Amazing that Nick has more sympathy for those poor unfortunate parents who now have to pay VAT on school fees than on parents who can barely afford to feed their kids
What would you do if your son was at home, crying all alone on the bedroom floor 'cos he's hungry, and the only way to feed him is to, sleep with a man for a little bit of moneyMaybe it's just me that if my finances meant I struggled to feed my daughter I'd be doing everything possible within my power to sort it rather than whinging about somebody else not doing it for me.
I guess the question would become how do you operate a system based on need, is the cost and hassle of doing that the reason a 'feed every kid' system is in place.Giving all kids whether they need it or not, a substandard breakfast, not so good
That's no excuse to be livin' all crazyWhat would you do if your son was at home, crying all alone on the bedroom floor 'cos he's hungry, and the only way to feed him is to, sleep with a man for a little bit of money
wtf are overnight oats anyway. is it an influencers word for porridge?Overnight oats are delicious tbf.
wtf are overnight oats anyway. is it an influencers word for porridge?
Amazing that Nick has more sympathy for those poor unfortunate parents who now have to pay VAT on school fees than on parents who can barely afford to feed their kids
re-evaluate their choices surely?
What would you do if your son was at home, crying all alone on the bedroom floor 'cos he's hungry, and the only way to feed him is to, sleep with a man for a little bit of money
But his daddy's gone - somewhere smoking rock now, in and out of lockdown, I ain't got a job nowIn that case the child should I hope be removed from a clearly unfit parent
Not for those already having breakfast at home. Posters bemoaning kids buying energy drinks and crisps on the way to school. Is a cold dry bagel THAT much better? Maybe parents could contribute the cost of said junk food toward the provision of a decent school breakfast? They would be no more out of pocket (the wallets of the working man protected without picking the pockets of pensioners) and they would have the warm glow of fulfilling their parental responsibilitiesI don't think anyone's arguing it's a core responsibility, it's just a good investment.
should is possibly the crapiest word in the English language. Must is far preferable. I think I used could, a policy would be far more tightly written than a suggestion by a political minority member of a football forum.OK and when they don’t?
“should” is a pretty useless word in policy making. You have to deal with reality. And most people can’t afford a childminder five mornings a week.
Not for those already having breakfast at home. Posters bemoaning kids buying energy drinks and crisps on the way to school. Is a cold dry bagel THAT much better? Maybe parents could contribute the cost of said junk food toward the provision of a decent school breakfast? They would be no more out of pocket (the wallets of the working man protected without picking the pockets of pensioners) and they would have the warm glow of fulfilling their parental responsibilities.
should is possibly the crapiest word in the English language. Must is far preferable. I think I used could, a policy would be far more tightly written than a suggestion by a political minority member of a football forum.
When they don’t, fine them, in the same way they can be fined for taking their kids out of school to go on a holiday.
I thought free childcare was available these days.Not for those already having breakfast at home. Posters bemoaning kids buying energy drinks and crisps on the way to school. Is a cold dry bagel THAT much better? Maybe parents could contribute the cost of said junk food toward the provision of a decent school breakfast? They would be no more out of pocket (the wallets of the working man protected without picking the pockets of pensioners) and they would have the warm glow of fulfilling their parental responsibilities.
should is possibly the crapiest word in the English language. Must is far preferable. I think I used could, a policy would be far more tightly written than a suggestion by a political minority member of a football forum.
When they don’t, fine them, in the same way they can be fined for taking their kids out of school to go on a holiday.
Only pre school ageI thought free childcare was available these days.
WTF has that got anything to do with it?Maybe we should fine people who fail to plan for their retirement too? After all they’ve had a lot longer to prepare than parents usually get
OK, I don’t have any of them.Only pre school age
WTF has that got anything to do with it?
Most people have planned for their retirement, only to have the goal posts moved by various governments.
They do and sometimes for the better. Working age people can occasionally even get work. Not easy to be a hod carrier at 68.Whereas working age benefits never change?
They do and sometimes for the better. Working age people can occasionally even get work. Not easy to be a hod carrier at 68.
Tax the top four clubs and Amazon more then.Not often recently and they also have housing costs generally that recently went up 50% in some cases.
Just give the kids a fucking sandwich. It’s £600m a year. Basically a top four clubs transfer kitty.
What happens if your child becomes morbidly obese after a full English at home followed by being force fed nutritionally dubious shit at school? Other than ozempic?I guess the question would become how do you operate a system based on need, is the cost and hassle of doing that the reason a 'feed every kid' system is in place.
Would it be down to the parents to decide, or the teachers, or the kids themselves? If its parents what happens if they don't apply but the kid is hungry? If its the teachers what happens if the parents object? If its the kids what happens if they won't ask because a stigma becomes attached to it?
Feeding every kid seems the simple solution. The question would be how much more it costs than feeding only those that need it and if there's even a practical solution that doesn't involve feeding every kid.
But as you say having seen what patients in hospital get, or kids paid for school lunches, not holding out huge hope for this but you've got to do something.
I guess there's a perceived underclass that come along in the morning hungry or thirsty,Milk used to do the trick for millions of kids, now it's more likely to be something harmful?Why is it tax payers responsibility to provide nutrition for children just because parents cannot be bothered
Unsweetened thought or they'll be subject to tax,we used to have a big pot on the go and sprinkled with salt, delicious!Overnight oats are delicious tbf.
Porridge with salt? Not tried it but sounds randomUnsweetened thought or they'll be subject to tax,we used to have a big pot on the go and sprinkled with salt, delicious!
Is it about a perceived underclass? Or a “nanny state knows best“ approach. Will be interesting when it all goes horribly wrong and some children have suffered harm how Starmer will wriggle and say that he won’t be lectured to by the likes of us.I guess there's a perceived underclass that come along in the morning hungry or thirsty,Milk used to do the trick for millions of kids, now it's more likely to be something harmful?
It's delicious tbf,gets round the proposed tax as well.Porridge with salt? Not tried it but sounds random
It’s Scottish. Not at all random.Porridge with salt? Not tried it but sounds random
Why would something provided free be subject to tax?Unsweetened thought or they'll be subject to tax,we used to have a big pot on the go and sprinkled with salt, delicious!
Kid Harmer other point is that Thatcher really took more away than just Milk which even I missed as I'm sure you would have, then we get sure start with the last lab govt and the Tories talking of doing similar at the end of termIs it about a perceived underclass? Or a “nanny state knows best“ approach. Will be interesting when it all goes horribly wrong and some children have suffered harm how Starmer will wriggle and say that he won’t be lectured to by the likes of us.
It has just occurred to me that, because he is such a poor speaker with no apparent warmth or emotional intelligence, I can’t even refer to him as Sir Keir Smarmer no matter how much I want to.
But his daddy's gone - somewhere smoking rock now, in and out of lockdown, I ain't got a job now
Not often recently and they also have housing costs generally that recently went up 50% in some cases.
Just give the kids a fucking sandwich. It’s £600m a year. Basically a top four clubs transfer kitty.
Good point!Why would something provided free be subject to tax?
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