Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (112 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Do you mean this one?

Leak reveals possible harsher three-tier England Covid plan

Exclusive: government documents suggest potential pub closures and stricter social contact rules

www.theguardian.com

worst thing is in that report it says the 15k "backlog" weren't transferred on to a computer adn weren't available to contact tracers

Yeah I meant that one

 

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[chiefdave]

What a surprise. “children and young adults were found to be potentially much more important to transmitting the virus — especially within households — than previous studies have identified”.

Largest COVID-19 contact tracing study to date finds children key to spread, evidence of superspreaders

Researchers from the Princeton Environmental Institute find the continued spread of novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 is driven by only a small percentage of those who become infected.

www.princeton.edu

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What a surprise. “children and young adults were found to be potentially much more important to transmitting the virus — especially within households — than previous studies have identified”.

Largest COVID-19 contact tracing study to date finds children key to spread, evidence of superspreaders

Researchers from the Princeton Environmental Institute find the continued spread of novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 is driven by only a small percentage of those who become infected.

www.princeton.edu

No shit

 

[David O'Day]

FYI - yesterday in walsgrave hospital 0 people in for Covid. Just to say that again. 0 in.

FYI your information this is complete bollocks, I asked a someone who worked there.

You don't know anyone who works there as loads of them are foreign or not white and you hate people like that.

 

[fernandopartridge]

FYI your information this is complete bollocks, I asked a someone who worked there.

You don't know anyone who works there as loads of them are foreign or not white and you hate people like that.

One of the consultants was in the Telegraph last week saying they'd got 4 in ICU and a few more elsewhere

 

[David O'Day]

One of the consultants was in the Telegraph last week saying they'd got 4 in ICU and a few more elsewhere

Exactly it's madness to believe there would be no Covid patients in a hospital that size. It doesn't just take the very ill from Coventry.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Manchester has 495 cases per 100k, suspect it's generally down to the return of students

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Manchester has 495 cases per 100k, suspect it's generally down to the return of students

How many are confirmed in the unis?

 

[CCFCSteve]

Manchester has 495 cases per 100k, suspect it's generally down to the return of students

Wow, that’s massive. Probably something to do with it. Saw over the weekend that Northumbria Uni had 770 cases !

Sure I read something like 90% of those uni cases we’re asymptomatic (don’t quote me). Just hope they isolated and kept away from higher risk/elderly. If so, and as long as the hospital admissions (and inturn deaths) aren’t spiking in the same way then hopefully it won’t be a major concern.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

and kept away from higher risk/elderly.

Alas, that isn't going to happen.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Wow, that’s massive. Probably something to do with it. Saw over the weekend that Northumbria Uni had 770 cases !

Sure I read something like 90% of those uni cases we’re asymptomatic (don’t quote me). Just hope they isolated and kept away from higher risk/elderly. If so, and as long as the hospital admissions (and inturn deaths) aren’t spiking in the same way then hopefully it won’t be a major concern.

If that % is true you can’t really blame them particularly as they are confined to campus

 

[fernandopartridge]

How many are confirmed in the unis?

Don't recall number but did hear something about a big spike of student cases. You can map it on the gis system PHE publish, cases all around the Oxford Rd corridor and Fallowfield

 

[CCFCSteve]

Alas, that isn't going to happen.

I don’t see why not. unlikely to 100% but it’s not as if it’s end of term and they’re all heading home for Xmas. It’s probably happened at the right time in that sense

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I don’t see why not. unlikely to 100% but it’s not as if it’s end of term and they’re all heading home for Xmas. It’s probably happened at the right time in that sense

Also probs best before flu properly kicks off. Have a doctor friend who has seen it turn nasty when someone has both

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I don’t see why not.

I can tell you it's not.

 

[skybluetony176]

£10B spent (given to your mates) on a world beating track and trace system that’s anything but and the reason that 16K haven’t been recorded, tracked and traced is because no one noticed that the XL spreadsheet had maxed out. This has got to be fake news, surely.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

£10B spent (given to your mates) on a world beating track and trace system that’s anything but and the reason that 16K haven’t been recorded, tracked and traced is because no one noticed that the XL spreadsheet had maxed out. This has got to be fake news, surely.

That’s surely enough for another 20 seats added to the majority

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

FYI your information this is complete bollocks, I asked a someone who worked there.

You don't know anyone who works there as loads of them are foreign or not white and you hate people like that.

Playing the race card for the umpteenth time. That's all you ever do . Why not do everyone a favour and fuck off ?

 

[skybluetony176]

 

[Walsgrave]

I always thought Excel was underrated compared to all of the new up and coming coding languages like SQL, VBA, Python etc, but then when you spend billions on something, I suppose Microsoft Office products don't do the trick!

 

[The Lurker]

FYI your information this is complete bollocks, I asked a someone who worked there.

You don't know anyone who works there as loads of them are foreign or not white and you hate people like that.

Ok ok I’m wrong

this was from someone inside the hospital.

 

[shmmeee]

I always thought Excel was underrated compared to all of the new up and coming coding languages like SQL, VBA, Python etc, but then when you spend billions on something, I suppose Microsoft Office products don't do the trick!

Please never talk tech again.

 

[Walsgrave]

Please never talk tech again.

Well it's true. Excel can achieve most of the more advanced things required for business, albeit less efficiently than other programmes. It's looked down upon because 'everyone can do it', or at least most Office workers can. Only when we speak of AI and Machine Learning (which this isn't) are other things particularly relevant. Granted, SQL is a better option for large datasets than Excel and not that much more advanced.

 

[skybluetony176]

Boris Johnson in second doesn’t know his arse from his elbow incident in less than two weeks shocker

And the week is young.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I keep spreadsheets because I'm not a techie and can't be arsed with learning database (or remembering how to use Access even) but even I know it's a far more efficient way of doing it and wouldn't dream of running a business on it, let alone a track and trace system for a deadly pandemic with potentially millions of data sets being added.

But it's Dido Harding, so if anything I'm surprised it's as advanced as Excel. I expected it'd all be paper-based with results being sent out via fax (or telegram).

 

[Kieranp96]

FYI - yesterday in walsgrave hospital 0 people in for Covid. Just to say that again. 0 in.

Where did you get that info? I got different info from someone who actually works there.

 

[Kieranp96]

I always thought Excel was underrated compared to all of the new up and coming coding languages like SQL, VBA, Python etc, but then when you spend billions on something, I suppose Microsoft Office products don't do the trick!

Python up and Coming? Lol

 

[David O'Day]

Ok ok I’m wrong

this was from someone inside the hospital.

no it wasn't

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

no it wasn't

To be fair he said it was someone inside the hospital. Doesn't say anything about them working there or being in the know. Could be a delivery guy, someone there having a test done or someone visiting a patient in a totally unrelated ward.

have you seen the video (I think I saw it on John Oliver) of the guy that went into a US hospital demanding to see Covid patients because it was all a hoax, never got further than the reception and thus concluded there were no Covid patients because he hadn't seen any.

 

[wingy]

I wonder if this is related to the week when no one could book a test?
The track and trace had an IT issue for 3days at the time IE hard to log on and no clients to call.

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Lana Del Rey criticised for wearing mesh mask to poetry reading

Musician posed with fans at a Los Angeles bookshop wearing a glittery mesh mask that did not fully cover her nose and mouth

www.theguardian.com

 

[shmmeee]

Well it's true. Excel can achieve most of the more advanced things required for business, albeit less efficiently than other programmes. It's looked down upon because 'everyone can do it', or at least most Office workers can. Only when we speak of AI and Machine Learning (which this isn't) are other things particularly relevant. Granted, SQL is a better option for large datasets than Excel and not that much more advanced.

Fine.

Excel isn’t coding. It’s a spreadsheet package. SQL is a database query and definition language, also not Turing complete (and was invented in 1974 a full 14 years before The first Excel released). VB is Microsoft Office’s scripting language, used in conjunction with Excel. Python is a fully formed programming language but can hardly be described as up and coming as it was released almost 30 years ago.

The problem was using a spreadsheet package to do the job of a database, nothing to do with coding or languages. Even then CSV would’ve been perfectly fine for a flat file DB, had they not used Excel which has size limitations and is well known for destroying your data. And let’s not get started on the GDPR implications of storing private info in an Excel doc.

Also AI and ML are the same thing, and are data processing tools (more accurately optimisation models), again nothing to do with Excel or data structures in general.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Fine.

Excel isn’t coding. It’s a spreadsheet package. SQL is a database query and definition language, also not Turing complete (and was invented in 1974 a full 14 years before The first Excel released). VB is Microsoft Office’s scripting language, used in conjunction with Excel. Python is a fully formed programming language but can hardly be described as up and coming as it was released almost 30 years ago.

The problem was using a spreadsheet package to do the job of a database, nothing to do with coding or languages. Even then CSV would’ve been perfectly fine for a flat file DB, had they not used Excel which has size limitations and is well known for destroying your data. And let’s not get started on the GDPR implications of storing private info in an Excel doc.

Also AI and ML are the same thing, and are data processing tools (more accurately optimisation models), again nothing to do with Excel or data structures in general.

Yet another example of privatising something where the capability isn't there in the private sector. NHS Digital has got all the tools needed for test and trace yet Cock and has set up a shadow system. The bloke, his advisors and senior civil servants should all be getting the fucking boot.

 

[Walsgrave]

Fine.

Excel isn’t coding. It’s a spreadsheet package. SQL is a database query and definition language, also not Turing complete (and was invented in 1974 a full 14 years before The first Excel released). VB is Microsoft Office’s scripting language, used in conjunction with Excel. Python is a fully formed programming language but can hardly be described as up and coming as it was released almost 30 years ago.

The problem was using a spreadsheet package to do the job of a database, nothing to do with coding or languages. Even then CSV would’ve been perfectly fine for a flat file DB, had they not used Excel which has size limitations and is well known for destroying your data. And let’s not get started on the GDPR implications of storing private info in an Excel doc.

Also AI and ML are the same thing, and are data processing tools (more accurately optimisation models), again nothing to do with Excel or data structures in general.

Ok, cool story. I forgot that this a General Chat forum where people can define the semantics rather loosely, rather than a developer community.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Number of hospital admissions is increasing day on day, England 400% in a month. God knows what things will look like by Christmas.