shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Genuine question: is this the first election you’ve voted in?
I've signed it!
It's pointless like you say but its a good alternative to voicing opinion in a singular non combative way. It might only be the beginning of Labour's term but working in a small private company I'm feeling well and truely shafted at the moment. Honestly we're being treated as idiots, did they really we're that stupid to think a penny off a pint would appease us, not getting the fact that min wage, NI and rising energy costs would have us paying more for everything whilst paying more for shoddy public services.
The next step will be petition to the king which may make Starmer take a look at how he's doing things.
No ! Actually I'm 64 years of age, worked 41 years without one day off, now I'm struggling with cancer short term life prognosis and can't get 1 penny of my contributions in NI over that time other that stat. sick pay.The small amount of private pension they will tax a way more than the rebate I've received. I've seen a lot in my time, voted for all party's at different elections. I was involved in the anti apartheid movement in the 80's and welcomed immigration back then.Genuine question: is this the first election you’ve voted in?
Sorry to hear of your condition mate, thoughts are with you, and I wish you the best of British.No ! Actually I'm 64 years of age, worked 41 years without one day off, now I'm struggling with cancer short term life prognosis and can't get 1 penny of my contributions in NI over that time other that stat. sick pay.The small amount of private pension they will tax a way more than the rebate I've received. I've seen a lot in my time, voted for all party's at different elections. I was involved in the anti apartheid movement in the 80's and welcomed immigration back then.
I was optimistic at the change, not expecting to much to quick but.....
Free speech is on the way out
Immigration out of control
Failing public services rewarded with pay awards and increased costs
I could go on and on......
Opps a bit more than you asked for
Genuine question: is this the first election you’ve voted in?
I don't like this Labour government so far as much as the next man, but I know you like statistics about the popular mandate.Up to 875,000 signatories now, over 100,000 in the last hour.
over 1.5 million now without a single mention on BBC news yet. Up to 200k for Palestine, Tommy Robinson and LGBT+ etc demo's(for fairness and reference)= Headline newsI don't like this Labour government so far as much as the next man, but I know you like statistics about the popular mandate.
The petition has been signed by 1.66% of voters, it's an irrelevance
Really sorry about your health problems.No ! Actually I'm 64 years of age, worked 41 years without one day off, now I'm struggling with cancer short term life prognosis and can't get 1 penny of my contributions in NI over that time other that stat. sick pay.The small amount of private pension they will tax a way more than the rebate I've received. I've seen a lot in my time, voted for all party's at different elections. I was involved in the anti apartheid movement in the 80's and welcomed immigration back then.
I was optimistic at the change, not expecting to much to quick but.....
Free speech is on the way out
Immigration out of control
Failing public services rewarded with pay awards and increased costs
I could go on and on......
Opps a bit more than you asked for
That’s a really condescending and patronising post,Genuine question: is this the first election you’ve voted in?
To be fair somebody spending 30 seconds pressing a few buttons online is much less of a protest than travelling to somewhere to take part in a demoover 1.5 million now without a single mention on BBC news yet. Up to 200k for Palestine, Tommy Robinson and LGBT+ etc demo's(for fairness and reference)= Headline news
Starmer wrote: “In the coming months, Mail on Sunday readers will see even more sweeping changes. Because make no mistake, we will get to grips with the bulging benefits bill blighting our society.
“Don’t get me wrong – we will crack down hard on anyone who tries to game the system, to tackle fraud so we can take cash straight from the banks of fraudsters.
“There will be a zero-tolerance approach to these criminals. My pledge to Mail on Sunday readers is this: I will grip this problem once and for all.”
Believe it to be gripped when I see it. Won’t be holding my breath.It is quite hilarious mind that all the types of people this hapless berk and his band of idiots try to appease with this sort of distraction rubbish are no doubt signing and sharing that petition
But more climate friendly.To be fair somebody spending 30 seconds pressing a few buttons online is much less of a protest than travelling to somewhere to take part in a demo
Thanks,Really sorry about your health problems.
Totally agree with the three government issues you have identified.
No ! Actually I'm 64 years of age, worked 41 years without one day off, now I'm struggling with cancer short term life prognosis and can't get 1 penny of my contributions in NI over that time other that stat. sick pay.The small amount of private pension they will tax a way more than the rebate I've received. I've seen a lot in my time, voted for all party's at different elections. I was involved in the anti apartheid movement in the 80's and welcomed immigration back then.
I was optimistic at the change, not expecting to much to quick but.....
Free speech is on the way out
Immigration out of control
Failing public services rewarded with pay awards and increased costs
I could go on and on......
Opps a bit more than you asked for
1,917,000 signatories and still nof mentioned on the BBC website, otherwise known as the Labour Party Press Office.Another SDS sufferer, half this stuff isn’t even real. Was this how Remainers looked because seriously I get it now. If we had Remoaners, may I propose Tearies?
Which half do you consider not to be real?Another SDS sufferer, half this stuff isn’t even real. Was this how Remainers looked because seriously I get it now. If we had Remoaners, may I propose Tearies?
Labour doesn’t have a popular mandate for anything in reality.
1,917,000 signatories and still nof mentioned on the BBC website, otherwise known as the Labour Party Press Office.
1984 is one of my favourite books. I don't mind LotR either.View attachment 39753
Reading ‘Lord Of The Rings’ And ‘1984’ Could Lead To Right-Wing Extremism, Gov’t Report Warns
A British Government's counter-terrorism Prevent program report apparently stated authors like George Orwell, J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis can radicalize.dailycaller.com
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Reading ‘Lord Of The Rings’ And ‘1984’ Could Lead To Right-Wing Extremism, Gov’t Report Warns
A British Government's counter-terrorism Prevent program report apparently stated authors like George Orwell, J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis can radicalize.dailycaller.com
Would be very funny if EU countries crack down on immigration and Brexit Britain doesn’t.
Not really though as it’s likely to mean Reforms vote increasing. People’s genuine concerns about uncontrolled immigration have been ignored for years (looking at various governments actions, not words). Countries across Europe have shifted to the right because of it. If Labour aren’t seen to get a grip of it, I’d unfortunately expect similar to happen here.
1,917,000 signatories and still nof mentioned on the BBC website, otherwise known as the Labour Party Press Office.
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More funny in that we bomb our economy with the justification that’s it’s the only way to reduce immigration, not only does immigration then increase but EU countries drive it below zero without leaving.
I think everyone has shifted right on this TBH (not going to get into how open borders are a liberal not socialist position again). Starmer seems to be actually taking it seriously whereas Sunak focused on the boats but maybe was a little naive to think that letting in thousands of non white legal immigrants at the same time wouldn’t impact feelings on that. Illegal immigrants are bad in theory but I suspect what most anti immigration people want is to deal with fewer people with starkly different cultures or poor English in their day to day lives. On that metric Brexit has been a disaster.
I agree. There was no point in Brexit unless you then control immigration and tailor net migration to the country’s needs and capacity. For whatever reason this hasn’t been done.
Having said that maybe if the EU had heeded the warning of Brexit various member countries wouldn’t have needed to have gone further right. FOM and Schengen (as was), are under threat. There finally appears to be a dawning realisation that every country should be able to control its own borders/migration policy
Sure it wasn't long ago that Sweden was being presented on this thread as a country about to implode as the result of out of control immigrationWould be very funny if EU countries crack down on immigration and Brexit Britain doesn’t.
I said they don't have a popular mandate - only 20% of the electorate voted for them.I know you like using this line, but they quite literally do have a mandate. A big one at that.
Mandate
noun
the authority to carry out a policy, regarded as given by the electorate to a party or candidate that wins an election.
I said they don't have a popular mandate - only 20% of the electorate voted for them.
They do have a disproportionate majority in the House of Commons which means they can do pretty much what they want to. It sounds as if they are even pissing off some of the minority of the electorate that voted for them.
I agree with her there’s something not good about denigrating our democratic processWhen Edwina Currie is your voice of reason…
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