clint van damme
Well-Known Member
Not really. Its exactly what I'd expect.
Seems odd for him to be welcoming Elphicke into the party with open arms when Abbott is still suspended from it
If he's happy to rejoin a party without an atmosphere then I'm sure he'll be welcomed back.Seems odd for him to be welcoming Elphicke into the party with open arms when Abbott is still suspended from it
Ok, it's odd for anyone who doesn't have double standards.Not really. Its exactly what I'd expect.
Losing the party whip happens because you won’t follow message not because they don’t like your face. Corbyn and Abbott have spent time attacking the party from within and refusing to apologise. Elphinke whether you believe her or not has stuck to message and apologised when asked.
The difference is just that you also don’t think Corbyn and Abbott should follow the party line.
It's a big tent isn't it?
It's a big tent isn't it?
Natalie Elphicke must have voted against the Labour whip 100s of times in the past - it's high time she was suspended from the party
Not sure if genuinely stupid or just pretending for the lols. But obviously she hasn’t because she wasn’t under the whip until recently.
It was obviously a facetious comment. She said Labour has changed, is she hinting at it having changed to the extent that she would be happy to tow the party line now on various issues?
If you really think Starmer could run a right wing policy platform in government with the MPs he has and not face a rebellion from his massive majority who will feel empowered then you need to study electoral politics more TBH.
Like I said the other day, I'm prepared to wait and see. His front bench though appear very content with a right wing policy platform, in particular the COE and the SoSHSC.
Losing the party whip happens because you won’t follow message not because they don’t like your face. Corbyn and Abbott have spent time attacking the party from within and refusing to apologise. Elphinke whether you believe her or not has stuck to message and apologised when asked.
The difference is just that you also don’t think Corbyn and Abbott should follow the party line.
That's not quite true, is it?
Abbot did not lose the whip for rebelling, she lost it for a single letter to the Guardian for which she quickly apologised.
Labour, under Starmer, is quite obviously not a broad church - I would that it was.
The 'broad church' claim is a complete fiction to justify Starmer ten minutes of political theatre at the expense of what little integrity he had left.
Given the negative publicity it's drawn, and the possible impact on more progressive voters, I don't think it's quite the act of political genius it's being pitched as hereabouts.
She publicly said stuff that could be construed as anti semitic at a time the party was trying to give out a message that Jews are welcome. I didn’t say rebelled because it’s not about voting. You can vote against the whip and not lose it, but you can’t show you are actively working against what the party is trying to do and expect to keep it.
The fact is both her and Corbyn lost the whip for being racist, not for being left wing.
Corbyn lost the whip for saying that antisemitism in the Labour party was overstated for political reasons. I don't think that is racism or even false, is it?
A judge has ruled that large parts of the government's Illegal Migration Act should not apply in Northern Ireland because they breach human rights laws.
He ruled some elements of the act are in breach of the Windsor Framework.
This is the revised post-Brexit deal agreed between the UK and European Union last year.
Mr Justice Humphreys also declared parts of the act to be incompatible with the European Convention on Human Rights.
Cunts - every single one of them.
I before E except after C my friendHas Rishi been recieving elocution lessons?
Are you my weird foreign neighbour who lifts weights ?I before E except after C my friend
Was always the planTotal and utter control
This post has gone through more revisions than a dodgy coursework dossier at a certain private schoolAre you my weird foreign neighbour who lifts weights ?
Edit: Should that be...
Are you my wierd foriegn nieghbour
who lifts wieghts?
Teachers? Fuck 'em.
She publicly said stuff that could be construed as anti semitic at a time the party was trying to give out a message that Jews are welcome. I didn’t say rebelled because it’s not about voting. You can vote against the whip and not lose it, but you can’t show you are actively working against what the party is trying to do and expect to keep it.
The fact is both her and Corbyn lost the whip for being racist, not for being left wing.
If you seriously believe that either Corbyn or Abbot are racist, I've got a bridge that you might like to buy.
The simple truth, that you're struggling to admit, a bit like Keir, is that if you're on the left of the party you are no longer welcome, and Starmer will find any excuse to kick you out.
In the meantime, if there's the possibility of a single vote in it, Starmer will welcome in right wing loons like Elphicke.
Broad church? Who are you trying to kid!
Labour commissioned its own independent report into racism in the party, the Forde report.
Here's the author of that report at a loss as to why Abbot has not had the whip reinstated. His point; others have done similar or worse, apologised and are now back in the fold.
‘Others have had it restored after worse things’: Forde report author says, as calls grow to return whip to Diane Abbott
The author of the Labour Party’s Forde report has said he is 'at a loss’ as to why Diane Abbott has not had the Labour whip restored.www.lbc.co.uk
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