ajsccfc
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There are 173 posts before yours if that helps.
Coventry City Ladies. (4 Viewers)
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There are 173 posts before yours if that helps.
duffer
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There's something there in the quote from the original article, about retaining all of the rights and history or something like that. I read that as meaning that they were claiming Coventry City Ladies as their own, despite now being Coventry United Ladies.
I could well be wrong, but it struck me as an odd thing to say...
Kind of the same thing AFC Wimbledon said when setting up. Not trying to draw a parallel. You're right though, does sound a little odd.
A number of the points made during the course of this thread show a degree of misunderstanding of the circumstances relating to Coventry City Ladies and its new identity as Coventry United Ladies.
While we respect the rights of members to comment we feel we should set a few things straight for the sakes of clarity
1) Changes of name and kit made without consultation
The final decision to change kit/badge/name was taken AFTER consultation with the majority of those associated with the club, ie.players, staff and parents ....and AFTER we had met with Steve Waggot and members of Coventry City staff.
In the case of CCLFC there are few regular supporters who have no other connection to the club. While a very small number have expressed their disappointment, the move has been welcomed by most of our “family”.
2) The Ladies needed extra funding to pay additional cost of playing in the FA Premier League South
Playing in the South adds approximately 5% to our annual budget. This was not a factor in negotiations with Coventry United, which took place prior to the disclosure that the club had been constituted to play in the South (subject to Premier League sanction and FA Approval)
3) CCLFC made a conscious decision to relocate outside of Coventry for financial gain
The Ladies returned to the Bedworth Oval when displaced from the Ricoh Arena as a direct result of Wasps moving in and playing matches on Sundays.
Ricoh Arena is the ONLY football ground within the City boundary that meets FA Women’s Premier League Ground Grading criteria. This prevents the Ladies’ club from naming (say) Sphinx, Copsewood, Higgs, etc as a first option home ground. The Bedworth Oval is the closest available facility that meets the prescribed Ground Criteria and is of an excellent standard.
4) The move to Bedworth was to get into Northern section at the expense of Copsewood
The suggestion that the move to Bedworth Oval was undertaken in order to jettison another Coventry team to the South is well-wide of the mark. Ricoh Arena was already further north and therefore returning to the Bedworth Oval had zero impact on the allocation of Copsewood to the Southern Section.
5) CCLFC chose not to play the County Cup Final at the Ricoh
The venue for the Birmingham County Cup Final is chosen (surprisingly enough!) by the Birmingham County FA.
We did facilitate an introduction for the County FA committee to meet ACL management staff (and even worded Copsewood's plea to host the 2013-14 Final at Ricoh on Copsewood's behalf!) Although the final featured two teams from Coventry, Birmingham FA made their choice of Banks’s / Bescott Stadium in Walsall based on consideration of all factors they considered relevant.
6) CCLFC deliberately played their games on a Sunday during 2013/14 season to clash with CCFC games at Sixfields
We do not choose when we play; Sunday 14:00 is the kick off time designated by the FA (it can be varied by mutual consent between clubs +/- 2 hours) and that has always been the case. The conflicting kick off times came about because Northampton Town’s home games took priority at Sixfields on no less than nine occasions during the 2013-14 season, requiring CCFC to play on Sundays.
7) CCLFC antagonistic actions show that relationships with CCFC were beyond repair
The working relationship between the Ladies and CCFC has always been excellent; and our last meeting on 1st July, at which we consulted with them on our potential ‘change’ was as cordial and friendly as ever. Both parties wish only the best for each other in future and there is certainly nothing antagonistic about our move.
Most of the Directors of the Ladies’ club are long-standing supporters of CCFC and will remain so.
8) Funding from CCFC has been denied because CCLFC Directors (specifically our Finance Director) acted to deprive CCFC of revenue through the boycott of Sixfields
CCFC have never funded the Ladies’ club. They have provided no cost support (such as matchday programme page/and exposure for upcoming games, etc). This is not a situation that has changed since the current Ladies' club was reformed in 1991.
This did not change before, during or after the season that CCFC spent at Sixfields. This Director’s appointment was made in February 2015, sometime after the men’s team returned to Ricoh Arena. His appointment to the Board has no bearing on the excellent relationship the club has enjoyed with CCFC.
Thank you all for your interest in the future of the Ladies club, and in the women’s game generally.
While we respect the rights of members to comment we feel we should set a few things straight for the sakes of clarity
1) Changes of name and kit made without consultation
The final decision to change kit/badge/name was taken AFTER consultation with the majority of those associated with the club, ie.players, staff and parents ....and AFTER we had met with Steve Waggot and members of Coventry City staff.
In the case of CCLFC there are few regular supporters who have no other connection to the club. While a very small number have expressed their disappointment, the move has been welcomed by most of our “family”.
2) The Ladies needed extra funding to pay additional cost of playing in the FA Premier League South
Playing in the South adds approximately 5% to our annual budget. This was not a factor in negotiations with Coventry United, which took place prior to the disclosure that the club had been constituted to play in the South (subject to Premier League sanction and FA Approval)
3) CCLFC made a conscious decision to relocate outside of Coventry for financial gain
The Ladies returned to the Bedworth Oval when displaced from the Ricoh Arena as a direct result of Wasps moving in and playing matches on Sundays.
Ricoh Arena is the ONLY football ground within the City boundary that meets FA Women’s Premier League Ground Grading criteria. This prevents the Ladies’ club from naming (say) Sphinx, Copsewood, Higgs, etc as a first option home ground. The Bedworth Oval is the closest available facility that meets the prescribed Ground Criteria and is of an excellent standard.
4) The move to Bedworth was to get into Northern section at the expense of Copsewood
The suggestion that the move to Bedworth Oval was undertaken in order to jettison another Coventry team to the South is well-wide of the mark. Ricoh Arena was already further north and therefore returning to the Bedworth Oval had zero impact on the allocation of Copsewood to the Southern Section.
5) CCLFC chose not to play the County Cup Final at the Ricoh
The venue for the Birmingham County Cup Final is chosen (surprisingly enough!) by the Birmingham County FA.
We did facilitate an introduction for the County FA committee to meet ACL management staff (and even worded Copsewood's plea to host the 2013-14 Final at Ricoh on Copsewood's behalf!) Although the final featured two teams from Coventry, Birmingham FA made their choice of Banks’s / Bescott Stadium in Walsall based on consideration of all factors they considered relevant.
6) CCLFC deliberately played their games on a Sunday during 2013/14 season to clash with CCFC games at Sixfields
We do not choose when we play; Sunday 14:00 is the kick off time designated by the FA (it can be varied by mutual consent between clubs +/- 2 hours) and that has always been the case. The conflicting kick off times came about because Northampton Town’s home games took priority at Sixfields on no less than nine occasions during the 2013-14 season, requiring CCFC to play on Sundays.
7) CCLFC antagonistic actions show that relationships with CCFC were beyond repair
The working relationship between the Ladies and CCFC has always been excellent; and our last meeting on 1st July, at which we consulted with them on our potential ‘change’ was as cordial and friendly as ever. Both parties wish only the best for each other in future and there is certainly nothing antagonistic about our move.
Most of the Directors of the Ladies’ club are long-standing supporters of CCFC and will remain so.
8) Funding from CCFC has been denied because CCLFC Directors (specifically our Finance Director) acted to deprive CCFC of revenue through the boycott of Sixfields
CCFC have never funded the Ladies’ club. They have provided no cost support (such as matchday programme page/and exposure for upcoming games, etc). This is not a situation that has changed since the current Ladies' club was reformed in 1991.
This did not change before, during or after the season that CCFC spent at Sixfields. This Director’s appointment was made in February 2015, sometime after the men’s team returned to Ricoh Arena. His appointment to the Board has no bearing on the excellent relationship the club has enjoyed with CCFC.
Thank you all for your interest in the future of the Ladies club, and in the women’s game generally.
Cov United LADIES
A number of the points made during the course of this thread show a degree of misunderstanding of the circumstances relating to Coventry City Ladies and its new identity as Coventry United Ladies.
While we respect the rights of members to comment we feel we should set a few things straight for the sakes of clarity
1) Changes of name and kit made without consultation
The final decision to change kit/badge/name was taken AFTER consultation with the majority of those associated with the club, ie.players, staff and parents ....and AFTER we had met with Steve Waggot and members of Coventry City staff.
In the case of CCLFC there are few regular supporters who have no other connection to the club. While a very small number have expressed their disappointment, the move has been welcomed by most of our “family”.
2) The Ladies needed extra funding to pay additional cost of playing in the FA Premier League South
Playing in the South adds approximately 5% to our annual budget. This was not a factor in negotiations with Coventry United, which took place prior to the disclosure that the club had been constituted to play in the South (subject to Premier League sanction and FA Approval)
3) CCLFC made a conscious decision to relocate outside of Coventry for financial gain
The Ladies returned to the Bedworth Oval when displaced from the Ricoh Arena as a direct result of Wasps moving in and playing matches on Sundays.
Ricoh Arena is the ONLY football ground within the City boundary that meets FA Women’s Premier League Ground Grading criteria. This prevents the Ladies’ club from naming (say) Sphinx, Copsewood, Higgs, etc as a first option home ground. The Bedworth Oval is the closest available facility that meets the prescribed Ground Criteria and is of an excellent standard.
4) The move to Bedworth was to get into Northern section at the expense of Copsewood
The suggestion that the move to Bedworth Oval was undertaken in order to jettison another Coventry team to the South is well-wide of the mark. Ricoh Arena was already further north and therefore returning to the Bedworth Oval had zero impact on the allocation of Copsewood to the Southern Section.
5) CCLFC chose not to play the County Cup Final at the Ricoh
The venue for the Birmingham County Cup Final is chosen (surprisingly enough!) by the Birmingham County FA.
We did facilitate an introduction for the County FA committee to meet ACL management staff (and even worded Copsewood's plea to host the 2013-14 Final at Ricoh on Copsewood's behalf!) Although the final featured two teams from Coventry, Birmingham FA made their choice of Banks’s / Bescott Stadium in Walsall based on consideration of all factors they considered relevant.
6) CCLFC deliberately played their games on a Sunday during 2013/14 season to clash with CCFC games at Sixfields
We do not choose when we play; Sunday 14:00 is the kick off time designated by the FA (it can be varied by mutual consent between clubs +/- 2 hours) and that has always been the case. The conflicting kick off times came about because Northampton Town’s home games took priority at Sixfields on no less than nine occasions during the 2013-14 season, requiring CCFC to play on Sundays.
7) CCLFC antagonistic actions show that relationships with CCFC were beyond repair
The working relationship between the Ladies and CCFC has always been excellent; and our last meeting on 1st July, at which we consulted with them on our potential ‘change’ was as cordial and friendly as ever. Both parties wish only the best for each other in future and there is certainly nothing antagonistic about our move.
Most of the Directors of the Ladies’ club are long-standing supporters of CCFC and will remain so.
8) Funding from CCFC has been denied because CCLFC Directors (specifically our Finance Director) acted to deprive CCFC of revenue through the boycott of Sixfields
CCFC have never funded the Ladies’ club. They have provided no cost support (such as matchday programme page/and exposure for upcoming games, etc). This is not a situation that has changed since the current Ladies' club was reformed in 1991.
This did not change before, during or after the season that CCFC spent at Sixfields. This Director’s appointment was made in February 2015, sometime after the men’s team returned to Ricoh Arena. His appointment to the Board has no bearing on the excellent relationship the club has enjoyed with CCFC.
Thank you all for your interest in the future of the Ladies club, and in the women’s game generally.
A number of the points made during the course of this thread show a degree of misunderstanding of the circumstances relating to Coventry City Ladies and its new identity as Coventry United Ladies.
While we respect the rights of members to comment we feel we should set a few things straight for the sakes of clarity
1) Changes of name and kit made without consultation
The final decision to change kit/badge/name was taken AFTER consultation with the majority of those associated with the club, ie.players, staff and parents ....and AFTER we had met with Steve Waggot and members of Coventry City staff.
In the case of CCLFC there are few regular supporters who have no other connection to the club. While a very small number have expressed their disappointment, the move has been welcomed by most of our “family”.
2) The Ladies needed extra funding to pay additional cost of playing in the FA Premier League South
Playing in the South adds approximately 5% to our annual budget. This was not a factor in negotiations with Coventry United, which took place prior to the disclosure that the club had been constituted to play in the South (subject to Premier League sanction and FA Approval)
3) CCLFC made a conscious decision to relocate outside of Coventry for financial gain
The Ladies returned to the Bedworth Oval when displaced from the Ricoh Arena as a direct result of Wasps moving in and playing matches on Sundays.
Ricoh Arena is the ONLY football ground within the City boundary that meets FA Women’s Premier League Ground Grading criteria. This prevents the Ladies’ club from naming (say) Sphinx, Copsewood, Higgs, etc as a first option home ground. The Bedworth Oval is the closest available facility that meets the prescribed Ground Criteria and is of an excellent standard.
4) The move to Bedworth was to get into Northern section at the expense of Copsewood
The suggestion that the move to Bedworth Oval was undertaken in order to jettison another Coventry team to the South is well-wide of the mark. Ricoh Arena was already further north and therefore returning to the Bedworth Oval had zero impact on the allocation of Copsewood to the Southern Section.
5) CCLFC chose not to play the County Cup Final at the Ricoh
The venue for the Birmingham County Cup Final is chosen (surprisingly enough!) by the Birmingham County FA.
We did facilitate an introduction for the County FA committee to meet ACL management staff (and even worded Copsewood's plea to host the 2013-14 Final at Ricoh on Copsewood's behalf!) Although the final featured two teams from Coventry, Birmingham FA made their choice of Banks’s / Bescott Stadium in Walsall based on consideration of all factors they considered relevant.
6) CCLFC deliberately played their games on a Sunday during 2013/14 season to clash with CCFC games at Sixfields
We do not choose when we play; Sunday 14:00 is the kick off time designated by the FA (it can be varied by mutual consent between clubs +/- 2 hours) and that has always been the case. The conflicting kick off times came about because Northampton Town’s home games took priority at Sixfields on no less than nine occasions during the 2013-14 season, requiring CCFC to play on Sundays.
7) CCLFC antagonistic actions show that relationships with CCFC were beyond repair
The working relationship between the Ladies and CCFC has always been excellent; and our last meeting on 1st July, at which we consulted with them on our potential ‘change’ was as cordial and friendly as ever. Both parties wish only the best for each other in future and there is certainly nothing antagonistic about our move.
Most of the Directors of the Ladies’ club are long-standing supporters of CCFC and will remain so.
8) Funding from CCFC has been denied because CCLFC Directors (specifically our Finance Director) acted to deprive CCFC of revenue through the boycott of Sixfields
CCFC have never funded the Ladies’ club. They have provided no cost support (such as matchday programme page/and exposure for upcoming games, etc). This is not a situation that has changed since the current Ladies' club was reformed in 1991.
This did not change before, during or after the season that CCFC spent at Sixfields. This Director’s appointment was made in February 2015, sometime after the men’s team returned to Ricoh Arena. His appointment to the Board has no bearing on the excellent relationship the club has enjoyed with CCFC.
Thank you all for your interest in the future of the Ladies club, and in the women’s game generally.
Coventry United Ladies FC
A number of the points made during the course of this thread show a degree of misunderstanding of the circumstances relating to Coventry City Ladies and its new identity as Coventry United Ladies. While we respect the rights of members to comment, we would like to take this opportunity to put the record straight for the purpose of providing some clarity.
1) Changes of name and kit made without consultation
The final decision to change kit/badge/name was taken AFTER consultation with the majority of those associated with the Ladies’ club ie.players, staff and parents ....and AFTER we had met with Steve Waggot and members of CCFC staff.
In the case of the Ladies club, there are relatively few regular supporters who have no other connection to the club. While a very small number have expressed their disappointment, the move has been welcomed by most of our “family”.
2) The Ladies needed extra funding to cover the cost of playing in the FA Premier League South
Playing in the South adds approximately an extra 5% to our annual budget. Negotiations with Coventry United were completed prior to the Ladies being constituted to play in the South (subject to FA Premier League sanction and FA approval) so was simply not a factor in any decision.
3) CCLFC made a conscious decision to relocate outside the City boundary for financial gain
The Ladies moved back to the Bedworth Oval when displaced from Ricoh Arena as a direct consequence of Wasps moving in and playing matches on Sundays.
Ricoh Arena is the ONLY football ground within the City boundary that meets FA Women’s Premier League Ground Grading criteria.
This prevents us from naming (say) Sphinx, Copsewood, Higgs etc. as a first option home ground.
The Bedworth Oval is the nearest facility that meets the prescribed minimum criteria and is of an excellent standard.
4) The move to Bedworth was to get into Northern section at the expense of Copsewood
The suggestion that the move to Bedworth Oval was undertaken in order to jettison another Coventry team to the South is well-wide of the mark.
Ricoh Arena was already further north and the subsequent return to the Bedworth Oval had zero impact on the allocation of Copsewood to the Southern Section.
5) CCLFC chose not to play the County Cup Final at the Ricoh
The venue for the Birmingham County Cup Final is chosen (surprisingly enough!) by the Birmingham County FA.
We did facilitate an introduction for the County FA committee to meet with ACL management staff (and even worded Copsewood's plea to host the 2013-14 Final at Ricoh Arena …on Copsewood's behalf!).
Although the final featured two teams from Coventry, Birmingham FA made their choice of Banks’s / Bescott Stadium in Walsall based on consideration of all factors they considered relevant.
6) CCLFC deliberately played their games on a Sunday during 2013/14 season to clash with CCFC games at Sixfields
We do not choose when we play; Sunday 14:00 is the kick off time designated by the FA (it can be varied by mutual consent between clubs +/- 2 hours) and that has always been the case.
The conflicting kick off times came about because Northampton Town fixtures had priority at Sixfields, obliging CCFC to move home matches to a Sunday on nine occasions during 2013-14.
7) CCLFC antagonistic actions show that relationships with CCFC were beyond repair
The working relationship between the Ladies’ club and CCFC has always been excellent; and our last meeting on 1st July at which we consulted on our impending changes was as cordial and friendly as ever. Both parties wish only the best for each other in future and there is certainly nothing antagonistic about our move. Most of the Directors of the the Ladies’ club are long-standing supporters of CCFC and will remain so.
8) Funding from CCFC has been denied because CCLFC Directors (specifically our Finance Director) acted to deprive CCFC of revenue through the boycott of Sixfields
CCFC have never funded the Ladies. They have provided no cost support (such as matchday programme page/and exposure for upcoming games, etc). This is not a situation that has changed since the current Ladies' club was reformed in 1991 and it has not changed before, during or after the season that CCFC spent at Sixfields.
Our Finance Director was only appointed in February 2015, sometime AFTER CCFC returned to the Ricoh Arena and his appointment has had no bearing or impact on any aspect of the relationship between the Ladies club and CCFC.
In conclusion, we trust that these responses correct any unfortunate misunderstandings and we are gratified to see so much interest in the future of the Ladies, and in the women’s game generally. United we Achieve.
A number of the points made during the course of this thread show a degree of misunderstanding of the circumstances relating to Coventry City Ladies and its new identity as Coventry United Ladies. While we respect the rights of members to comment, we would like to take this opportunity to put the record straight for the purpose of providing some clarity.
1) Changes of name and kit made without consultation
The final decision to change kit/badge/name was taken AFTER consultation with the majority of those associated with the Ladies’ club ie.players, staff and parents ....and AFTER we had met with Steve Waggot and members of CCFC staff.
In the case of the Ladies club, there are relatively few regular supporters who have no other connection to the club. While a very small number have expressed their disappointment, the move has been welcomed by most of our “family”.
2) The Ladies needed extra funding to cover the cost of playing in the FA Premier League South
Playing in the South adds approximately an extra 5% to our annual budget. Negotiations with Coventry United were completed prior to the Ladies being constituted to play in the South (subject to FA Premier League sanction and FA approval) so was simply not a factor in any decision.
3) CCLFC made a conscious decision to relocate outside the City boundary for financial gain
The Ladies moved back to the Bedworth Oval when displaced from Ricoh Arena as a direct consequence of Wasps moving in and playing matches on Sundays.
Ricoh Arena is the ONLY football ground within the City boundary that meets FA Women’s Premier League Ground Grading criteria.
This prevents us from naming (say) Sphinx, Copsewood, Higgs etc. as a first option home ground.
The Bedworth Oval is the nearest facility that meets the prescribed minimum criteria and is of an excellent standard.
4) The move to Bedworth was to get into Northern section at the expense of Copsewood
The suggestion that the move to Bedworth Oval was undertaken in order to jettison another Coventry team to the South is well-wide of the mark.
Ricoh Arena was already further north and the subsequent return to the Bedworth Oval had zero impact on the allocation of Copsewood to the Southern Section.
5) CCLFC chose not to play the County Cup Final at the Ricoh
The venue for the Birmingham County Cup Final is chosen (surprisingly enough!) by the Birmingham County FA.
We did facilitate an introduction for the County FA committee to meet with ACL management staff (and even worded Copsewood's plea to host the 2013-14 Final at Ricoh Arena …on Copsewood's behalf!).
Although the final featured two teams from Coventry, Birmingham FA made their choice of Banks’s / Bescott Stadium in Walsall based on consideration of all factors they considered relevant.
6) CCLFC deliberately played their games on a Sunday during 2013/14 season to clash with CCFC games at Sixfields
We do not choose when we play; Sunday 14:00 is the kick off time designated by the FA (it can be varied by mutual consent between clubs +/- 2 hours) and that has always been the case.
The conflicting kick off times came about because Northampton Town fixtures had priority at Sixfields, obliging CCFC to move home matches to a Sunday on nine occasions during 2013-14.
7) CCLFC antagonistic actions show that relationships with CCFC were beyond repair
The working relationship between the Ladies’ club and CCFC has always been excellent; and our last meeting on 1st July at which we consulted on our impending changes was as cordial and friendly as ever. Both parties wish only the best for each other in future and there is certainly nothing antagonistic about our move. Most of the Directors of the the Ladies’ club are long-standing supporters of CCFC and will remain so.
8) Funding from CCFC has been denied because CCLFC Directors (specifically our Finance Director) acted to deprive CCFC of revenue through the boycott of Sixfields
CCFC have never funded the Ladies. They have provided no cost support (such as matchday programme page/and exposure for upcoming games, etc). This is not a situation that has changed since the current Ladies' club was reformed in 1991 and it has not changed before, during or after the season that CCFC spent at Sixfields.
Our Finance Director was only appointed in February 2015, sometime AFTER CCFC returned to the Ricoh Arena and his appointment has had no bearing or impact on any aspect of the relationship between the Ladies club and CCFC.
In conclusion, we trust that these responses correct any unfortunate misunderstandings and we are gratified to see so much interest in the future of the Ladies, and in the women’s game generally. United we Achieve.
lamtara2006
Member
The Ladies Club have been trying to post the response below since yesterday afternoon. I now add the paragraphs following on behalf of the Club without personal comment.
A number of the points made during the course of this thread show a degree of misunderstanding of the circumstances relating to Coventry City Ladies and its new identity as Coventry United Ladies. While we respect the rights of members to comment, we would like to take this opportunity to put the record straight for the purpose of providing some clarity.
1) Changes of name and kit made without consultation
The final decision to change kit/badge/name was taken AFTER consultation with the majority of those associated with the Ladies’ club ie.players, staff and parents ....and AFTER we had met with Steve Waggot and members of CCFC staff.
In the case of the Ladies club, there are relatively few regular supporters who have no other connection to the club. While a very small number have expressed their disappointment, the move has been welcomed by most of our “family”.
2) The Ladies needed extra funding to cover the cost of playing in the FA Premier League South
Playing in the South adds approximately an extra 5% to our annual budget. Negotiations with Coventry United were completed prior to the Ladies being constituted to play in the South (subject to FA Premier League sanction and FA approval) so was simply not a factor in any decision.
3) CCLFC made a conscious decision to relocate outside the City boundary for financial gain
The Ladies moved back to the Bedworth Oval when displaced from Ricoh Arena as a direct consequence of Wasps moving in and playing matches on Sundays.
Ricoh Arena is the ONLY football ground within the City boundary that meets FA Women’s Premier League Ground Grading criteria.
This prevents us from naming (say) Sphinx, Copsewood, Higgs etc. as a first option home ground.
The Bedworth Oval is the nearest facility that meets the prescribed minimum criteria and is of an excellent standard.
4) The move to Bedworth was to get into Northern section at the expense of Copsewood
The suggestion that the move to Bedworth Oval was undertaken in order to jettison another Coventry team to the South is well-wide of the mark.
Ricoh Arena was already further north and the subsequent return to the Bedworth Oval had zero impact on the allocation of Copsewood to the Southern Section.
5) CCLFC chose not to play the County Cup Final at the Ricoh
The venue for the Birmingham County Cup Final is chosen (surprisingly enough!) by the Birmingham County FA.
We did facilitate an introduction for the County FA committee to meet with ACL management staff (and even worded Copsewood's plea to host the 2013-14 Final at Ricoh Arena …on Copsewood's behalf!).
Although the final featured two teams from Coventry, Birmingham FA made their choice of Banks’s / Bescott Stadium in Walsall based on consideration of all factors they considered relevant.
6) CCLFC deliberately played their games on a Sunday during 2013/14 season to clash with CCFC games at Sixfields
We do not choose when we play; Sunday 14:00 is the kick off time designated by the FA (it can be varied by mutual consent between clubs +/- 2 hours) and that has always been the case.
The conflicting kick off times came about because Northampton Town fixtures had priority at Sixfields, obliging CCFC to move home matches to a Sunday on nine occasions during 2013-14.
7) CCLFC antagonistic actions show that relationships with CCFC were beyond repair
The working relationship between the Ladies’ club and CCFC has always been excellent; and our last meeting on 1st July at which we consulted on our impending changes was as cordial and friendly as ever. Both parties wish only the best for each other in future and there is certainly nothing antagonistic about our move. Most of the Directors of the Ladies’ club are long-standing supporters of CCFC and will remain so.
8) Funding from CCFC has been denied because CCLFC Directors (specifically our Finance Director) acted to deprive CCFC of revenue through the boycott of Sixfields
CCFC have never funded the Ladies. They have provided no cost support (such as matchday programme page/and exposure for upcoming games, etc). This is not a situation that has changed since the current Ladies' club was reformed in 1991 and it has not changed before, during or after the season that CCFC spent at Sixfields.
Our Finance Director was only appointed in February 2015, sometime AFTER CCFC returned to the Ricoh Arena and his appointment has had no bearing or impact on any aspect of the relationship between the Ladies club and CCFC.
In conclusion, we trust that these responses correct any unfortunate misunderstandings and we are gratified to see so much interest in the future of the Ladies, and in the women’s game generally.
United we Achieve.
A number of the points made during the course of this thread show a degree of misunderstanding of the circumstances relating to Coventry City Ladies and its new identity as Coventry United Ladies. While we respect the rights of members to comment, we would like to take this opportunity to put the record straight for the purpose of providing some clarity.
1) Changes of name and kit made without consultation
The final decision to change kit/badge/name was taken AFTER consultation with the majority of those associated with the Ladies’ club ie.players, staff and parents ....and AFTER we had met with Steve Waggot and members of CCFC staff.
In the case of the Ladies club, there are relatively few regular supporters who have no other connection to the club. While a very small number have expressed their disappointment, the move has been welcomed by most of our “family”.
2) The Ladies needed extra funding to cover the cost of playing in the FA Premier League South
Playing in the South adds approximately an extra 5% to our annual budget. Negotiations with Coventry United were completed prior to the Ladies being constituted to play in the South (subject to FA Premier League sanction and FA approval) so was simply not a factor in any decision.
3) CCLFC made a conscious decision to relocate outside the City boundary for financial gain
The Ladies moved back to the Bedworth Oval when displaced from Ricoh Arena as a direct consequence of Wasps moving in and playing matches on Sundays.
Ricoh Arena is the ONLY football ground within the City boundary that meets FA Women’s Premier League Ground Grading criteria.
This prevents us from naming (say) Sphinx, Copsewood, Higgs etc. as a first option home ground.
The Bedworth Oval is the nearest facility that meets the prescribed minimum criteria and is of an excellent standard.
4) The move to Bedworth was to get into Northern section at the expense of Copsewood
The suggestion that the move to Bedworth Oval was undertaken in order to jettison another Coventry team to the South is well-wide of the mark.
Ricoh Arena was already further north and the subsequent return to the Bedworth Oval had zero impact on the allocation of Copsewood to the Southern Section.
5) CCLFC chose not to play the County Cup Final at the Ricoh
The venue for the Birmingham County Cup Final is chosen (surprisingly enough!) by the Birmingham County FA.
We did facilitate an introduction for the County FA committee to meet with ACL management staff (and even worded Copsewood's plea to host the 2013-14 Final at Ricoh Arena …on Copsewood's behalf!).
Although the final featured two teams from Coventry, Birmingham FA made their choice of Banks’s / Bescott Stadium in Walsall based on consideration of all factors they considered relevant.
6) CCLFC deliberately played their games on a Sunday during 2013/14 season to clash with CCFC games at Sixfields
We do not choose when we play; Sunday 14:00 is the kick off time designated by the FA (it can be varied by mutual consent between clubs +/- 2 hours) and that has always been the case.
The conflicting kick off times came about because Northampton Town fixtures had priority at Sixfields, obliging CCFC to move home matches to a Sunday on nine occasions during 2013-14.
7) CCLFC antagonistic actions show that relationships with CCFC were beyond repair
The working relationship between the Ladies’ club and CCFC has always been excellent; and our last meeting on 1st July at which we consulted on our impending changes was as cordial and friendly as ever. Both parties wish only the best for each other in future and there is certainly nothing antagonistic about our move. Most of the Directors of the Ladies’ club are long-standing supporters of CCFC and will remain so.
8) Funding from CCFC has been denied because CCLFC Directors (specifically our Finance Director) acted to deprive CCFC of revenue through the boycott of Sixfields
CCFC have never funded the Ladies. They have provided no cost support (such as matchday programme page/and exposure for upcoming games, etc). This is not a situation that has changed since the current Ladies' club was reformed in 1991 and it has not changed before, during or after the season that CCFC spent at Sixfields.
Our Finance Director was only appointed in February 2015, sometime AFTER CCFC returned to the Ricoh Arena and his appointment has had no bearing or impact on any aspect of the relationship between the Ladies club and CCFC.
In conclusion, we trust that these responses correct any unfortunate misunderstandings and we are gratified to see so much interest in the future of the Ladies, and in the women’s game generally.
United we Achieve.
Excellent reply. Hopefully putting to bed lot of conclusions that were jumped to!
As I've said before...Good luck to the ladies team. Hopefully one team from the city will be in.the Premier league before too long!
Grendel
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That's your opinion - speak for yourself - are you a board member as well?
Rendell - I won't answer or reply to any of your posts or trolling from now on. You're simply too boring. "Speaking for myself [sic]" would go with having and opinion, and this forum is a great place for opinions.
How does that aphorism about opinions and everyone having one go again? Seems you having and being are inseparable for you!
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I was going to correct the autocorrect for your name, however even my phone thinks you're insignificant!
lifeskyblue
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I too wish Coventry ladies well....I wish they were a part of the greater Coventry City family but unfortunately they are not. I think an opportunity has been missed by the men's and women's teams by not forging closer links. I will always be sky blue and I hope/trust CCFC will form a new team. In the meantime good luck CUL
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Interesting idea there. Imagine if we (CCFC) did (some miracle, TM would become a saint!) get promoted. I wonder if it would be beneficial, economically or ideologically to create a new CCFC ladies team. Would the possibility to 'switch' back be feasible? Or like you suggest, would a new team be more likely to be set up?
It could be the Liverpool spawning from Everton of the ladies game!
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lifeskyblue
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Yes I believe a club should be based in and part of its community. We CCFC supporters understand the chaos, division and heartache when that is undermined. With women's football on a high after the World Cup and with its development at grass roots and league level over the last few years interest in the game from young girls through to the wider public will in my opinion grow further. Wouldn't it be ironic if in Coventry the United, copsewood and a future CCLFC develop a rivalry and standard of football that is the envy of the rest of the country
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It could be great. Success and competition breeds more success!
lifeskyblue
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Absolutely. Would be great for all
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Grendel
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lifeskyblue
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Maybe small at the moment but I think women's football is growing and will develop over the next few years. As the media takes more interest so more people will participate in and watch the game
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Grendel
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There is no evidence it is growing. It is absurdly over hyped by the BBC.
Now the competition has gone it's back to
lifeskyblue
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I think the number of girls playing football either in mixed teams or as they get older single sex teams is growing. I agree there is no certainty that this will lead to more interest in the higher reaches but I think that coupled to the success of the World Cup and the undoubted improvement in quality we saw there is an opportunity for the women's game to expand at all levels
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LJC_CCFC
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Have to agree with Grendel here, the women's game has been massively over hyped. It can only grow when the overall quality of the teams participating in a World Cup and the WSL leagues arrive at a level where it is entertaining to watch. Rather than trying to force it on to people by any means necessary - mainly Twitter et al - they need to pump that enthusiasm - and investment - into developing the game at grass roots level.
chiefdave
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I find that statement quite shocking. In my opinion football clubs should never change their name and branding and most certainly not without full consultation with the fanbase. What you appear to be saying here is you think it is fine to make wholesale changes as you discussed it among yourselves. You then to on to imply that casual supporters who can't attend every game can be dismissed as they are not part of your "family".
This is equivalent to SISU announcing we are going to be Coventry Rovers and play in red before telling us there was a consultation as Fisher, Waggott and Seppala had a discussion about it.
This is something that should definitely have been publicised. We were assured by CCC that Wasps arrival would not impact on Coventry City yet here is a clear example of where it has. Of course as Wasps are now no longer playing on Sundays are you not now able to return to the Ricoh?
You should probably have let the CT know that!
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/ricoh-arena-bosses-price-venue-7059244
Not sure I buy that to be honest. We all know what the football authorities are like when it comes to using their infamous discretion. Was there even any attempt to get the game moved to not clash with the mens game? I find it hard to believe it is impossible to move games. What if the mens team had been at the Ricoh that season and Sky had asked to move a game to the Sunday for TV, are you telling me they would have been told that was impossible due to a womens game?
Do you not think this sort of language would be seen by SISU as supportive of the club?
"Of course, this is also a great opportunity to see a Sky Blue team playing at the Ricoh, the true home of League One Coventry City who will be turning out at Sixfields on the same afternoon for their game against Port Vale. For those of us who don’t go to Northampton, Sunday is a wonderful opportunity to make a point by turning up at the Ricoh in large numbers. This would send a loud message to Sisu, the Football League and ACL/Coventry Council: we want to watch football in the City of Coventry, in our home stadium and we are not willing to wait 3-5 years for a new stadium ‘somewhere near Coventry’."
So there's no change in funding and the relationship with CCFC has always been excellent?
This just makes it a downright bizarre to have severed a long standing connection to CCFC in favour of Cov Utd.
Would also appreciate clarification on the situation with the Coventry City Ladies name, are you claiming continued ownership or is the club now free to setup its own womens team at some point in the future?
skybluetony176
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It is in my household. Ironically my youngest daughter who is already showing an interest in football and has been to a CCFC game asked if we could go to watch CCFCL only the day before this story broke. My eldest daughter is now also showing an interest wanted to jump on the band wagon and come. Guess that ain't going to happen now.
What you fail to recognise is that women's football and the raising of the profile isn't just happening of the back of the BBC, my daughters school is also strongly promoting it as I imagine is every other school in the country and they have seized the success of England Ladies in the world cup to drive this.
You may be right in that there is CURRENTLY no evidence but then again the football season hasn't kicked off yet so why would there be? Let's see wait and see what happens at grass roots with the amount of females wanting to play the game and the amount of people wanting to watch before making such sweeping statements shall we?
I was told by one of the board members at Coventry Utd and by one of the coaches of the ladies team who I know through my work. You judgmental prick
Captain Dart
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I thought the problem was that they are in a southern league because they are the furthest south club in their area, which means they have to travel long distances to away games & that is what costs the money.
Edit, though looking at their fixtures last year, they played Newcastle some other teams that are a long way (but also Midlands teams, Derby, Wolves etc).. so I don't know if my assumptions are wholly right.
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Grendel
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Which board member was that? The one who tried to encourage fans to not support ccfc and support their team instead?
Why does it matter which board member it was? I'm talking about the subject of this thread, not what happened in the past.
What's officially stated and the reality are two different things. Two people who know what has happened behind the scenes told me that CCFC had very little intention of investing in ladies football. What those investments include are renting Bedworth Utd's 3G pitch (it is expensive), training costs, kit costs etc.
Now personally I think in the long term CCFC are missing a trick as ladies football is on the rise.
torchomatic
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Of course you do. Another stick to beat the club with.
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Grendel
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Perhaps board directors shouldn't slag the clubs owners on Twitter then
I bet Man Utd are desperately worried there is no women's team associated with them. All those fans going to support city.....
Reading up it seems we haven't made ourselves clear enough. For the record:
i) the Ladies club has always had a very good relationship with CCFC. Steve Waggott has attended past board meetings and even came to Wembley to support our Super League application. There is not and never has been an issue between us.
ii) Playing in the south adds approx 5% to our annual budget.
iii) Our budget is almost certainly considerably more than that of local non league sides.
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i) the Ladies club has always had a very good relationship with CCFC. Steve Waggott has attended past board meetings and even came to Wembley to support our Super League application. There is not and never has been an issue between us.
ii) Playing in the south adds approx 5% to our annual budget.
iii) Our budget is almost certainly considerably more than that of local non league sides.
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torchomatic
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But Procdoc said....etc etc
All a storm in a teacup.
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Grendel
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Procdoc is talking crap then
Club have been very reasonable under the circumstances -.time to move on.