Nick
Administrator
I'm laughing because you're a massive hypocrite. Basically.
Why not just use the NHS? Obviously think your kid's better than others who have to.
It is perfectly fine to go private if somebody else is paying for it
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I'm laughing because you're a massive hypocrite. Basically.
Why not just use the NHS? Obviously think your kid's better than others who have to.
It is perfectly fine to go private if somebody else is paying for it
I mean obviously - what do you think I am, some kind of cuck?I assume everybody on here will be voting for andrew tates BRUV party
Ffs
Nick
Administrator
I assume everybody on here will be voting for andrew tates BRUV party
Ffs
Sounds gay, like baby oiled up blokes gay.
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
Blair’s GP contract has proved to be a bit of a disaster.
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
The nhs commissions all sorts of organisations to provide healthcare. Some are NHS Trusts, some are private providers. The latter represent additional capacity that can be purchased in a “spot market” basis. They get paid the NHS tariff. In reality it is still NHS care.I'm laughing because you're a massive hypocrite. Basically.
Why not just use the NHS? Obviously think your kid's better than others who have to.
It is perfectly fine to go private if somebody else is paying for it
what annoys me is when people end up having to pay themselves because of a lack of capacity. The NHS should have to part pay to the tune if the NHS tariff, dentistry is a classic example currently.
Having worked in the NHS for a very long time before retirement, and paid hundreds of thousands in taxes over the years it is galling that I have had to go private twice to get sorted. Not my current predicament though.
Fortunately.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
I'm laughing because you're a massive hypocrite. Basically.
Why not just use the NHS? Obviously think your kid's better than others who have to.
It is perfectly fine to go private if somebody else is paying for it
Because the NHS doesn’t offer to pay for flights home if my kids are abroad or hotels for me if she’s in long term again as I said. My youngest is under the care of neurology at BCH and I don’t want her stranded abroad if she requires emergency brain surgery again. I want her in the NHS!
I haven’t said you shouldn’t go private. I’ve said private schooling isn’t worth the money and you should pay tax on it just like I do on my medical insurance.
I’m not asking single mums to pay more tax so I can have money off like you. I can afford luxury goods.
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Nick
Administrator
Tell them to get on salary sacrifice....
By the way, school fees have always been taxed as benefit in kind too to employers. Had best get some vat on your private healthcare though.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Private healthcare pays IPT not VAT and it’s not reclaimable like VAT.
I’m not talking about your personal income tax.
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
Starmer faces backlash over ‘far-right bandwagon’ grooming gang remarks
Shadow Home Secretary criticises comments made by PM
www.standard.co.uk
Presumably it is as reasonable to say that those resisting are on a far left bandwagon?
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Starmer faces backlash over ‘far-right bandwagon’ grooming gang remarks
Shadow Home Secretary criticises comments made by PM
Presumably it is as reasonable to say that those resisting are on a far left bandwagon?
I assume you’re including the original reports author in this?
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
Anyone not supporting an inquiry.
I simply do not understand how anyone could think it not to be a good idea,
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
Can you explain what the inquiry is into? What outcome is being sought?
How many inquiries do you want?
I'm sure you took umbrage with some other inquiry the other day saying it was just a tool for to Labour to kick the can down the road!
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
As I understand it, to identify why the police didn’t take action earlier and hence bring the whole sorry saga to a close reducing the number of victims.
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
This is a retrospective inquiry, not a prospective one. No can kicking with this one. Labour had a very, very long time to think about what they might do if they won the election. They clearly couldn’t be arsed and decided to do things on the hoof. Schoolboy error I’m afraid. They should have been able to hit the ground running. They have managed half of that, they have hit the ground, Twats.
Hence my umbrage around inquiries, reviews and increasing Quangos.
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shmmeee
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Just a waste of time when we’ve had one and have recommendations to implement.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
But fifteen years of enquiries isn’t enough?
Sky Blue Pete
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I don’t consider myself far left but I’d much prefer the 109 recommendations being actions before looking again at past failingsStarmer faces backlash over ‘far-right bandwagon’ grooming gang remarks
Shadow Home Secretary criticises comments made by PM
Presumably it is as reasonable to say that those resisting are on a far left bandwagon?
It’s the classic simple answer and faux outrage that reform and musk and trump are guilty of time and time again
The tories are unconscionable with their approach having done fuck all from the report published in 2022
I know reform and x want to focus on the Pakistani Muslim aspect and it’s important this isn’t ignored but there’s so many other areas that are the same that I’m one for delivering on the 109 recommendations and then if necessary commissioning another report
It’s as if I’m guilty of raping and murdering myself
Cooper was raging in the house yesterday and I thought did bloody well
Starmer didn’t do so well but he’s not a natural communicator
Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
Boris thought the one they were doing was spaffing money up the wall
Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
Like any good far right play boom tactic and no I’m not saying malc or most people on x are far right and neither was starmer by the way
The classic tactic is to tell you who to blame and who to fear
Your life is shit because Muslims
Who can we blame keir starmer
that’s it
How are they affected ? They’re not.
It’s as if the Catholic and Church of England covers ups haven’t exists
It’s as if we haven’t known for years that’s kids in care end up without life prospects and end up in prison
not sure how the Pakistani Muslims are responsible for that but let’s take over the focus of everyone in the country to point the finger
I’d have more respect for Rupert Lowe and Lee Anderson if they started a security group to man the streets but you can rest assured they are as good at evidence gathering as they are at politics fuckin awful
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
Trouble is that there are those who suspect a cover up. It’s another one of those where it’s relatively easy to believe that ethnicity has played a role. I wonder how much longer before there is a charging decision in relation to the Manchester Airport incident. I’m sorry, but often when something walks like a duck and sounds like a duck - it is in fact a duck.
And of course he was always right
duffer
Well-Known Member
Spot on. If there's one thing that this Tory opposition can't lecture anybody about, it's failings in law and order.
They literally ran it into the ground, and did nothing at all, note, not a single thing, about the previous enquiry's findings.
This is straightforward dog whistle politics from a party who have lost their moral compass completely, and can't decide whether to join Farage or to fight him.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Trouble is that there are those who suspect a cover up. It’s another one of those where it’s relatively easy to believe that ethnicity has played a role. I wonder how much longer before there is a charging decision in relation to the Manchester Airport incident. I’m sorry, but often when something walks like a duck and sounds like a duck - it is in fact a duck.
And of course he was always right
This is just paranoid nonsense and not an excuse to drive government policy. There are people who think 5G causes Covid, we don’t need an inquiry into it. All this stuff was covered in the Jay Inquiry.
Sky Blue Pete
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I’m a sense he was if he knew they’d do fuck all about any of the findings it was an absolute waste of timeTrouble is that there are those who suspect a cover up. It’s another one of those where it’s relatively easy to believe that ethnicity has played a role. I wonder how much longer before there is a charging decision in relation to the Manchester Airport incident. I’m sorry, but often when something walks like a duck and sounds like a duck - it is in fact a duck.
And of course he was always right
I can’t believe the Muscovites and Faragites and lowlifes can’t follow through with their thought processes
I know people have been deported for sex crimes from the place I volunteer at but it’s only started recently another thing where it was just too difficult for the tories to do rather than talk of doing
So we deport all those committing crime back to where exactly? Most are British born but that’s ok we deport them and then we deport all their families how the fuck do we do that?
who will do that?
how much will it cost?
This government increased staff at the home office and were accused of being top heavy and misusing money. How else do you do it! Just go to Rochdale and ask for names and put people on coaches
It’s fuckin mad
I’m glad I’m not 20
Reform make sense and debate your ideas please cause at the moment it’s madness
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
Christian church cover ups have been appalling.
The grooming gangs were Muslims weren't they, so those poor girls lives were shit because of them.
I did get cross with a fellow patient who was exclaiming quite loudly that all the housing being built was for fucking immigrants. I don’t think he had realised that our care was being delivered by said immigrants who were probably invited to work at that hospital ( following an international recruitment programme).
Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
Not everything but enough to make a tangible difference
Rupert and Nigel think the police are going to be arrested and councillors and keir starmer they’re just crazy ill informed wankers
I need to lie down.
duffer
Well-Known Member
Trouble is that there are those who suspect a cover up. It’s another one of those where it’s relatively easy to believe that ethnicity has played a role. I wonder how much longer before there is a charging decision in relation to the Manchester Airport incident. I’m sorry, but often when something walks like a duck and sounds like a duck - it is in fact a duck.
And of course he was always right
Oh my Lord, Manchester again.
They've been charged. This claim of two-tier policing is utter bollocks, give it a rest mate...
Sky Blue Pete
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Pretty sure most of them had shit lives before but of course the perpetrators are mostly to blame
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
Thanks Duffer, I hadnt seen that. Will try to keep an eye or ear out for the trial, hopefully it will be hard to miss. Just can’t rely on the BBC these days to report anything not aligned with their agenda. As your second link says, most if this stuff has disappeared from the media, for some obscure reason.Oh my Lord, Manchester again.
They've been charged. This claim of two-tier policing is utter bollocks, give it a rest mate...
It wasnt necessarily two tier policing - they had done their jobs, completed the investigation n submitted the case to the CPS who seem to have sat on their hands - for FIVE months. Ffs
Stark contrast to the number of rioters tried and imprisoned.
Not two tier policing, more like two tier justice ( using the word loosely).
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MalcSB
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There are shit lives, and there are even shitter lives. I can only imagine that living a shit life and being groomed, sex trafficked and raped moves someone from the former to the latter.
Personally I'd rather not have our political parties running extra-judicial vigilante groups, but each to their own
We've been over this ad nauseam
The rioters posed an immediate and widespread security risk that needed to be contained. The Manchester Airport guys didn't. They were policed accordingly.