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shmmeee

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Has it? Sure I read the other day that WhatsApp/Facebook are still arguing with the Government about it.

Oh really? Then in that case it’s probably still safe. Well as safe as any Zukerberg company is with your data.
 

PVA

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He needs people like Hancock around him. It’s his best hope for looking like he’s got any competence himself.

Yep plus someone to act as fall guy.

Sack Hancock and say 'it was all his fault, everything else we did was brilliant, we've sacked him now so we've dealt with it. No more questions about our pandemic response'.
 

skybluetony176

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Yep plus someone to act as fall guy.

Sack Hancock and say 'it was all his fault, everything else we did was brilliant, we've sacked him now so we've dealt with it. No more questions about our pandemic response'.
Not that many years ago you’d ask who the biggest idiot is. The idiot or the idiot that surrounds himself with idiots. I’m struggling to think of a minister in my lifetime who’s worse than anyone of the current cabinet. John Redwood maybe, David Mellor? Other than them 2 I’m struggling. It’s not just the incompetence it’s the lack of any integrity.
 

SBAndy

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Gavin Williamson is easily most incompetent of those holding dept briefs.

What rattles me most about GW is that he talks like he’s been trained in toff, but occasionally the mask slips and he sounds like he’s from deepest darkest Dudley.
 

shmmeee

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Gavin Williamson is easily most incompetent of those holding dept briefs.

You assume the Tories want to improve state education. Why would they do something that reduces the value of their investments in private?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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The DUP is in chaos. I think it’s dawning on them the magnitude of what backing Brexit and then putting their faith in Boris has done. The end is nigh for Northern Ireland and they did more to deliver it than the Republicans could ever have personally dreamed of achieving.
Yep truly unbelievable
 

Ian1779

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Overturning a 16K Tory majority and getting an 8K one of your own is quite the result. Even more so in a by-election.

 

clint van damme

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Overturning a 16K Tory majority and getting an 8K one of your own is quite the result. Even more so in a by-election.



Not a great result for Labour either. If the Libs can give the government a bloody nose why can't they?

A bad result in Bately and Starmer must be under severe pressure surely?
 

Ian1779

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Not a great result for Labour either. If the Libs can give the government a bloody nose why can't they?

A bad result in Bately and Starmer must be under severe pressure surely?
I think here in this particular constituency, there has been some heavy tactical voting that has suppressed the Labour vote, as well as there being some big local issues in play here (HS2) but it’s still a hell of a result.
If Labour had any sense they’d have struck a deal with this seat and Batley and Spen to divert support accordingly to beat the Tories.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Lib Dem hippie yoga master leader says it ‘sends a shockwave’. Not really, seems pretty clear that there is a political realignment in progress where the Tories are happy to drop leafy suburbs
 

Grendel

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Not a great result for Labour either. If the Libs can give the government a bloody nose why can't they?

A bad result in Bately and Starmer must be under severe pressure surely?

Labour had 622 votes
 

Grendel

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I think here in this particular constituency, there has been some heavy tactical voting that has suppressed the Labour vote, as well as there being some big local issues in play here (HS2) but it’s still a hell of a result.
If Labour had any sense they’d have struck a deal with this seat and Batley and Spen to divert support accordingly to beat the Tories.

Labour were the second highest party in 2017 with 11,000 votes. The minute they try and manipulate results is the day they totally disappear as a political party
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Labour were the second highest party in 2017 with 11,000 votes. The minute they try and manipulate results is the day they totally disappear as a political party

And to think some people say there is still a path back to a Labour government
 

shmmeee

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Not a great result for Labour either. If the Libs can give the government a bloody nose why can't they?

A bad result in Bately and Starmer must be under severe pressure surely?

You need to take a step back. What’s happening is a demographic realignment and bugger all to do with any of the leaders.

If Labour want to survive it, they need to become either anti woke or much more pro business and NIMBY.

I suspect we’ll end up with the national socialism (in name only) of the Tories and the international neoliberalism of the Lib Dem’s while the Greens and Labour fight it out for the 20% student vote.

Personally I don’t think the Tories have either the wit nor the capacity to hold onto the left wing economic vote. Ultimately they are donor driven not member driven and their new voters like all voters will demand their material needs are met and they’ll have to pick between the voters and the donors. Johnson is a very special Tory and he hasn’t the energy to last like Blair or Thatcher did. What comes next on all sides will be very interesting.
 

Grendel

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You mean like the Tories did with BXP/UKIP?

Not really as those parties are gone. The Lib Dem’s will hang around for ever
 

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