Do you want to discuss boring politics? (18 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

I don’t know how so many of you keep up to speed on all this stuff.

I also don’t know why the government don’t just respond to critics by ostentatiously pointing at this bill. Or are they just masochists?

They have. Repeatedly. Your media sources just choose not to report it.

 

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[shmmeee]

People Malc trusts on the issue of violence against women and girls: sex offender Donald Trump, groomer and trafficker Andrew Tate, misogynist Nigel Farage.

People Malc doesn’t trust: Two women who have dedicated their lives to protecting girls from violence.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I don’t know how so many of you keep up to speed on all this stuff.

I also don’t know why the government don’t just respond to critics by ostentatiously pointing at this bill. Or are they just masochists?

I agree
Other than winter fuel and inheritance on property which have been handled badly and are probably bad bills they’ve a lot to be talking about

I fear it won’t matter as unless migration can be brought under control reform will sweep all before them

 

[MalcSB]

What an unexpected coincidence that an article from January 2020 describes a contagious virus from Wuhan. Hope it doesn’t turn into anything big!

Where did you find this article Malc?

BBC. Im not on even mediocre form at the moment, Sorry, will delete post.

 

[MalcSB]

People Malc trusts on the issue of violence against women and girls: sex offender Donald Trump, groomer and trafficker Andrew Tate, misogynist Nigel Farage.

People Malc doesn’t trust: Two women who have dedicated their lives to protecting girls from violence.

Harsh. I don’t actually trust anyone.

 

[shmmeee]

Harsh

It’s how im feeling mate. Like a few in this thread I imagine I know and have worked with abused kids and seeing them used as a political football and people who have dedicated their lives to protecting them slandered while we listen to actual groomers instead it boils my blood.

 

[MalcSB]

What are you doing as you’re so quick to slag off people who have dedicated their life to this cause?

Pathetic. Using abused kids to score political points. I think you lot have lost your humanity tbqh.

Also harsh.

 

[MalcSB]

It’s how im feeling mate. Like a few in this thread I imagine I know and have worked with abused kids and seeing them used as a political football and people who have dedicated their lives to protecting them slandered while we listen to actual groomers instead it boils my blood.

I have managed services involved in child protection and safeguarding. I don’t see this as a political football, unfortunately politicians have a nasty habit of doing so, causing collateral damage to good people who have tried to do their best and then don’t like it when the focus is turned back on the politicians.

For avoidance of doubt, that’s politicians of all persuasions,

 

[MalcSB]

What are you doing as you’re so quick to slag off people who have dedicated their life to this cause?

Pathetic. Using abused kids to score political points. I think you lot have lost your humanity tbqh.

Tbh, with many of the opinions you have expressed, I have often wondered whether you have any humanity.

Other than to a very narrow range of people.

 

[shmmeee]

I have managed services involved in child protection and safeguarding. I don’t see this as a political football, unfortunately politicians have a nasty habit of doing so, causing collateral damage to good people who have tried to do their best and then don’t like it when the focus is turned back on the politicians.

For avoidance of doubt, that’s politicians of all persuasions,

Like Starmer you mean?



Put your political gripes aside for one second and life in reality.

 

[shmmeee]

Top class comparing not giving millionaires free cash to protecting vulnerable kids though. The hits just keep coming.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I have managed services involved in child protection and safeguarding. I don’t see this as a political football, unfortunately politicians have a nasty habit of doing so, causing collateral damage to good people who have tried to do their best and then don’t like it when the focus is turned back on the politicians.

For avoidance of doubt, that’s politicians of all persuasions,

There’s some wonderful ones too

 

[Grendel]

I do find Starmer suddenly praising Jess Phillips somewhat ironic

 

[MalcSB]

I do find Starmer suddenly praising Jess Phillips somewhat ironic

Any port in a storm,

 

[fernandopartridge]

Tories attempting to block this bill:

Children’s Bill to keep children safe from exploitation

Major reforms to protect thousands of vulnerable children hidden from sight will take another crucial step forward today.

www.gov.uk

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Tories attempting to block this bill:

Children’s Bill to keep children safe from exploitation

Major reforms to protect thousands of vulnerable children hidden from sight will take another crucial step forward today.

www.gov.uk

Yep by linking an investigation into its support
Starmer will get all the blame when it’s a classic filibuster

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Tories attempting to block this bill:

Children’s Bill to keep children safe from exploitation

Major reforms to protect thousands of vulnerable children hidden from sight will take another crucial step forward today.

www.gov.uk

All 33 children included in the report were missing school and had run away from home

 

[shmmeee]

Yep by linking an investigation into its support
Starmer will get all the blame when it’s a classic filibuster

How can they stop it?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

How can they stop it?

On their own they can’t but they want enough labour mps to vote for the inquiry

 

[shmmeee]

On their own they can’t but they want enough labour mps to vote for the inquiry

Im sure they do. Sucks for them they’re in opposition.

 

[MalcSB]

Im sure they do. Sucks for them they’re in opposition.

Deservedly so in reality.

 

[MalcSB]

Top class comparing not giving millionaires free cash to protecting vulnerable kids though. The hits just keep coming.

Not all older people are millionaires. You just like lumping everyone together from the vulnerable aged to Elton John. His hits don’t seem to keep coming anymore though.
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When all us old gits have no assets, we won’t be able to fund our social care. That will put some pressure on local authority budgets.
You like Hanlons Razor. I like the law of unintended consequences.

 

[SIR ERNIE]

Also this is very very funny. He’s such a sad and desperate man.

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He’s not sad and desperate.

Sad and desperate is a grown man spending every waking hour of every day from dawn until the early hours, huddled over a keyboard trying very hard to sound clever for likes on a football forum.

 

[shmmeee]

He’s not sad and desperate.

Sad and desperate is a grown man spending every waking hour of every day from dawn until the early hours, huddled over a keyboard trying very hard to sound clever for likes on a football forum.

I love how even when you insult me you have to admit I sound clever.

 

[MalcSB]

I love how even when you insult me you have to admit I sound clever.

He said you were trying very hard to sound clever, not that you actually sound clever.

 

[MalcSB]

What an unexpected coincidence that an article from January 2020 describes a contagious virus from Wuhan. Hope it doesn’t turn into anything big!

Where did you find this article Malc?

Full disclosure. I found a reference in the Mail. These days, whenever that happens, I try to triangulate by checking sources which might be less objectionable to the majority on this forum. That article popped up on the BBC. I simoly didn’t take enough care when reading it to spot the date.

Mea Culpa

 

[MalcSB]

They have. Repeatedly. Your media sources just choose not to report it.

I am trying to broaden my media sources. Perhaps not terribly successfully but with luck I will get there in the end.

All of a sudden there does seem to be more coverage of the bill.

 

[shmmeee]

He said you were trying very hard to sound clever, not that you actually sound clever.

But he’d only think I’m trying to sound clever (I’m not if anything the opposite) if he thought my posts seemed like they were clever, otherwise why mention it. It’s a dead giveaway.

 

[shmmeee]

This is sick BTW. This girl is a grooming gang survivor. Andrew Tate is threatening to sue her because she said that he was a Muslim grooming gang member criticising Muslim grooming gangs.



These people just keep telling on themselves.

 

[MalcSB]

But he’d only think I’m trying to sound clever (I’m not if anything the opposite) if he thought my posts seemed like they were clever, otherwise why mention it. It’s a dead giveaway.

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I think you are probably quite clever. But a dogmatist.

 

[shmmeee]

I think you are probably quite clever. But a dogmatist.

I just play one on the internet tbh.

 

[MalcSB]

This is sick BTW. This girl is a grooming gang survivor. Andrew Tate is threatening to sue her because she said that he was a Muslim grooming gang member criticising Muslim grooming gangs.



These people just keep telling on themselves.

She admits those claims were false. Are libel laws and Sanctions limited In their application to only certain sectors of society? If so, why? Not very egalitarian.

 

[fernandopartridge]

She admits those claims were false. Are libel laws and Sanctions limited In their application to only certain sectors of society? If so, why? Not very egalitarian.

Tate is a misogynist opportunist c**t

 

[shmmeee]

I am trying to broaden my media sources. Perhaps not terribly successfully but with luck I will get there in the end.

All of a sudden there does seem to be more coverage of the bill.

Jess Phillips saying nothing is off the table and of the survivors want another inquiry that’s what they’ll get but she wants to get on with action btw.

 

[MalcSB]

This is sick BTW. This girl is a grooming gang survivor. Andrew Tate is threatening to sue her because she said that he was a Muslim grooming gang member criticising Muslim grooming gangs.



These people just keep telling on themselves.

I’m assuming your use of sick is in the sense a boomer would understand.

Not that it is really, really good.