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Picking up twice hasn't been proven or disproven yet.
Picking up twice hasn't been proven or disproven yet.Is it reasonably agreed that kids are basically invincible to this, you can't spread it following being infected and you can't pick it up twice yet?
If so couldn't you just throw a massive pox party for all the kids, supervised by adults that have recovered, then once they've got it and get better they won't be taking back to kill their grandparents?
Picking up twice hasn't been proven or disproven yet.
Not true you are most infectious when you have symptoms. You are infectious about 3 days before and 10 days agree but the curve peaks when you have symptoms (if you have symptoms!!!!!)The argument made was the student had not been in for a few days. But you are most infectious before the symptoms even appear, so there’s no logic in it.
Summer camps would have been the option.
Afraid parents would be too cautious to facilitate this.
Then who would supervise it?
There is no confirmed immunity from having the virus. This has been known since MarchPicking up twice hasn't been proven or disproven yet.
Not true you are most infectious when you have symptoms. You are infectious about 3 days before and 10 days agree but the curve peaks when you have symptoms (if you have symptoms!!!!!)
Is it reasonably agreed that kids are basically invincible to this, you can't spread it following being infected and you can't pick it up twice yet?
If so couldn't you just throw a massive pox party for all the kids, supervised by adults that have recovered, then once they've got it and get better they won't be taking back to kill their grandparents?
Ah yep absolutely correct!!!I meant they likely had onset of symptoms while still in school. Badly phrased
Yeah it looks like there are really nasty long term consequences. One thing I can't understand is the bit I highlighted. How do they know this is permanent, obviously it's not even been around for 12 months so how do they know the organs won't recover given time, particularly the liver as it regenerates.I don't think anybody knows anything for sure, also starting to look like a lot of people will have side effects if they catch it & recover- Chronic Fatigue Syndrome & nasty stuff like that, which is why its not all about just looking at death rates, there are healthy young people who had it, recovered, but then can't walk up the stairs a few months down the line, permanent liver, lung & heart damage- loads of unknowns yet.
Most people give their real names though.
We do know for sure and have known since the outset that there is no immunity after having had the virus.I don't think anybody knows anything for sure, also starting to look like a lot of people will have side effects if they catch it & recover- Chronic Fatigue Syndrome & nasty stuff like that, which is why its not all about just looking at death rates, there are healthy young people who had it, recovered, but then can't walk up the stairs a few months down the line, permanent liver, lung & heart damage- loads of unknowns yet.
We do know for sure and have known since the outset that there is no immunity after having had the virus.
We do know for sure and have known since the outset that there is no immunity after having had the virus.
Yeah it looks like there are really nasty long term consequences. One thing I can't understand is the bit I highlighted. How do they know this is permanent, obviously it's not even been around for 12 months so how do they know the organs won't recover given time, particularly the liver as it regenerates.
Oh Im' sure they do....I was being a little facetious tbh.
That said, the point kinda stands. Theres a wetherspoons in liverpool that has reported 12 cases amongst staff.....the wider problem is that these staff have in all likelyhood been infected for a good week or so (the first 2 staff cases were reported 10 days before the next 10)
during that week they've come into contact with hundreds of folk, many of whom were officially not even customers of spoons, but were in the shared outside area surrounded on all 4 sides by bars which had several thousand partying in it throughout the weekend......
We're doomed.
Yeah. I'd personally pin my long term hopes on anti viral treatment, along with natural weakening. We don't seem to hear about any developments of the former however, it's all vaccine.If that is correct a vaccine would be nearly impossible
Antibodies wear off,but Tcells retain memory?If that is correct a vaccine would be nearly impossible
Is it reasonably agreed that kids are basically invincible to this, you can't spread it following being infected and you can't pick it up twice yet?
If so couldn't you just throw a massive pox party for all the kids, supervised by adults that have recovered, then once they've got it and get better they won't be taking back to kill their grandparents?
Assume that's the one near Alma de CubaOh Im' sure they do....I was being a little facetious tbh.
That said, the point kinda stands. Theres a wetherspoons in liverpool that has reported 12 cases amongst staff.....the wider problem is that these staff have in all likelyhood been infected for a good week or so (the first 2 staff cases were reported 10 days before the next 10)
during that week they've come into contact with hundreds of folk, many of whom were officially not even customers of spoons, but were in the shared outside area surrounded on all 4 sides by bars which had several thousand partying in it throughout the weekend......
We're doomed.
Yeah. I'd personally pin my long term hopes on anti viral treatment, along with natural weakening. We don't seem to hear about any developments of the former however, it's all vaccine.
I’ll come back on this.I have friends involved and one of the reasons herd immunity was rejected was that we have no guarantee of immunity having had the virus. I have clearly not understood what they were saying as well as i thought thoughHow Long Does Immunity Last After COVID-19? What We Know
Here’s what we currently know about how long people may be immune after they recover from COVID-19 or get the vaccine.www.healthline.com
Antibodies wear off,but Tcells retain memory?
I’ll come back on this.I have friends involved and one of the reasons herd immunity was rejected was that we have no guarantee of immunity having had the virus. I have clearly not understood what they were saying as well as i thought though
I’m not eitherHerd immunity was a massive mistake- you need enough people to be immune (we had no idea if anyone was immune), and/or a vaccine to introduce immunity, nobody has either. Now it seems that you're not immune even if you have had it, you cam get it a few months down the line, so in that case no vaccine= no herd immunity, and we have to learn to live with it, manage it & come up with new/ more effective treatments. I am not a doctor by any means but my money would be on more effective treatments coming way before a vaccine.
Herd immunity was a massive mistake- you need enough people to be immune (we had no idea if anyone was immune), and/or a vaccine to introduce immunity, nobody has either. Now it seems that you're not immune even if you have had it, you can get it a few months down the line after recovering, so in that case no vaccine= no herd immunity, and we have to learn to live with it, manage it & come up with new/ more effective treatments. I am not a doctor by any means but my money would be on more effective treatments coming way before a vaccine. We haven't got a cure for the common cold yet, there was no vaccine for things like swine flu was there? So I don't see how we can suddenly magic up with a vaccine for whats being called the most complex & mystifying virus ever to descend upon mankind.
A vaccine that makes everyone asymptomatic (as approx half of people infected already are) is probably the best bet, then antiviral if we’re really stuck.
A vaccine that makes everyone asymptomatic (as approx half of people infected already are) is probably the best bet, then antiviral if we’re really stuck.
Good questionWould that mean those vulnerable wouldn’t show symptoms or what? Basically what’s functionally the difference between immunity and not having symptoms?
Was that the intention of the Oxford vaccine? Seems pretty smart- if you can't get rid of it then make it way less harmful
Would that mean those vulnerable wouldn’t show symptoms or what? Basically what’s functionally the difference between immunity and not having symptoms?
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