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The schtick is getting a bit tiresome now
The schtick is getting a bit tiresome nowOh dear, the who trying to make people live in fear for the foreseeable future, no thanks most people actually want to start living again and going out and doing things
There's much worse going on then thatThis afternoon I witnessed 10 guys playing footy with tops of. Footy tennis, one of the teams won to huge roars, chest pumps, hugs, even a pile on. They then stood up, went over the the opposition and did the fist pump we now see instead of a handshake. Hilarious. Oh how I howled. Oh wait no, it's fucking shambolic
Oh aye but it just made me laugh. Bare chest sweaty hugging but respectfully fist pumping after. Thick twats prob seen footballers do it on tele and dunno whyThere's much worse going on then that
Easy tiger - I’d probably just close the beach before you start going all Rambo.Do you think we should water cannon them - you seem to believe in state control
Oh aye but it just made me laugh. Bare chest sweaty hugging but respectfully fist pumping after. Thick twats prob seen footballers do it on tele and dunno why
What I’m trying to get my head around is that everyone has been saying that we were going to get hit with second waves after VE Day, people going to the beaches, BLM protests, lockdown raves, football celebrations etc. but they seem not to have caused any spikes at all.This afternoon I witnessed 10 guys playing footy with tops of. Footy tennis, one of the teams won to huge roars, chest pumps, hugs, even a pile on. They then stood up, went over the the opposition and did the fist pump we now see instead of a handshake. Hilarious. Oh how I howled. Oh wait no, it's fucking shambolic
What I’m trying to get my head around is that everyone has been saying that we were going to get hit with second waves after VE Day, people going to the beaches, BLM protests, lockdown raves, football celebrations etc. but they seem not to have caused any spikes at all.
The common denominator? They’ve all taken place outside! It does seem that the virus spreading when outdoors is negligible.
Constantly bringing up second waves and saying about how countries are lifting too early, didn’t they cover it up in the first place
Wait and see. Autumn will be interesting. Cooler and ought and colds.What I’m trying to get my head around is that everyone has been saying that we were going to get hit with second waves after VE Day, people going to the beaches, BLM protests, lockdown raves, football celebrations etc. but they seem not to have caused any spikes at all.
The common denominator? They’ve all taken place outside! It does seem that the virus spreading when outdoors is negligible.
But they will take it to others.Considering the message/evidence that U45's are pretty much bulletproof he can probably get away with it
Difficult for the other categories.
Is that Alan Brazil bottom right?
Not sure I subscribe to this.Always has been unless you are massively packed in like they were at the Racing. Things like the BLM protests and Football Celebrations also saw people wearing masks that mitigates the danger.
Constantly bringing up second waves and saying about how countries are lifting too early, didn’t they cover it up in the first place
USA is crazy, they didn’t even get on top of it and they opened up everywhere looks like there gonna be the new BrazilBecause they're a HEALTH organisation. It's their job to consider the health implications of these actions. Not the economic ones. Only reason they'd be looking at the economics side is affect on mental health from lack of income etc.
And I don't think it's fair to say they covered it up. Their response wasn't perfect and questions need to be asked about their response to China as one of the main contributors (although questions also need to be asked about China's openness that could've prevented such a large outbreak). They probably prevent loads of outbreaks of this magnitude by nipping them in the bud before we even hear of them. If the public heard of half of the things that could potentially spread without orgs like WHO keeping a watchful eye half of them would be too afraid to step out of the door.
Plus these warnings do have increasing credence. Places are starting to see rises in cases again after lifting restrictions. The US opened up at the peak and it looks like being an absolute horror show there - they're going to have a very very long battle with it because Trump will never take it seriously as money is more important than lives.
That’s brilliantI'm sure Johnson is enjoying seeing the packed beaches...
"Johnson told business leaders: “The real hero of Jaws is the mayor, a wonderful politician. A gigantic fish is eating all your constituents and he decides to keep the beach open.
“OK, in that instance, he was wrong but in principle we need more politicians like the mayor.”
He followed the comments up in an article, saying: “There was one laudable thing about him, and that was his refusal to give way to hysteria.
“I loved his rationality. Of course, it turned out that he was wrong. But it remains that he was heroically right in principle.”"
Bizarre Boris Johnson comments resurface – and they could explain a lot
Are you being ironic?USA is crazy, they didn’t even get on top of it and they opened up everywhere
He thinks irony is something a bit like ironAre you being ironic?
The track and trace folly is awful. It could very well be that not one person on the beach is Covid positive and therefore people as on here will say look there was no spike so we can do what we like. Which of course without a track and trace system will make an outbreak pretty much a certainty going forward. And if people aren’t traced these won’t be limited waves but national ones. This is a statistical certainty that I hope all can see what the issue is
Not sure I subscribe to this.
Not sure if you went to the celebrations in town but I did and I would hazard a guess at that less than 5% of people were wearing masks and there was not only a mass concentration of people in and around the Lady Godiva statue there was also plenty of handshaking, hugging and chanting and singing yet no significant spike happened.
The same as the BLM protests and the "Save our Statues" numptys, although some were wearing masks the majority from the footage I have seen weren't and certainly at the bigger protests, in London for example, social distancing definitely was not happening and they were massively packed in!
Also, if it is so negligible why are so many people getting upset about going to the beach or playing 5-aside? Surely if it is negligible then you could open up outdoor sports pitches, have outdoor cinemas, gigs and even open up outdoor sports grounds on reduced capacities?
The majority of my mates working on building sites and I don't know a single one of them, or their families, who have had it. I have a handful of mates who work in offices and I know at least one of them who has had it.
If the evidence is pointing to indoor transmissions and having to be in the presence of someone for 15 minutes then a lot of these activities are relatively harmless.
These pictures show you exactly why our track and trace system is useless. If you test positive you're supposed to get a call and then tell them everyone you've been in contact with. Do all the people on that beach have the contact details of everyone they were close to so they can pass them on to track and trace if needed?The track and trace folly is awful.
Not statistically no. Obviously the probability increases where you are and the higher number of people in the location.To be honest, if there isn't a single case within all those thousands of people it can't be that infectious. There was thousands of them, if it was that rife you would think at least a handful would have it without knowing.
I agree with that tooThese pictures show you exactly why our track and trace system is useless. If you test positive you're supposed to get a call and then tell them everyone you've been in contact with. Do all the people on that beach have the contact details of everyone they were close to so they can pass them on to track and trace if needed?
If only you could have some sort of app on your phone that would do it automatically. Why has nobody thought of that?
Not sure I subscribe to this.
Not sure if you went to the celebrations in town but I did and I would hazard a guess at that less than 5% of people were wearing masks and there was not only a mass concentration of people in and around the Lady Godiva statue there was also plenty of handshaking, hugging and chanting and singing yet no significant spike happened.
The same as the BLM protests and the "Save our Statues" numptys, although some were wearing masks the majority from the footage I have seen weren't and certainly at the bigger protests, in London for example, social distancing definitely was not happening and they were massively packed in!
Also, if it is so negligible why are so many people getting upset about going to the beach or playing 5-aside? Surely if it is negligible then you could open up outdoor sports pitches, have outdoor cinemas, gigs and even open up outdoor sports grounds on reduced capacities?
The majority of my mates working on building sites and I don't know a single one of them, or their families, who have had it. I have a handful of mates who work in offices and I know at least one of them who has had it.
If the evidence is pointing to indoor transmissions and having to be in the presence of someone for 15 minutes then a lot of these activities are relatively harmless.
This isn’t how stats work but fag packet maths so bare with me.
Last I saw roughly 1 in 1700 have the virus, so you’d need a gathering of more than 1700 to be likely to get infected. I doubt there were that many at most parties/protests. At the beach maybe but people tend to be static and distanced anyway at the beach. Not sure obviously not an epidemiologist but seems reasonable assumptions to me.
That is not how it works though. If 1 in 1700 have the virus it doesn't mean you need to have more than 1700 somewhere or you need to meet 1700 before can get the virus.
It's just chance, you could have 5 people at a gathering and 4 of them could have the virus.
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