Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (255 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

happy new year

COVID-19: Chief medical officer Chris Whitty warns coronavirus vaccine shortages will last months

The UK's chief medical officers have backed a change in guidance which says booster jabs should be given up to 12 weeks later.

news.sky.com

 

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[Skybluefaz]

happy new year

COVID-19: Chief medical officer Chris Whitty warns coronavirus vaccine shortages will last months

The UK's chief medical officers have backed a change in guidance which says booster jabs should be given up to 12 weeks later.

news.sky.com

Boris said we'd be back to normal by April

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Boris said we'd be back to normal by April

He didn't say which year

 

[wingy]

 

[Skybluefaz]

He didn't say which year

Of course.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Do we think there will be a Sunday night u turn on schools? I'm expecting it more than not.

 

[xcraigx]

The worrying bit of that is the R rate of the new strain during the recent 'lockdown' was 1.45. I'm sure that will have in part been driven by schools remaining open so hopefully having them shut recently will bring that figure down to some extent.

If we are going to regain any sort of control over the next few weeks then it needs a rethink of what we class 'lockdown' as and the public really will have to buy into this else we are heading for the worst of the pandemic just as we've got ourselves a vaccine.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The worrying bit of that is the R rate of the new strain during the recent 'lockdown' was 1.45. I'm sure that will have in part been driven by schools remaining open so hopefully having them shut recently will bring that figure down to some extent.

If we are going to regain any sort of control over the next few weeks then it needs a rethink of what we class 'lockdown' as and the public really will have to buy into this else we are heading for the worst of the pandemic just as we've got ourselves a vaccine.

We are anyway

 

[chiefdave]

If we are going to regain any sort of control over the next few weeks then it needs a rethink of what we class 'lockdown' as and the public really will have to buy into this else we are heading for the worst of the pandemic just as we've got ourselves a vaccine.

Everyday at work I'm dealing with companies who have their offices open and staff in when there is absolutely no reason their business couldn't continue uninterrupted with everyone working from home.

What I can't understand is that even when they brought in the new tiers they admitted only tier 3 would reduce cases yet we continued with huge sections of the country in tier 2 as cases continued to increase.

New tough Covid-19 restrictions that will continue for 99 per cent of England are unlikely to be relaxed this winter, Chris Whitty has warned.

The chief medical officer appeared to rule out any more areas moving down into tier 1, with the loosest curbs – arguing cases “will rise” if that happened.

Professor Whitty also warned that only the harshest tier 3 regime would cut infections, with tier 2 only strong enough to “hold the line”.
“If you're in tier one, the rates start to go up so you do not want to do that in winter, just before Christmas, going into the worst time for the NHS,” Professor Whitty told a press conference.

So the question now is do the increased restrictions in tier 4, closing non-essential shops and gyms seems pretty much it, do enough to offset the increased transmission of the new variant?

But as you say if people don't buy in and stick to the rules we'll get nowhere fast. There was a nurse on TV yesterday in tears talking about how much pressure they were under yet people still ignore the rules. Also a paramedic who said when they're going into peoples homes its clear they haven't been keeping to the rules.

Of course the inconsistencies don't help with the messaging. You can go on a hunt but can't play 5-a-side in the park. Can't have 2K in St Andrews socially distanced but can cram kids into schools. These are the things those breaking the rules highlight to justify their actions.

 

[David O'Day]

Covid: Met breaks up more than 50 New Year's Eve parties

A total of 217 people are issued with fixed penalty notices for breaching tier four regulations.

www.bbc.co.uk

Why is breaking up 50 parties in a city of 9.3 million even a story?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Covid: Met breaks up more than 50 New Year's Eve parties

A total of 217 people are issued with fixed penalty notices for breaching tier four regulations.

www.bbc.co.uk

Why is breaking up 50 parties in a city of 9.3 million even a story?

It is for the client BBC to build a narrative that the public is solely to blame for the catastrophe hitting London hospitals

 

[fernandopartridge]

We haven't been in lockdown since May. It's been pretty permissive since

 

[stupot07]

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[ajsccfc]

Allison Pearson is one of those who've made their name through this by being not just wrong at every turn but a massive fucking idiot at the same time. Julia Double-Barrel, 'Lozza' Fox, all of them complete grifters

 

[fernandopartridge]

Allison Pearson is one of those who've made their name through this by being not just wrong at every turn but a massive fucking idiot at the same time. Julia Double-Barrel, 'Lozza' Fox, all of them complete grifters

Yeah, culture warriors.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It’s a good question to ask so why don’t we? And it’s to do with mass testing and adhering to quarantine

 

[Ian1779]

Allison Pearson is one of those who've made their name through this by being not just wrong at every turn but a massive fucking idiot at the same time. Julia Double-Barrel, 'Lozza' Fox, all of them complete grifters

She is a top-grade nasty c***

 

[skybluetony176]

Allison Pearson is one of those who've made their name through this by being not just wrong at every turn but a massive fucking idiot at the same time. Julia Double-Barrel, 'Lozza' Fox, all of them complete grifters

Toby Young is another. Laurence Fox is as thick as pig shit, constantly going on about how he should be able to say what he likes and no one has the right to be offended and then plays the victim when people say what they like about him.

 

[chiefdave]

Do we think there will be a Sunday night u turn on schools? I'm expecting it more than not.

Primary schools in London to stay closed until at least the 18th. Does that not mean they'll have primary kids, where we're told transmission is virtually zero, off while exam years at secondaries, where transmission is higher, will be back in a week earlier? Not to mention why only London?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Primary schools in London to stay closed until at least the 18th. Does that not mean they'll have primary kids, where we're told transmission is virtually zero, off while exam years at secondaries, where transmission is higher, will be back in a week earlier? Not to mention why only London?

They should all be closed but he like his boss hasn’t got the balls

 

[Skybluefaz]

They should all be closed but he like his boss hasn’t got the balls

Give it time

 

[cowboy1850]

They'll close them in about 3 weeks when it's too late, as usual.....

 

[ajsccfc]

Toby Young is another. Laurence Fox is as thick as pig shit, constantly going on about how he should be able to say what he likes and no one has the right to be offended and then plays the victim when people say what they like about him.

I like when he denies any notion of privilege, having grown up as a perfectly common member of an acting family who went to Harrow

 

[Skybluefaz]

As shit as it is for kids, it seems wiser to Squash it down now, get the vaccinations done and hopefully we can return to normality quicker, rather than treading water for longer. Give each child some light learning to do over the summer if required. (supported by parents rather than teachers)

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Covid: All London primary schools to stay closed

Education Secretary Gavin Williamson drops plan to keep primaries open in 10 boroughs in the city.

www.bbc.co.uk

How long before all tier 4 schools are included

 

[Brylowes]

They'll close them in about 3 weeks when it's too late, as usual.....

My 9 y/o Daughter is supposed to be going back this Wednesday but we’re not sending her.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Ministers urged to close all schools in England for two weeks

Call comes after government said all primaries in London should remain closed next week

www.google.co.uk

Come on Gavin announce all tier 4 as well and let’s avoid tens of thousands of deaths during January

 

[cowboy1850]

My 9 y/o Daughter is supposed to be going back this Wednesday but we’re not sending her.

If parents knew exactly was happening in schools they probably wouldn't be so keen to send their kids back.

Corridors are crowded with kids, rooms used by more than one bubble group in between cleaning, staff breaking rules, headteachers turning the other way, no extra cleaning or deep cleaning, cleaners given no help....

 

[skybluetony176]

I like when he denies any notion of privilege, having grown up as a perfectly common member of an acting family who went to Harrow

He’s a shit actor as well. His career is the epitome of privilege living of the back of his dads ability and connections. To prove it even more he’s a very shit singer who got a two album deal.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Ministers urged to close all schools in England for two weeks

Call comes after government said all primaries in London should remain closed next week

www.google.co.uk

Come on Gavin announce all tier 4 as well and let’s avoid tens of thousands of deaths during January

The deaths in January are now inevitable, certainly for the first two to three weeks

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The deaths in January are now inevitable, certainly for the first two to three weeks

Not all of them. My mum staying with my
Sister tonight. Beyond cross and absolutely expecting her to catch it and be very very ooorly

 

[Macca]

Went for a run today saw groups of 8 or more walking dogs together clearly not single households. As much as I don’t want it, only a month of April style lockdown is going to work. We are heading for disaster

 

[Nick]

Not all of them. My mum staying with my
Sister tonight. Beyond cross and absolutely expecting her to catch it and be very very ooorly

Thats a bit of an over reaction Pete.

Im sure the cunts in charge of the country would be happy for people to go mental at their mum for staying at her daughters. Your mum could bump into 10 people in Tesco.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Thats a bit of an over reaction Pete.

Im sure the cunts in charge of the country would be happy for people to go mental at their mum for staying at her daughters. Your mum could bump into 10 people in Tesco.

Not defending the govt but meeting outdoors briefly and staying overnight in the average house are two different things entirely. I suspect there is more than sufficient evidence of household mixing in households being a massive driver of transmission (as it is with cold and flu)

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Not defending the govt but meeting outdoors briefly and staying overnight in the average house are two different things entirely. I suspect there is more than sufficient evidence of household mixing in households being a massive driver of transmission (as it is with cold and flu)

I agree with that. Only thing I would say mind you, is if Pete's Mum is by herself, it's not quite so black and white as keep her away from everybody. If either of my parents were by themselves, I'd certainly be asking if I needed to change my approach to them. Doesn't mean I would, but it's balancing the risks and hoping you get it right. While they have each other, it's a no-brainer but, by themselves, there is a bit more need, possibly, for them to need care in other ways.

Mind you, somebody I know is going back to work Monday and Tuesday, then going back to their 80yo parents to help them take the Christmas decorations down as they can't manage it themselves. Take the sodding things down Sunday, in that case, before going back to work!