Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (8 Viewers)

[PVA]

Listening to Stephen Baker's interview on BBC Sunday morning, (I'm fairly sure he was the first Tory to go public with criticism), he basically said Cummings is not as influential as people think. Was he telling the truth though?

He must be incredibly influential, or surely they would have just sacked him rather than go through this whole carry on with the Prime Minister and Cabinet basically admitting that they value him over public health guidance.

Either Cummings has a load of dirt on them all (quite possible) or Boris literally cannot run the country without him (also quite possible).

 

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[djr8369]

He must be incredibly influential, or surely they would have just sacked him rather than go through this whole carry on with the Prime Minister and Cabinet basically admitting that they value him over public health guidance.

Either Cummings has a load of dirt on them all (quite possible) or Boris literally cannot run the country without him (also quite possible).

Something certainly isn’t right. They are falling over themselves to rewrite history and lie to the public to protect him. Having said that, from why I’ve seen, half the public are clapping along and calling Cummings a legend. They just view it as their “side” winning against the MSM so maybe the government don’t feel it’s a risk at all, arguably it will galvanise them further.


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[hill83]

wheres @hill83!!

Should never have gone ahead and I wish I didn’t go.
Almost cancelled going but everyone knew better at the time and peer pressure worked. 100% where I got ill from.

 

[skyblueinBaku]

Yeah the hate for the media from the Brexiters and Johnson fan boys is now visceral so they need to conduct themselves with the upmost integrity and not give them any ammunition.


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*Utmost*

 

[clint van damme]

Something certainly isn’t right. They are falling over themselves to rewrite history and lie to the public to protect him. Having said that, from why I’ve seen, half the public are clapping along and calling Cummings a legend. They just view it as their “side” winning against the MSM so maybe the government don’t feel it’s a risk at all, arguably it will galvanise them further.


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he lives in a big North London house, his wife comes from aristocracy and writes for the main stream media and his parents live on a fair sized north east estate.
Anyone who thinks he's anti MSM, anti elite is an absolute fucking cretin.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Oh boo fucking hoo.

The right really are the pathetic snowflakes that they claim to hate.

I hope it was humiliating, excruciating and cruel for him. It wasn't though because he's an arrogant, callous arsehole.

What is excruciating and cruel is people not being allowed to visit their relatives before they died, while this prick was off out celebrating his wife's birthday.

I can't believe you're trying to play the sympathy card for Cummings, utterly pathetic.

He got to where he was by spreading all kinds of lies and misinformation. Yesterday was like a Twitter troll being made to go outside-awkward, weedy and socially inept.

 

[djr8369]

he lives in a big North London house, his wife comes from aristocracy and writes for the main stream media and his parents live on a fair sized north east estate.
Anyone who thinks he's anti MSM, anti elite is an absolute fucking cretin.

But millions buy into it completely


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[Brighton Sky Blue]

he lives in a big North London house, his wife comes from aristocracy and writes for the main stream media and his parents live on a fair sized north east estate.
Anyone who thinks he's anti MSM, anti elite is an absolute fucking cretin.

Steady now you’ll be called a sneering lefty

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Listening to Stephen Baker's interview on BBC Sunday morning, (I'm fairly sure he was the first Tory to go public with criticism), he basically said Cummings is not as influential as people think. Was he telling the truth though?

If he's not influential, he'd have surely been cast aside by now, though?

(Unless there's a cunning plan! Now, where's that app?)

 

[shmmeee]

A lot of perfectly intelligent, rational people get caught up in it. I did myself for years until I realised it was just driving everyone apart and was largely manufactured.

I’ve got a couple of close mates who are smart guys who have been drawn into all of the criticism of the LGBTQ communities. The gateway for them? Jordan fucking Peterson and the rabbit whole of American libertarian YouTube that sends you down. (That kind of stuff needs it’s own thread).


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Yep. Seen a couple of mates go that way. Anti-SJW stuff is always the gateway.

 

[David O'Day]

Gove has been really really shit.

The tories seem to think he's really good at things like this.

He isn't and his objectionable personality makes people turn against him.

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[David O'Day]

Yep. Seen a couple of mates go that way. Anti-SJW stuff is always the gateway.

I know a lad like that

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[djr8369]

Yep. Seen a couple of mates go that way. Anti-SJW stuff is always the gateway.

Yep, it’s always the SJW stuff. As I said, needs a thread. I got close to being caught up in it years ago and have seen reasonable friends buy into it completely.


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[PVA]

Gove has been really really shit.

The tories seem to think he's really good at things like this.

He isn't and his objectionable personality makes people turn against him.

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Seems the obvious candidate to replace Johnson when he inevitably goes (sooner rather than later you'd imagine).

Yay. Lucky us.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I'm getting bombarded with emails from Ryanair about holidays with a lot of European borders open from July 1st.

Problem is that work are forcing me to take 50% of my holiday by the end of June.

They then say that we are lucky to still have jobs and shouldn't complain as we could have been furloughed.

Absolute joke. Even the people in my company that have been furloughed can actually go on holiday, but I'm a prisoner in my own country!

 

[djr8369]

I'm getting bombarded with emails from Ryanair about holidays with a lot of European borders open from July 1st.

Problem is that work are forcing me to take 50% of my holiday by the end of June.

They then say that we are lucky to still have jobs and shouldn't complain as we could have been furloughed.

Absolute joke. Even the people in my company that have been furloughed can actually go on holiday, but I'm a prisoner in my own country!

Apparently if you’re furloughed you technically haven’t taken the bank holidays and get them when you come back to work?


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[skybluetony176]

First resignation...

Spitter!

 

[Sumo the Micky Quinn]

I'm getting bombarded with emails from Ryanair about holidays with a lot of European borders open from July 1st.

Problem is that work are forcing me to take 50% of my holiday by the end of June.

They then say that we are lucky to still have jobs and shouldn't complain as we could have been furloughed.

Absolute joke. Even the people in my company that have been furloughed can actually go on holiday, but I'm a prisoner in my own country!

Spain is opening its international boards in July (no exact date given) to allow tourists from Germany and France. We have had no news about opening the border to allow UK tourists in.
Most businesses in my town rely on UK and Irish tourist only.

 

[hill83]

I'm a prisoner in my own country!

Settle down. Could be worse.

There’s a castle in Durham apparently.

 

[PVA]

But but bestest approval rating ever!

 

[David O'Day]

But but bestest approval rating ever!

But but grendal said

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[skybluetony176]

I see Peter Bone has been calling it straight on Julia Hartley-Brewers radio show this morning. Basically said regardless of what spin they put on it he broke the rules. That’s a Brexit campaigner in agreement with another Brexit campaigner that he broke the rules. These morons trying to make out it’s about Brexit need to either wise up or shut up.

 

[skybluetony176]

I see trip advisor has had to suspend new reviews on Barnard Castle following a wave of come and have your eyes tested, great place to escape Covid, great place to take your wife on her birthday type comments.

 

[olderskyblue]

Listening to Stephen Baker's interview on BBC Sunday morning, (I'm fairly sure he was the first Tory to go public with criticism), he basically said Cummings is not as influential as people think. Was he telling the truth though?

Given how he admitted he makes many mistakes each day, then I sincerely hope not....

 

[SIR ERNIE]

We are close to saying fuck it we’ll go to Greece if the flight is still going regardless of what the government is saying in mid July.

You’d feel comfortable spending several hours at a busy airport, then a further four hours on a plane within a few feet of other people??

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You’d feel comfortable spending several hours at a busy airport, then a further four hours on a plane within a few feet of other people??

Considering all the hours spent in shops since mid March with people not following the rules, yes. Particularly to ultimately go to a country with far less of a problem with the disease than we do.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

You’d feel comfortable spending several hours at a busy airport, then a further four hours on a plane within a few feet of other people??

Yeah, that's what I don't get with all these holiday plans. Everybody reacts differently, of course, but the thought of being holed up somewhere, either having to queue for supermarket just in a different place, or having a socially distanced bar experience just doesn't appeal to me.

I guess I can understand camping or something (you get the miserable torment experience then anyway!) but the rest is just going to be a pale shadow, and remind me of what I could have had.

I'd rather wait until it's close-ish to normal and I can go to a restaurant safe that I won't have a masked waiter gesticulating furiously at my plate of food, set for me to go over and collect for myself!

And that's before any hassle crossing borders, or finding public toilets on the way that are open and usable...

 

[stupot07]

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[clint van damme]

ONS figures released.
Bad news - 47,000 deaths total.
Good news - deaths on the decline.

 

[David O'Day]

Considering all the hours spent in shops since mid March with people not following the rules, yes. Particularly to ultimately go to a country with far less of a problem with the disease than we do.

Yep why be worried about going to a country that even though is still at government level poor as fuck handled the pandemic a hundred times better than us?

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yep why be worried about going to a country that even though is still at government level poor as fuck handled the pandemic a hundred times better than us?

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They had one new case yesterday, 2 deaths.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

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Don’t forget Stu there’s no evidence at all that we’re the worst on the continent

 

[David O'Day]

They had one new case yesterday, 2 deaths.

Would you rather be in italy though

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[Liquid Gold]

Cummings but be really hated by rank and file Tories for them to keep on him like this. No way that resignation wasn't timed to keep the story at the top of the cycle.

I don't see where people think Johnson is resigning though, have you not been paying attention? Politicians can do what they want.

 

[PVA]

Would you rather be in italy though

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Seems we should have had Russian troops on the street to enforce lockdown like Italy did