The serious business starts Tuesday, 6 game run that will define our season
Today and Wednesday just a distraction.
Have they?They’ve all lostfantastic point you make there
It’s the performance not the resultWhat's today's result got to do with another set of results?
Tying yourself in knots there.It’s the performance not the result
They’ve all lostfantastic point you make there
A PL squad is a bit of a stretch...We played a weakened time against a pl squad mate
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Not quite sure you can call it a line either,Closest it’s gonna get to KO
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Ipswich took kick and this is just seconds later. Look how high our back line is already. Mental.
Nah…Lati and Dovin aren’t worth that muchI’m pretty sure the 2 players who combined for their 4th goal have a combined transfer value not far off £40m. You can claim real resources don’t make a difference but they clearly do.
Leeds maybe, today was a gift for Ipswich.If we hadn’t made mistakes we probably still lose both. Disregarding the mistakes Leeds were by far the better team and Ipswich had the better of the game today.
You don’t get any points for a spirited loss.
Leeds maybe, today was a gift for Ipswich.
On the ball even, off the ball less so.
By the end of the game I'd have cheered a two footer and a red card, it was pathetic.
Look at Brum v Newcastle. That's a real quality gap, we should at least be able to battle.
Really not. My point was they gave them a game. We never didTying yourself in knots there.
Lats runs like Shamus of Family guy. Must be that award wining ding giving him jip!exactly this - absolutely no real bother today other than it shows we have very little strength in depth, and Latibeaudiere is not a RWB
it must be very difficult being as up and down as some of you guys
BehaveBirmingham spending is comparable to Newcastle tbf 🫣
Then so is ours!Birmingham spending is comparable to Newcastle tbf 🫣
Can’t remember the last time we had a player go out and loan and actually be successful.Obikwu scored for Grimsby again
Then so is ours!
Average over 5 seasons its not even close.
Newcastle have an England international as a back up up top. Kudos Cal btw
Not sure I follow. If we make and win the playoffs then it's academic if we are 'good enough' to go up. The playoffs are routinely made up of multiple teams that finished outside the top 6 the previous season. The goal is to be in the mix every year, and it doesn't seem like we're a million miles off that.Look if we're honest the last 2 games just show how far off the level we are
It's all well and good Doug saying about the 3 play offs in 5 years plan (which btw is 3 in 3 from next season), and he's doing his best, but we are nowhere near the level required to get out of this league
Are we a decent side? Yes. Are we good enough to go up even if we make play offs? Absolutely not, we would get eaten alive every week
Only 2 ways you get out of the Championship, a once in a generation season (Ipswich, Blackpool, Hull, Luton and ALMOST us)
Or you have Parachute money / silly amounts of money Wolves promotion season style.
The longer it goes on the more it seems the PO Final was THE chance, and we didn't take it
Don't get me wrong, it can be done, look at Sunderland this season, flying. But that is more the exception than the norm
Again... what difference does other team's performances make?Really not. My point was they gave them a game. We never did
Again... what difference does other team's performances make?
I'm not defending them... I thought the set up at kick off & general tactics were bizarre.
grimes signed because of the “ plan “ we’ve got, Lampards here because he must of been told he’ll get what he needs, think we” ll be so much stronger next season and hopefully it’ll be the first season where we don’t have any issues, still think we’ll come up,short this season but we’ll be set up good for next season, we’ll always be after the 4th 5th or 6th spot like you say, Sunderland haven’t gone mad but that’s taken them 2 seasons to put that team together, still don’t get why we don’t have loans, could be the difference ?Look if we're honest the last 2 games just show how far off the level we are
It's all well and good Doug saying about the 3 play offs in 5 years plan (which btw is 3 in 3 from next season), and he's doing his best, but we are nowhere near the level required to get out of this league
Are we a decent side? Yes. Are we good enough to go up even if we make play offs? Absolutely not, we would get eaten alive every week
Only 2 ways you get out of the Championship, a once in a generation season (Ipswich, Blackpool, Hull, Luton and ALMOST us)
Or you have Parachute money / silly amounts of money Wolves promotion season style.
The longer it goes on the more it seems the PO Final was THE chance, and we didn't take it
Don't get me wrong, it can be done, look at Sunderland this season, flying. But that is more the exception than the norm
Not to be pedantic to the overall point but doesn’t he include the playoff final as one of these seasons. So it would be 2 in 3.Look if we're honest the last 2 games just show how far off the level we are
It's all well and good Doug saying about the 3 play offs in 5 years plan (which btw is 3 in 3 from next season), and he's doing his best, but we are nowhere near the level required to get out of this league
Are we a decent side? Yes. Are we good enough to go up even if we make play offs? Absolutely not, we would get eaten alive every week
Only 2 ways you get out of the Championship, a once in a generation season (Ipswich, Blackpool, Hull, Luton and ALMOST us)
Or you have Parachute money / silly amounts of money Wolves promotion season style.
The longer it goes on the more it seems the PO Final was THE chance, and we didn't take it
Don't get me wrong, it can be done, look at Sunderland this season, flying. But that is more the exception than the norm
I must have dreamt that Saturday when I went to Wolves... Then again, recency bias!Because people in this thread keep saying we can’t expect a good performance against teams above us in the pyramid.
I’d imagine Birmingham will be good odds to get promotion next year
just hope Lampard gets the funds that robins did, just hope that wasn’t our best chance of a decent budget and we’ve blown it on this squad, look at who we’ve just signed for 3 million, binks and Thomas cost more or less that ? We’ve wasted millionsNot to be pedantic to the overall point but doesn’t he include the playoff final as one of these seasons. So it would be 2 in 3.
Anyway it’s a very difficult league as we all know. Do think with Mark and Adi it would have been done. Hard to see it now but do feel we’ll make a go of the top six
Not taking nothing away but wolves were missing a fewI must have dreamt that Saturday when I went to Wolves... Then again, recency bias!
The point is they tried to win the games. With that selection and formation we gave up before a ball was kickedAgain... what difference does other team's performances make?
I'm not defending them... I thought the set up at kick off & general tactics were bizarre.
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just hope Lampard gets the funds that robins did, just hope that wasn’t our best chance of a decent budget and we’ve blown it on this squad, look at who we’ve just signed for 3 million, binks and Thomas cost more or less that ? We’ve wasted millions
Dunno why everyone is losing it. The fact we're still even in with a shout of play offs is a miracle. I said of Lampard I wanted him to get us top half and give me hope for next season again, that goal is going well so far.grimes signed because of the “ plan “ we’ve got, Lampards here because he must of been told he’ll get what he needs, think we” ll be so much stronger next season and hopefully it’ll be the first season where we don’t have any issues, still think we’ll come up,short this season but we’ll be set up good for next season, we’ll always be after the 4th 5th or 6th spot like you say, Sunderland haven’t gone mad but that’s taken them 2 seasons to put that team together, still don’t get why we don’t have loans, could be the difference ?
Yep we have it a go. Not like to todayI must have dreamt that Saturday when I went to Wolves... Then again, recency bias!
Fair enough. I see your frustration.Yep we have it a go. Not like to today
I meant more about the quality of player and TBH we’re not going to get much more for Thomas and binks when we sell them on, we’ve spent 3 million on one of the best players in the league, hopefully that’s the start of many more, difference is we sold hamer got a few quid and we’ve not been the same since, Sunderland sold probably their best player ( clarke) and theyv’e got better, our recruitment and spendings been shocking2 22 year olds for the cost of one 29 year old (less I think Thomas £2m and Binks £1.3M) isn’t crazy. The players we’ve signed have been poor across the board. First touch and general ability on the ball is some of the worst I’ve seen even for the better players. And the ones with good technique (Dasilva and Sakamoto only really) are weak and small and generally can’t impose themselves on the game.
I meant more about the quality of player and TBH we’re not going to get much more for Thomas and binks when we sell them on, we’ve spent 3 million on one of the best players in the league, hopefully that’s the start of many more
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