fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
Embarrassing
Sorry said to wind some up on hereGovernment doesn't have an overdraft for fuck sake
Are you a millionaire?What they should do is if anybody has savings from hard work over the years, just take it all and give it to others who don't and have never worked hard.
Are you a millionaire?
That’s what they already do, isn’t it? And if you have anything left, you pay for your own social care including subsidising the care of the feckless who get it free.What they should do is if anybody has savings from hard work over the years, just take it all and give it to others who don't and have never worked hard.
What do you think will change for you then if you don't mind me asking?Wish I was, I'm not a train driver.
Let's face it, a lot of the policies seem to be about spite rather than encouraging people to better themselves.
I'm sure some hotels need to be paid for.
What do you think will change for you then if you don't mind me asking?
Aren’t there some spare barges about?Wish I was, I'm not a train driver.
Let's face it, a lot of the policies seem to be about spite rather than encouraging people to better themselves.
I'm sure some hotels need to be paid for.
Yeah going forward!What now or going forward?
They’ve just scrapped the WFA because it costs too much money…
Next day:
These muppets need to have a think about how that looks to the general public.
How much is the foreign aid budget these days?Course all the money needs to go to other countries
Probably work until I'm about 85 as I'm not able to put as much as I'd like into a pension.Yeah going forward!
Road's at cost per mile to replace road tax on certain rds meaning all road's looking ahead which was coming anyway from industry bodies, hopefully a few bikes as well,there will be those people that receive grants to get started admittedly but also the one's that seem to have fund's behind them when they arrive competing for property, second hand car's dealer's and big SUVs Will soar,the list goes on!Probably work until I'm about 85 as I'm not able to put as much as I'd like into a pension.
Its affected me sort of already as college plans for my daughter have had to change.
By that point there will be others coming into the country and living in a nicer pad than me and being entitled to more than me without working a day in their life.
I can't see any change they have mentioned that is going to positively benefit me.
Last figure I seen was £7.2billionHow much is the foreign aid budget these days?
We already pay taxes according to miles driven, unless you have an electric car.Road's at cost per mile to replace road tax on certain rds meaning all road's looking ahead which was coming anyway from industry bodies, hopefully a few bikes as well,there will be those people that receive grants to get started admittedly but also the one's that seem to have fund's behind them when they arrive competing for property, second hand car's dealer's and big SUVs Will soar,the list goes on!
What has been the impact of your daughter's plan's re college if you don't mind me asking?
Because working hard is the only reason people get money of course, and not working hard is why people don’t have enough.What they should do is if anybody has savings from hard work over the years, just take it all and give it to others who don't and have never worked hard.
Road's at cost per mile to replace road tax on certain rds meaning all road's looking ahead which was coming anyway from industry bodies, hopefully a few bikes as well,there will be those people that receive grants to get started admittedly but also the one's that seem to have fund's behind them when they arrive competing for property, second hand car's dealer's and big SUVs Will soar,the list goes on!
What has been the impact of your daughter's plan's re college if you don't mind me asking?
Working hard is probably the reason why most people have built up savings but not everyone who has worked hard will have savings.Because working hard is the only reason people get money of course, and not working hard is why people don’t have enough.
Don't we already pay per a mile with the fuel duty and tax? More you drive the more you pay.
This is an age where people are handsomely rewarded for recording themselves making disgusting eating noises on the internet.Working hard is probably the reason why most people have built up savings but not everyone who has worked hard will have savings.
People who have not worked hard probably won’t have savings, the vast majority of people who haven’t worked at all won’t have savings either.
So charge the EVs then (no pun intended).There’s a big hole forecast as more people move to EVs though. Fuel plus road tax is just a money spinner for governments and they can’t lose that !
Probably work until I'm about 85 as I'm not able to put as much as I'd like into a pension.
Its affected me sort of already as college plans for my daughter have had to change.
By that point there will be others coming into the country and living in a nicer pad than me and being entitled to more than me without working a day in their life.
I can't see any change they have mentioned that is going to positively benefit me.
Presumably at some point you will reap the benefit of your choice to undertake post graduate study. You are clearly not bone idle, it’s the fuckers that are that are making me increasingly angry. Alongside those elements of society who support the internet geniuses you mention.This is an age where people are handsomely rewarded for recording themselves making disgusting eating noises on the internet.
In my own case, as a postgraduate student and my wife working full time we are eligible for £0 in support for childcare costs. So I suppose come not too long we’ll burn through our savings courtesy of that and a £300 monthly mortgage increase.
It’s OK, we’ll just be in the ‘bone idle’ category.
No argument herePresumably at some point you will reap the benefit of your choice to undertake post graduate study. You are clearly not bone idle, it’s the fuckers that are that are making me increasingly angry. Alongside those elements of society who support the internet geniuses you mention.
The top 10% of earners already pay over 60% of income tax. The problem is that the small proportion of rich people you refer to is very small and stripping them of their wealth wouldn’t touch the sides. I guess that depends on your definition of rich / wealthy.I'm sorry mate, but some of this simply isn't true.
People who don't have the right to reside here, illegal immigrants if you will, don't get benefits. That's a myth, spread by wankers like Tommy Robinson, to shit stir; let's not repeat it here, eh.
They get, at the most, £47 a week, to include food, toiletries, clothing, everything else. £9.58 a week if they live in accommodation where food is provided.
They obviously won't live in a nicer place than you, unless you're living in some shithole hotel.
Surprisingly enough, legal immigrants, with the right to reside, also don't tend to come here to live on benefits. Some can claim benefits, some cannot, but the basic truth here is that white UK men are more likely to claim unemployment benefit than immigrants.
This makes sense if you think it through, because most people aren't going to uproot themselves from their homes and families, just to come and sit on their arses in some cold, wet, shithole town for £400 a month (universal credit). They want to work, which is why they take the crap jobs that no one else wants.
I get that you've worked hard and don't have much to show for it. I know the feeling, a lot of us here probably do.
Where we differ, is I don't blame that problem on the people with even less than me. I look at how uneven the wealth distribution is in this country, and wonder if the small proportion of people, many of whom genuinely haven't worked a day in their lives, and are definitely living in nicer pads than you and I, might want to share a bit more. See also vast, tax-dodging, multinationals with billionaire owners etc..
It's that which informs my politics mate, which are some way apart from this iteration of the Labour party, but light-years away from any version of the Tories!
Frankly, if you're unhappy, you're punching in the wrong direction, imho.
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Migrants in the UK Labour Market: An Overview - Migration Observatory
This briefing looks at the jobs migrant workers do, their role in the UK labour market and their labour market integration.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk
The Scale of Economic Inequality in the UK - Equality Trust
The UK has very high inequality of income compared to other developed countries. The UK's wealth inequality is much more severe than income inequality.equalitytrust.org.uk
The top 10% of earners already pay over 60% of income tax. The problem is that the small proportion of rich people you refer to is very small and stripping them of their wealth wouldn’t touch the sides. I guess that depends on your definition of rich / wealthy.
You are spot on about the tax dodging multinationals. I would include the various denomination churches, especially the RC, which seem to have huge wealth, property and land.
Despite people claiming it’s meaningless, corporation tax especially on certain utilities companies could be higher also.The proportion might be small, but the wealth they hold is vast, and that inequality is growing. That's the whole point.
No one is talking about stripping them of all of it, but before I started complaining about the bone idle poor, I might think about reducing inequality by looking at the bone idle rich, and the vast unearned income that's finding its way to them in increasingly large amounts.
The top 10% of earners already pay over 60% of income tax. The problem is that the small proportion of rich people you refer to is very small and stripping them of their wealth wouldn’t touch the sides. I guess that depends on your definition of rich / wealthy.
You are spot on about the tax dodging multinationals. I would include the various denomination churches, especially the RC, which seem to have huge wealth, property and land.
Where was it in the Tory manifesto? Oh no, it says exactly the opposite.
"We will maintain all current pensioner benefits, including free bus passes, Winter Fuel Payments, free prescriptions and TV licences."
Where was it in Labour's manifesto? It isn't.
TBH, if this is the hill you are willing to die on, you're screwed.
To be in the top 10% of earners it says you need to earn £66k per year. This is roughly double the median salary (and well above the minimum wage). 60% isn't a high number in that context and arguably on the low side.
Despite people claiming it’s meaningless, corporation tax especially on certain utilities companies could be higher also.
Corporation tax is already going up to 25%. Irelands is 15% I think. I’ve previously highlighted how much additional tax take Ireland generated when they reduced their CT to 12.5%, not even mentioning all of the addition jobs etc brought to the country generating personal tax revenues etc. This was done by attracting businesses to set up there
Energy production companies already pay an additional levy and banks pay an additional surcharge (there’s talk of this being increased again).
I’m not saying we cut rate to Ireland’s but it’s a fine balance between maximising tax takes and becoming uncompetitive, especially in a ‘globalised’ world. The bigger issue is ensuring multi nationals pay a larger/fairer share of their profits in the country it’s generated but that requires international co-operation, which we ain’t getting from the US whoever wins over there
What is the point of having a career?To be in the top 10% of earners it says you need to earn £66k per year. This is roughly double the median salary (and well above the minimum wage). 60% isn't a high number in that context and arguably on the low side.
Ireland are in the EU though and there can only be one tax haven. There’s little actual job contribution in Ireland from companies headquartering there really. Their GDP per head is huge but their median salary is identical to ours with a much higher cost of living. I’m not sure their model is one we could or should follow.
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