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Coventry City given Football League award for providing families with an ‘outstanding (2 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2014
  • #106
lamtara2006 said:
The Club Owners that, in one 35 mile move, have done more than any other to lose a generation of fans than any other get this accolade!!! I ****ing despair of the Football League. "Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right."
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And we're stuck in the middle with SISU.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2014
  • #107
sw88 said:
But that comment in itself is misleading. Their tweet said:

@Coventry_City: #skyblues thank matchday staff & volunteers efforts in receiving @football_league Family Excellence Award... http://t.co/rZcfipMduk #pusb

The article was along the same lines; not necessarily for "how it treats it's fans". More so, how the fans attending the games feel they were treated (on matchday, not in general)

Only criticism may be that the facts behind the 'award' weren't explained, or known to fans.

There would be uproar if SISU won the 'worst football club owners in history' due to the fact they'd still be here. Just because they won it as apposed to what it's actual meaning was.
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To be fair SW, the comment from the League was:

“The Football League Family Excellence Award gives clubs a standard to aspire to when planning their efforts to attract more families and young fans to their matches.
“It is hugely encouraging to see so many clubs receiving the accolade, demonstrating The Football League’s ongoing commitment to securing the next generation of fans.”

Our esteemed owners have done the very opposite of that.
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • May 8, 2014
  • #108
Brighton Sky Blue said:
To be fair SW, the comment from the League was:

“The Football League Family Excellence Award gives clubs a standard to aspire to when planning their efforts to attract more families and young fans to their matches.
“It is hugely encouraging to see so many clubs receiving the accolade, demonstrating The Football League’s ongoing commitment to securing the next generation of fans.”

Our esteemed owners have done the very opposite of that.
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Oh! Ok I hold my hands up then and say Apologise. Backing down as we speak
 
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SimonGilbert

Telegraph Tea Boy
  • May 8, 2014
  • #109
sw88 said:
But that comment in itself is misleading. Their tweet said:

@Coventry_City: #skyblues thank matchday staff & volunteers efforts in receiving @football_league Family Excellence Award... http://t.co/rZcfipMduk #pusb

The article was along the same lines; not necessarily for "how it treats it's fans". More so, how the fans attending the games feel they were treated (on matchday, not in general)

Only criticism may be that the facts behind the 'award' weren't explained, or known to fans.

There would be uproar if SISU won the 'worst football club owners in history' due to the fact they'd still be here. Just because they won it as apposed to what it's actual meaning was.
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The Tweet you've quoted is also misleading.

The first Tweet posted by the club actually read: "08/05/2014 09:17
We have been awarded the @football_league Family Excellence Award for the 2013/14 season! bit.ly/1hz9hW3 #pusb #skyblues"

The details of the award were also explained in the original article and expanded upon in the updated version.


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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2014
  • #110
sw88 said:
Oh! Ok I hold my hands up then and say Apologise. Backing down as we speak
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To be fair, it shows our status as a pioneering club, a model for others to follow.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2014
  • #111
Fucking Hell. Can't believe this has reached 11 pages.
Who gives a shit?
It's like arguing over MacDonalds employee of the week. ..

Right.. the bottle is empty so it's time for bed..
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2014
  • #112
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Fucking Hell. Can't believe this has reached 11 pages.
Who gives a shit?
It's like arguing over MacDonalds employee of the week. ..

Right.. the bottle is empty so it's time for bed..
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Has he been released by Gillingham?
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2014
  • #113
Nonsense. I betcha rubbing your hands and planning another similar piece.

SimonGilbert said:
The fans' fury was already there. Otherwise there would have been no article...


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cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2014
  • #114
cloughie said:
So now newspapers should not report news ........amazing
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According to your version there would be no fury if the Telegraph had not reported it, as we would not have known
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 8, 2014
  • #115
cloughie said:
According to your version there would be no fury if the Telegraph had not reported it, as we would not have known
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Of course there would, but it is cleverly stirring
 
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SimonGilbert

Telegraph Tea Boy
  • May 8, 2014
  • #116
Nick said:
Of course there would, but it is cleverly stirring
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The story and the reaction was newsworthy. Are you suggesting we shouldn't have reported it?


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Nick

Administrator
  • May 8, 2014
  • #117
SimonGilbert said:
The story and the reaction was newsworthy. Are you suggesting we shouldn't have reported it?


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Again, I didn't say that, it's the way it's reported I guess and then the huge wooden spoon
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2014
  • #118
Unsurprisingly it's all another load of bollocks over nothing and you've all wasted another day of your lives.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2014
  • #119
SimonGilbert said:
The story and the reaction was newsworthy. Are you suggesting we shouldn't have reported it?


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I think they may be suggesting that a Coventry based newspaper shouldn't be concerning itself so much with a football club that plays in Northampton.

Other than that, I can't see what the problem would be
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #120
SimonGilbert said:
The story and the reaction was newsworthy. Are you suggesting we shouldn't have reported it?


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why dont you call it down the middle like les reid?
 
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Matty_CCFC

New Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #121
We are a fucking joke..........
 
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labrax

Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #122
Look at it this way lads, the FL/FA work in mysterious ways, on the face of it they seem quite prepared to shoot themselves in foot. This time it appears to be working in your favour on the publicity side of things. If you wanted your plight made more public then this latest howler from them surely helps. How far up the chain of command this decision came from or whether any thought process was given to it, leaves one scratching their head.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #123
Fuck me the pitchforks are out now Simon!

Quick! Blame the council! Maybe start supporting Spurs!
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #124
covcity4life said:
why dont you call it down the middle like les reid?
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He knows where his bread is best buttered - council side up.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #125
Nick said:
No, you can't judge the experience if you haven't been can you? It's like me trying to judge a lovely tasting cake competition without actually eating it.

I can't comment on how it is for families as I never took mine though.

The kids always seemed to love it though.
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Your talking rubbish Nick, how many families go to sixfields compared to those who went to the Ricoh?

Using your examples of cakes, if one type of cake sells 10,000 slices and the other sells 1000 slices. I don't need to taste them to know the one that sells 10 x less is a load of shite
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #126
Grendel said:
He knows where his bread is best buttered - council side up.
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Bwahhahaha!

Yeah! Bet there's secret meetings with Ann Lucas. Oh wait that's just you and Nickovitch.
 
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will am i

Active Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #127
Grendel said:
He knows where his bread is best buttered - council side up.
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How do you work out anything that is reported that doesnt favour SISU is automatically in favour of the Council - dont recall any mention of the Council in the article
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 9, 2014
  • #128
shmmeee said:
Bwahhahaha!

Yeah! Bet there's secret meetings with Ann Lucas. Oh wait that's just you and Nickovitch.
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Oh wait, you don't know who is meeting them do you most people are staying quiet about it for some reason.

Plus must people haven't come back treating him like a savour like the trust did are they? Any secret trust meetings their paying members should know about?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 9, 2014
  • #129
CCFC said:
Your talking rubbish Nick, how many families go to sixfields compared to those who went to the Ricoh?

Using your examples of cakes, if one type of cake sells 10,000 slices and the other sells 1000 slices. I don't need to taste them to know the one that sells 10 x less is a load of shite
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How do you know it tastes like shit? I bet mr Kipling sell loads more than a small bakery but the small bakery may taste a lot better. So people who judge cake competitions don't need to taste it?

I'm not questioning attendance differences or the actual quality, just that attendance is nothing to do with quality of the experience in this case.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #130
So when did the Trust say he was a Savior did I miss that one?
Don't know many of the trust that have met him.

Nick said:
Oh wait, you don't know who is meeting them do you most people are staying quiet about it for some reason.

Plus must people haven't come back treating him like a savour like the trust did are they? Any secret trust meetings their paying members should know about?
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limoncello

Guest
  • May 9, 2014
  • #131
Nick said:
Oh wait, you don't know who is meeting them do you most people are staying quiet about it for some reason.

Plus must people haven't come back treating him like a savour like the trust did are they? Any secret trust meetings their paying members should know about?
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He's just got the hump because you didn't invite him, he likes to be at the centre of things. Remember how excited he was about possibly being on the stadium group? 'Just my sort of thing', but as soon as he got rejected it oddly became a shitty pro-Sisu bunch of appeasers.

Not his fault really, I get the feeling his Sunday dinners as a kid were fully minuted and the family took turns chairing. 'Next on the agenda we have choice of greens for midweek dinners and healthy sandwich filling suggestions, mother, have you prepared the voting slips?'
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 9, 2014
  • #132
letsallsingtogether said:
So when did the Trust say he was a Savior did I miss that one?
Don't know many of the trust that have met him.
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Sorry didn't mean the trust with ml
 

Chinny_Hill

New Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #133
Had a response from the FL today re this, funny.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #134
It;s OK just I know a lot of the trust personally, they have become good friends over the last couple of seasons some of them work tirelessly for the cause.
But don't really get the honours they deserve. Just get shit from certain posters who look at everything they do strip it down then pick on one part they don't like, just to push there own causes.

Nick said:
Sorry didn't mean the trust with ml
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SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #135
Nick said:
How do you know it tastes like shit? I bet mr Kipling sell loads more than a small bakery but the small bakery may taste a lot better. So people who judge cake competitions don't need to taste it?
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Ahh but here you are comparing a large company to a small company, that is like comparing the match day experience of Man City to the match day experience of an Accrington Stanley, you could well argue here that the match day experience of the smaller club could be better than that of the big club. Here we are talking about Coventry at the Ricoh, compared to Coventry at Sixfields.

Think of it as a bakery's sells two types of cakes in his store, one sells 10,000 slices and the other sells 1000 slices. Again doesn't take a genius to figure out which one is better.



I'm not questioning attendance differences or the actual quality, just that attendance is nothing to do with quality of the experience in this case.
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So is it the top class facilities, the incredible atmosphere or the the 35 mile journey which makes it such a pleasurable experience?

There is no doubting that the matchday experience has decreased significantly since previous seasons, the award is a farce and anyone who tries to defend the award is either deluded or just trying to play devil's advocate
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #136
CCFC said:
Ahh but here you are comparing a large company to a small company, that is like comparing the match day experience of Man City to the match day experience of an Accrington Stanley, you could well argue here that the match day experience of the smaller club could be better than that of the big club. Here we are talking about Coventry at the Ricoh, compared to Coventry at Sixfields.

Think of it as a bakery's sells two types of cakes in his store, one sells 10,000 slices and the other sells 1000 slices. Again doesn't take a genius to figure out which one is better.
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Look this is a CSI survey. You appoint mystery shoppers (no doubt from the Isle of Wight) and they go and have the experience

They then rate the experience to specific criteria. I've experienced this conundrum for years in the automotive industry. The shopper wanders in goes through the sales experience and rates against specified criteria - were they made welcome, were they offered a coffee, were they offered a test drive. Often very successful dealers who sold thei most vehicles against target do not score the best. This is the same. Its a CSI survey with a couple of shoppers that's it!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 9, 2014
  • #137
CCFC said:
Ahh but here you are comparing a large company to a small company, that is like comparing the match day experience of Man City to the match day experience of an Accrington Stanley, you could well argue here that the match day experience of the smaller club could be better than that of the big club. Here we are talking about Coventry at the Ricoh, compared to Coventry at Sixfields.

Think of it as a bakery's sells two types of cakes in his store, one sells 10,000 slices and the other sells 1000 slices. Again doesn't take a genius to figure out which one is better.





So is it the top class facilities, the incredible atmosphere or the the 35 mile journey which makes it such a pleasurable experience?

There is no doubting that the matchday experience has decreased significantly since previous seasons, the award is a farce and anyone who tries to defend the award is either deluded or just trying to play devil's advocate
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My point was, you can't judge a cake flavour competition without tasting it can you? It may well be a cheap store and one is priced 1.99 and the other is 14.99 but tastes amazing. You still can't judge the taste of the cake without trying it, can you?

I don't know what it was judged on, if you read my posts you will see I can't see many reasons they would have got it.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #138
Nick said:
My point was, you can't judge a cake flavour competition without tasting it can you? It may well be a cheap store and one is priced 1.99 and the other is 14.99 but tastes amazing. You still can't judge the taste of the cake without trying it, can you?

I don't know what it was judged on, if you read my posts you will see I can't see many reasons they would have got it.
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It was judged by some people from the Isle Of Wight. They liked it better than last year. They were not asked to give an opinion on the number of other people in the cake shop or its size.

This is the murky world of the mystery shop.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #139
Nick said:
My point was, you can't judge a cake flavour competition without tasting it can you? It may well be a cheap store and one is priced 1.99 and the other is 14.99 but tastes amazing. You still can't judge the taste of the cake without trying it, can you?

I don't know what it was judged on, if you read my posts you will see I can't see many reasons they would have got it.
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You don't need to know the criteria that it was judged on

Common sense tells you it's a joke
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2014
  • #140
CCFC said:
You don't need to know the criteria that it was judged on

Common sense tells you it's a joke
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The mystery shopper will only judge on the criteria.
 
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