much you defend them even when their policies are killing people.

 

[shmmeee]

I've maintained all along that we've handled it badly. We did a half arsed herd immunity and then a half arsed lockdown.

I don't think many people can say we've come out of this smelling of roses.

My issues surround more the shady behaviour of other countries which include China and Germany.

- China: As I said, I'm not saying it was a man made virus, but I don't believe their figures and I certainly don't believe they tried hard to stop it spreading to the rest of the world. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are some dodgy goings on. They could have contained it pretty much in their own country.

- Germany: The correlation of deaths to cases is completely off the charts compared to pretty much any other country on the entire planet. Yet they don't seem to have many questions asked.

- Sweden: Behaved worse than we did, but on a global stage get far less stick than we do.

The whole thing is bizarre and you would think there would be some common ground between countries and sharing of information etc. Instead there is all kinds of secrecy and double standards going on. We should have been well prepared for this, and in fact we were well aware of what could happen thanks to other previous virus outbreaks. Just no one reacted. Why?

Are you seriously asking why citizens of the U.K. are complaining about the U.K. government response over the Swedish, German, or Chinese?

 

[shmmeee]

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

I'd just give up. Some on here just hate the Tories that much I'm convinced they dont want the death rate to decline as it gives them more ammo. Utterly bizarre.

The only person who's wanted people dead on here is you

 

[Ian1779]

More testing?? more cases?? ....

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

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More testing?? more cases?? ....

£1,000 fine for visitors from countries with no or barely any infections who don't quarantine, but some of those countries are offering to let us visit

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

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there will be considerable relaxation of lock down restriction in the next 4-6 weeks.
I don't think the numbers will come in to it, they'll make them fit around the policy.

We will need to loosen it, we need to learn to live with the virus or else there will be no jobs or money left, we need to find a safe balance

 

[Deleted member 5849]

£1,000 fine for visitors from countries with no or barely any infections who don't quarantine, but some of those countries are offering to let us visit

tbf, that's as backwards thinking from their POV as ours is waiting until now to do it.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

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More testing?? more cases?? ....

Yes we are testing more

 

[David O'Day]

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We will need to loosen it, we need to learn to live with the virus or else there will be no jobs or money left, we need to find a safe balance

Dominic lets not run away from answering why you repeatedly say more people are being tested when the dhsc own figures show this is not true

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[David O'Day]

Yes we are testing more

We are not testing more people.



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[clint van damme]

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We will need to loosen it, we need to learn to live with the virus or else there will be no jobs or money left, we need to find a safe balance

we probably will now. We can't keep the country shut and borrowing for furlough money and hand outs to the self employed.
We blew our chance at emulating what other countries have done. Lets hope for a miracle.

 

[David O'Day]

we probably will now. We can't keep the country shut and borrowing for furlough money and hand outs to the self employed.
We blew our chance at emulating what other countries have done. Lets hope for a miracle.

A dangerous second peak would be more economically damaging than extending the restrictions.


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[Brighton Sky Blue]

tbf, that's as backwards thinking from their POV as ours is waiting until now to do it.

It's bonkers on both accounts though one is at least driven by economic necessity instead of arrogance

 

[skybluetony176]

and some of you love the tories so much you defend them even when their policies are killing people.

I think Covtarian has a blood lust. White people in care homes, children in boats. He don’t care so long as people are needlessly dying.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Dominic lets not run away from answering why you repeatedly say more people are being tested when the dhsc own figures show this is not true

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‘Dominic’ looool

 

[skybluetony176]

I'd just give up. Some on here just hate the Tories that much I'm convinced they dont want the death rate to decline as it gives them more ammo. Utterly bizarre.

But you’re a moron. What ever it is you’re convinced of is a figment of your moronic imagination.

 

[David O'Day]

‘Dominic’ looool

Not going to answer as to why you knowing lie every single day?



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[David O'Day]

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[clint van damme]

A dangerous second peak would be more economically damaging than extending the restrictions.


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yeah, and could potentially put the NHS under the sort of pressure everyone was worried about at the start of the outbreak. But I don't think we've left ourselves with any option than to take a risk.
There was even someone from the Daily Mail on the radio earlier who refused to defend the part time PMs handling of the crisis. That just shows how bad it is.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Are you seriously asking why citizens of the U.K. are complaining about the U.K. government response over the Swedish, German, or Chinese?

No, I said across the world the UK gets worse press than Sweden on this.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

yeah, and could potentially put the NHS under the sort of pressure everyone was worried about at the start of the outbreak. But I don't think we've left ourselves with any option than to take a risk.
There was even someone from the Daily Mail on the radio earlier who refused to defend the part time PMs handling of the crisis. That just shows how bad it is.

We’re gonna have to find a balance

 

[clint van damme]

No, I said across the world the UK gets worse press than Sweden on this.

Seriously question - how do you monitor the worlds press?
Sweden moved to the top of the per capita death rates this week and it was quite widely reported in publications I've looked at.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

We’re gonna have to find a balance

What is an acceptable death rate, in your view?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

What is an acceptable death rate, in your view?

Obviously 0 but I can’t see how that is possible, I wouldn’t really like to put a number on it.... maybe similar to what spain and Italy are on?

 

[clint van damme]

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I have genuinely found this weeks figures a bit depressing. I honestly expected them to be better than they have been.

 

[fernandopartridge]

we probably will now. We can't keep the country shut and borrowing for furlough money and hand outs to the self employed.
We blew our chance at emulating what other countries have done. Lets hope for a miracle.

You're falling into a trap here, the furlough money and support for self employed is the only thing keeping the economy going as there is and still will be limited demand otherwise.

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Obviously 0 but I can’t see how that is possible, I wouldn’t really like to put a number on it.... maybe similar to what spain and Italy are on?

I would hope for at least something below 100. Though Greece with its busted economy is at practically 0 already

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Seriously question - how do you monitor the worlds press?
Sweden moved to the top of the per capita death rates this week and it was quite widely reported in publications I've looked at.

I've read so many articles blasting the UK, mainly because I've got many friends (In Czech Republic, Germany, Russia, Spain, Netherlands, and Turkey to name a few) that have regularly been in touch asking what on earth is going on.

Quite a bit of the media I've seen is actively mocking us and they include articles about tory politicians that aren't even Boris.

Compare that with Sweden, and whilst I have seen critical articles, it is nowhere near on the scale than what we have had.

 

[shmmeee]

No, I said across the world the UK gets worse press than Sweden on this.

The U.K. has done a worse job than Sweden so far AFAIK. But Sweden’s had loads of criticism for relying on people to distance themselves and not forcing lockdown.

 

[Ian1779]

Funny how people talk about an acceptable death rate when it’s not them or their loved ones dying.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Seriously question - how do you monitor the worlds press?
Sweden moved to the top of the per capita death rates this week and it was quite widely reported in publications I've looked at.

The Guardian's been quite critical of their satrategy, to name but one so-called lefty rag...

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Funny how people talk about an acceptable death rate when it’s not them or their loved ones dying.

That’s why I said 0?