shmmeee
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No one does from what I gather. It would be like calling working class people C2DEs
My Mrs is way more likely to be offended at being called BAME than anything else I think. Doesn't identify with that bullshit at all.
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No I don't think it should be illegal. I don't like it or agree with it, but it's their religion, none of my business.
And anyway all it's done in France is stoke both sides of the fire.
Plus going back to Johnson's comments it caused a big rise in Islamophobic incidents in this country, and you still don't think he should apologise?
My Mrs is way more likely to be offended at being called BAME than anything else I think. Doesn't identify with that bullshit at all.
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Christ what’s the point
Yes, the term is slowly being dropped, which is why I put it in apostrophes. Problem is, nobody appears to have told us what to replace it with, or not! I see the guardian has taken to referring to Black people, but I don't quite see how that fits is with the promoted concept of race as a social construct. Tricky waters to navigate as a civil servant!
Why am I not surprised you fail to see anything wrong with comments that lead to an increase in Islamophobic incidents (while being outraged at anti semitism in the Labour Party) .
RacismWhat is it that I have said that you don't understand? Yes, he was no doubt being anti-Muslim. Do you believe that there is a Muslim race? That would be odd, and factually incorrect.
But Labour members in this thread see the point you are blinded to?
No one does from what I gather. It would be like calling working class people C2DEs
It's not a Tory/Labour thing. You're the only one making it a Tory vs Labour thing.
Johnson made comments that lead to a massive spike in Islamophobic incidents. You think he shouldn't apologise, because he's on the team you support. If someone from Labour said it it's so obvious you'd be apoplectic about it.
You seem to think race isn’t a social construct. I’d be interested to hear your reasons and what you think the races are.
That’s not how government debt and taxation work. At all.
Feel free to plot tax as a % of GDP vs debt as a % of GDP to prove me wrong though.
Im making it a feeedom of Liberty thing which is expression of the individual despite race or gender - something you clearly oppose and have bigotry at the top of your agenda. I really think very few people will defend you on this
It's not a Tory/Labour thing. You're the only one making it a Tory vs Labour thing.
Johnson made comments that lead to a massive spike in Islamophobic incidents. You think he shouldn't apologise, because he's on the team you support. If someone from Labour said it it's so obvious you'd be apoplectic about it.
Im making it a feeedom of Liberty thing which is expression of the individual despite race or gender - something you clearly oppose and have bigotry at the top of your agenda. I really think very few people will defend you on this
Racism
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
By your example, anti-semitism is not racist, Judaism is a religion not a race.
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Not the point I’m making at all.
Government expenditure and the deficit has increased and this has largely been driven by COVID. Handing out pay increases to public sector workers just make sense given that context. A lot of private businesses would struggle to offer their staff 2-3% increases year on year after 2020/2021.
Sturgeon’s cynical 4% increase of nurse’s pay was political opportunism given that there was an election around the corner. It’s not like Scotland isn’t running one of the largest deficits in Europe and what does it matter either? Their deficit is subsidised.
Whatever your point is you keep refusing to accept that someone should apologise for saying something that lead to a huge spike in Islamophobic attacks. All because you've got your nose so far up his arse you can barely breathe.
The consensus seems to be he made some dickish comments about Muslims. That and the Tories more broadly have a problem with Islamophobia and general anti-Muslim sentiment that by proportion of membership is far bigger than the anti-Semitism complaints in Labour.
Yet when pressed you don't seem to have any problem with one of these
He was standing up for women and their rights of expression in a religion that views women as inferior. This is saying a lot about you and none of it is good sadly
No, I see race as a social construct.
He was standing up for women
Just fuck off. Don't try and project your thinly veiled racism on to me.
The consensus seems to be he made some dickish comments about Muslims. That and the Tories more broadly have a problem with Islamophobia and general anti-Muslim sentiment that by proportion of membership is far bigger than the anti-Semitism complaints in Labour.
Yet when pressed you don't seem to have any problem with one of these
You’ve admitted Muslim women have zero rights and living under male oppression and the burka has to be worn if the man insists on it
Own it you nasty little man
Fuck off you utter c**t.
You’ve admitted Muslim women have zero rights and living under male oppression and the burka has to be worn if the man insists on it
Own it you nasty little man
think this is acceptable PVA?
Woman beheaded after being warned to wear the burqa
Three young women have been killed – one beheaded – in Indian-controlled Kashmir, days after posters appeared in the state ordering Muslim women to wear burqas.www.google.co.uk
Yes it's perfectly acceptable, you got me.
Of course it's not ffs.
Nothing I've said suggests it is acceptable or that I think it's acceptable.
You think antisemitism is deplorable yet think Islamophobia is freedom of speech or some shit.
you think women in the U.K. have to look like freaks in the street even if they loath it and no one should help them m
shame on you
How fucking difficult is it for you to say Islamophobia is bad?
Can you bring yourself to say it?
How is it difficult to say women in a Muslim world are forced to wear clothes they despise and you believe this is acceptable
Not one poster on here is backing you. You are exposed and it’s an ugly look.
Own it - everyone can see you for what you are now
What are you talking about? Several people have said that Johnson's comments were appalling.
Still can't bring yourself to say Islamophobia is bad can you.
'own it'.
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