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shmmeee

shmmeee

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Grendel said:
The problem with Mr Starmer is that we have to consider if his road to sensible middle ground politics is a genuine transformation to sensible politics or a cynical attempt at a power grab before the wolf is revealed

He was clearly an extreme hard line Trotskyite with some very strange views. Have these changed that much?
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Claire Fox was in the RCP. Michael Gove was a Labour Party member.
 
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xcraigx

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wingy said:
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The worrying bit of that is the R rate of the new strain during the recent 'lockdown' was 1.45. I'm sure that will have in part been driven by schools remaining open so hopefully having them shut recently will bring that figure down to some extent.

If we are going to regain any sort of control over the next few weeks then it needs a rethink of what we class 'lockdown' as and the public really will have to buy into this else we are heading for the worst of the pandemic just as we've got ourselves a vaccine.
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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xcraigx said:
The worrying bit of that is the R rate of the new strain during the recent 'lockdown' was 1.45. I'm sure that will have in part been driven by schools remaining open so hopefully having them shut recently will bring that figure down to some extent.

If we are going to regain any sort of control over the next few weeks then it needs a rethink of what we class 'lockdown' as and the public really will have to buy into this else we are heading for the worst of the pandemic just as we've got ourselves a vaccine.
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We are anyway
 
chiefdave

chiefdave

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xcraigx said:
If we are going to regain any sort of control over the next few weeks then it needs a rethink of what we class 'lockdown' as and the public really will have to buy into this else we are heading for the worst of the pandemic just as we've got ourselves a vaccine.
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Everyday at work I'm dealing with companies who have their offices open and staff in when there is absolutely no reason their business couldn't continue uninterrupted with everyone working from home.

What I can't understand is that even when they brought in the new tiers they admitted only tier 3 would reduce cases yet we continued with huge sections of the country in tier 2 as cases continued to increase.
Independent said:
New tough Covid-19 restrictions that will continue for 99 per cent of England are unlikely to be relaxed this winter, Chris Whitty has warned.

The chief medical officer appeared to rule out any more areas moving down into tier 1, with the loosest curbs – arguing cases “will rise” if that happened.

Professor Whitty also warned that only the harshest tier 3 regime would cut infections, with tier 2 only strong enough to “hold the line”.
“If you're in tier one, the rates start to go up so you do not want to do that in winter, just before Christmas, going into the worst time for the NHS,” Professor Whitty told a press conference.
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So the question now is do the increased restrictions in tier 4, closing non-essential shops and gyms seems pretty much it, do enough to offset the increased transmission of the new variant?

But as you say if people don't buy in and stick to the rules we'll get nowhere fast. There was a nurse on TV yesterday in tears talking about how much pressure they were under yet people still ignore the rules. Also a paramedic who said when they're going into peoples homes its clear they haven't been keeping to the rules.

Of course the inconsistencies don't help with the messaging. You can go on a hunt but can't play 5-a-side in the park. Can't have 2K in St Andrews socially distanced but can cram kids into schools. These are the things those breaking the rules highlight to justify their actions.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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ajsccfc said:
Allison Pearson is one of those who've made their name through this by being not just wrong at every turn but a massive fucking idiot at the same time. Julia Double-Barrel, 'Lozza' Fox, all of them complete grifters
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Toby Young is another. Laurence Fox is as thick as pig shit, constantly going on about how he should be able to say what he likes and no one has the right to be offended and then plays the victim when people say what they like about him.
 
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chiefdave

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Skybluefaz said:
Do we think there will be a Sunday night u turn on schools? I'm expecting it more than not.
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Primary schools in London to stay closed until at least the 18th. Does that not mean they'll have primary kids, where we're told transmission is virtually zero, off while exam years at secondaries, where transmission is higher, will be back in a week earlier? Not to mention why only London?

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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chiefdave said:
Primary schools in London to stay closed until at least the 18th. Does that not mean they'll have primary kids, where we're told transmission is virtually zero, off while exam years at secondaries, where transmission is higher, will be back in a week earlier? Not to mention why only London?

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They should all be closed but he like his boss hasn’t got the balls
 
ajsccfc

ajsccfc

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skybluetony176 said:
Toby Young is another. Laurence Fox is as thick as pig shit, constantly going on about how he should be able to say what he likes and no one has the right to be offended and then plays the victim when people say what they like about him.
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I like when he denies any notion of privilege, having grown up as a perfectly common member of an acting family who went to Harrow
 
Skybluefaz

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As shit as it is for kids, it seems wiser to Squash it down now, get the vaccinations done and hopefully we can return to normality quicker, rather than treading water for longer. Give each child some light learning to do over the summer if required. (supported by parents rather than teachers)
 
cowboy1850

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Brylowes said:
My 9 y/o Daughter is supposed to be going back this Wednesday but we’re not sending her.
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If parents knew exactly was happening in schools they probably wouldn't be so keen to send their kids back.

Corridors are crowded with kids, rooms used by more than one bubble group in between cleaning, staff breaking rules, headteachers turning the other way, no extra cleaning or deep cleaning, cleaners given no help....
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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ajsccfc said:
I like when he denies any notion of privilege, having grown up as a perfectly common member of an acting family who went to Harrow
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He’s a shit actor as well. His career is the epitome of privilege living of the back of his dads ability and connections. To prove it even more he’s a very shit singer who got a two album deal.
 
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