Sick Boy
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Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (14 Viewers)
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Let's see
1. Oversaw the worst death toll from COVID on the continent by allowing it to run riot in care homes and by not locking down anywhere near soon enough. Couldn't be bothered to enforce restrictions even when they were introduced.
2. Told a pack of lies on Brexit which are already coming to roost and has put the union in its weakest position possibly since it was founded
3. Schools-nuff sed
4. Breaking the law last year to force through his Brexit proposal, and trying to break international law this year to get around his shit deal on Northern Ireland
5. Failing to bin off Cummings after he broke the COVID rules in absurd fashion
6. Binning off anyone competent from the Cabinet based on their Brexit stance
Honestly I could go on for quite a while and he's barely been in office a year-he's a national embarrassment who should be nowhere near No. 10
Pretty disgraceful really. I was less than impressed when Johnson talked about people not following rules this week (as I think as a country we have followed measures pretty well overall, especially during lockdown) but guessing this is what he was talking about.
Two caveats. I can’t imagine people leaving the house and going for a walk outside with a mask on as being a huge risk. Also a quirk with the trace and track text system whereby you need to continue to isolate for the full 14 days even if your test comes back as negative and you dont have symtoms. Weird !
Surely two weeks, to both protect others at higher risk, as well as also minimise risk of a further stiricter lockdown for everyone, is not too much to ask though !
ps waiting for various people to crunch numbers of new employment scheme but despite some negative comments on here, seen positive responses from TUC and CBI. No scheme is going to be without it’s faults (it feels a bit clunky) but hopefully it will help keep large numbers borderline redundancies in work. As already mentioned on here though, one major issue is elements of hospitality that can’t operate at all (due to government measures) such as nightclubs and theatres, don’t appear to be getting any help....hope this is to follow.
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Let me guess you voted remain...
The death toll is only so high because we record deaths diffrent to everywhere bar America, give it a few years after the virus has cleared and it will come out the true statistics.
fernandopartridge
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Probably but she's atrocious
fernandopartridge
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You talk utter shit
David O'Day
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The TUC say it's a step in the right direction but not enough.
How is a scheme were the government cuts the amount it helps out by from 80% to 22% going to stop redundancies? It's simply not
David O'Day
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No she's backed the fact there is a scheme and not the previous plan to end it in November full stop.
Why because I don't hate on the government? The only 2 reason this country is fucked from the virus is
#1 China
#2 who
Brighton Sky Blue
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He has broken most of his Brexit promises, if I were a Leave voter I wouldn't be happy either. If you're going to defend his record now I guess you always will. Funny thing is though while you call me out on voting Remain I did also vote to keep the union together in 2014 and this clown has made it nearly a certainty that Scotland, NI or both will be gone before the decade's up.
His shit handling of COVID and Brexit have made that happen. If I were a Union Jack waver I'd consider that next time I'm in the polling booth
Brighton Sky Blue
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All credibility lost in not many words-impressive
Facts, if China didn't lie the world would of been alot better prepared, w of who actually looked into the evidence they were given back in October 2019 the world would of been much better prepared.
Brighton Sky Blue
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We're an island nation, had more than enough advance warning and still got the worst death toll in Europe. Your response is to then say the data is false and it's China's fault. Look at New Zealand for how much better we could've done-far from praising Johnson the twat should be on trial for how badly he's done this year. Even Dom smelled the coffee
Grendel
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The island nation is a red herring when comparing to New Zealand. You fly to New Zealand you stay - we are a huge hub travel area. Also we are reliant on constant imports and still allow eu freedom of movement.
The furlough scheme was set up so businesses would retain staff to ensure a quick bounce back from the lockdown. There isn’t currently a lockdown so for example pubs and restaurants can operate, albeit under certain measures.
There will be a lot of redundancies, no doubt about it, I suppose the question being weighed up is would those redundancies happen anyway on 3-4 months if the full furlough scheme was still in place
Although there are other assistance measures, I’d like to see a couple of sector specific ones for those that can’t operate due to the government restrictions
Brighton Sky Blue
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It's a massive advantage compared to most other countries on the continent though G. Greece did far better and is a financial wreck with far more islands to administer plus the land borders. We could easily have insisted on a quarantine for non-UK citizens-it's time we stopped making excuses for why we did a shit job and just admit we did a shit job. It cannot always just be somebody else's fault
The same new Zealand that has like 3x our land mass and only 15% our population. Move on.
Brighton Sky Blue
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I can pick pretty much any country that did a better job than we did and you'd have an excuse 'oven ready'.
Yes I would, because I'm not a dipshit, I understand what has happened to every single country around the world.
Brighton Sky Blue
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And the way he has done that has broken the union-great work
Brighton Sky Blue
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You're not meant to admit that bit. How was Greece able to keep deaths to 150 over the time where we racked up 40,000? Is that China's fault or the WHO?
skybluetony176
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Covtarian?
What are the chances the #'s out of Greece have been reported the same way they have been in this country? Little story for you my aunt's dad died about 3 months ago from a heart attack after suffering for about 8 years with a heart condition can you guess what his cause of death was? Feel free to have a guess.
Indeed cv2.
Malaka
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I was talking to a guy about maxwell after she was arrested. He turned and said if she starts talking, Obama, Bill and Hillary Clinton will go to jail. They drink children's blood, cut of their faces and wear them while having sex, I said to him do you not realise that they are democrats and that is Republican bullshit? he said 'it's true, it's on YouTube' I walked away
Brighton Sky Blue
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Hahaha of course, the Greeks have had tens of thousands die from COVID and not reported it. You can't hide behind the excess death figures though, for this country they were horrendous-though of course there'll be another excuse on the way. Next you'll be telling me Hancock's done a decent job
Brighton Sky Blue
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More like Dom's long lost brother
No excuse but the fact of the matter is every country reports deaths diffrently.
fernandopartridge
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Have you ever looked at a death certificate?
Brighton Sky Blue
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I think if Greece had tens of thousands dying instead of hundreds someone would have noticed. The way it's been handled in this country has been almost criminal but there's still reliable numpties like you defending it.
Sick Boy
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Fucking hell.
Considering I've lost both my parents I have indeed. Would you like to know what they say?
fernandopartridge
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How did you know your uncle died of a heart attack yet his cause of death apparently was covid? How was this presented on the death certificate?