shmmeee
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No one does from what I gather. It would be like calling working class people C2DEs
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No one does from what I gather. It would be like calling working class people C2DEs
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Deleted member 4439
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Yes, the term is slowly being dropped, which is why I put it in apostrophes. Problem is, nobody appears to have told us what to replace it with, or not! I see the guardian has taken to referring to Black people, but I don't quite see how that fits is with the promoted concept of race as a social construct. Tricky waters to navigate as a civil servant!
Why am I not surprised you fail to see anything wrong with comments that lead to an increase in Islamophobic incidents (while being outraged at anti semitism in the Labour Party) .
shmmeee
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You seem to think race isn’t a social construct. I’d be interested to hear your reasons and what you think the races are.
stupot07
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Racism
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
By your example, anti-semitism is not racist, Judaism is a religion not a race.
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It's not a Tory/Labour thing. You're the only one making it a Tory vs Labour thing.
Johnson made comments that lead to a massive spike in Islamophobic incidents. You think he shouldn't apologise, because he's on the team you support. If someone from Labour said it it's so obvious you'd be apoplectic about it.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Which Star Wars was that character in again?
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No, I see race as a social construct.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Not the point I’m making at all.
Government expenditure and the deficit has increased and this has largely been driven by COVID. Handing out pay increases to public sector workers just make sense given that context. A lot of private businesses would struggle to offer their staff 2-3% increases year on year after 2020/2021.
Sturgeon’s cynical 4% increase of nurse’s pay was political opportunism given that there was an election around the corner. It’s not like Scotland isn’t running one of the largest deficits in Europe and what does it matter either? Their deficit is subsidised.
Whatever your point is you keep refusing to accept that someone should apologise for saying something that lead to a huge spike in Islamophobic attacks. All because you've got your nose so far up his arse you can barely breathe.
Brighton Sky Blue
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The consensus seems to be he made some dickish comments about Muslims. That and the Tories more broadly have a problem with Islamophobia and general anti-Muslim sentiment that by proportion of membership is far bigger than the anti-Semitism complaints in Labour.
Yet when pressed you don't seem to have any problem with one of these
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I cannot take seriously the position that criticism, even in the form of parody, against religious fundamentalism is racism, covering as it does the mass number of ethnicities that you would choose to conflate and remove of such identity. It's a defence used by those who wish to control the agenda.
And I think if you spoke with many, perhaps the majority of Jews they might disagree with you, and so even disagree with the concept of race as a social construct.
shmmeee
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I think offering higher pay to a profession spread pretty evenly geographically across the country is a pretty good idea in a recession where demand has dipped severely.
I don’t believe in using economics to mete out some kind of perceived “justice”, I want it to make the economy work as well as possible.
As you say the private sector is on its arse and can’t kick start the economy itself, so the broad shoulders of government have to step in.
Exactly this.
Just fuck off. Don't try and project your thinly veiled racism on to me.
shmmeee
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Apologies, I’d misread your tone to think you were sceptical.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Part of him always is
shmmeee
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This 100%. The polling of Tory members/voters attitudes to Muslims is eye watering.
Fuck off you utter c**t.
Grendel
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think this is acceptable PVA?
Woman beheaded after being warned to wear the burqa
Three young women have been killed – one beheaded – in Indian-controlled Kashmir, days after posters appeared in the state ordering Muslim women to wear burqas.
Brighton Sky Blue
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On the issues in the Tory party what are your thoughts on the views of Javid and Warsi on the Singh investigation?
Baroness Warsi ‘vindicated’ as Tory Islamophobia report criticises PM Johnson | Evening Standard
Grendel
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Fine by PVA - I’m sure all U.K. women have a choice
www.google.co.uk
Woman dragged and beaten for daring to dance and pull off her hijab
A crowd cheered as the woman was attacked in the street by a man.
www.google.co.uk
think this is acceptable PVA?
Woman beheaded after being warned to wear the burqa
Three young women have been killed – one beheaded – in Indian-controlled Kashmir, days after posters appeared in the state ordering Muslim women to wear burqas.www.google.co.uk
Yes it's perfectly acceptable, you got me.
Of course it's not ffs.
Nothing I've said suggests it is acceptable or that I think it's acceptable.
You think antisemitism is deplorable yet think Islamophobia is freedom of speech or some shit.
How fucking difficult is it for you to say Islamophobia is bad?
Can you bring yourself to say it?
What are you talking about? Several people have said that Johnson's comments were appalling.
Still can't bring yourself to say Islamophobia is bad can you.
'own it'.
Grendel
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Ive had enough - all my children are female. In your sad distorted male dominated world if I was a Muslim man and made them wear stupid ridiculous clothes from a mediaeval world and forced them To say they liked it even if there was a way of banning it you’d say no make them wear it
If I was a white next door neighbour who saw them crying every day as they went to school you’d say from your white ivory tower I’m islamaphobic
On ignore - gave you a chance you bigoted moronic fuckwit but that’s it