Sky Blue Pete
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Bloody hope so
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Grendel
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I don't think the Galloway plan will work and is more likely to take Tory votes - he is pro Brexit and a nationalist. I do not think the Muslim vote here is pro Labour especially with a gay pro Israel candidate
I think getting Jo Cox sister in is a shameless bit of politicking and don't agree with it but its bound to attract sympathy. The Muslim protests at Leadbetter will not go down well.
This has been a rather ugly and unpleasant campaign
shmmeee
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Spot on with that last sentence.
Philosoraptor
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Things may not be going to plan in Labour when labourlist runs an article saying Starmer is not going to resign on the eve of a by-election.
labourlist.org
Starmer "not going to resign" if Labour loses Batley and Spen by-election - LabourList
Keir Starmer’s spokesperson has declared that the Labour leader is “not going to resign” if his party loses…
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Votes being cast today I believe
#announceMP
#announceMP
COV
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That will be why grendel is strangely quiet then I guess... I was expecting to see him gloating
COV
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I don’t do the whole in depth analysis stuff, don’t know enough about it- I was just gonna see what the reaction to the results were
fernandopartridge
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I'd be very surprised if Labour win. They have absolutely no vision, terrified of their own shadow. Whilst the candidate rattles on about there being "no magic money tree" whilst the magic money tree has paid many people for over a year just shows how useless their strategists are. Trying to win yesterday's argument. Morons.
chiefdave
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It would be a miracle if they win this. They had some locals on the radio at lunchtime saying they were longtime Labour voters getting stuck into them for cuts to the local councils budget.
Ian1779
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It’s genuinely terrifying how some of the locals have been hoodwinked into deflecting the blame away from the Tories.
shmmeee
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Yeah there’s a lot in this.
Attitudes today to tax and spend to get out of the COVID recession are polar opposite to 2008.
Worrying they can’t see it.
shmmeee
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The threatening funding shite is proper scummy campaigning. Shouldn’t be allowed. And is a load of bollocks anyway, see all the Tory councils that end up begging for cash recently.
It was always thus really.
However with devolvement etc, metro mayor's it's a simpler stchik to play especially under Osborne.
Philosoraptor
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You have to remember that Coventry Labour agreed to abide by the spending review as part of the devolution deal without even knowing what they were.
Coventry councillor says West Midlands Combined Authority is big smokescreen – AFTER vote to join
A LEADING Coventry Labour councillor has admitted the West Midlands Combined Authority is the \
coventryobserver.co.uk
Always got to blame the Labour right as well; Lucas, Ruane and Co with forcing this on to the people of Coventry without a referendum.
Apparently, populism was to blame.
With powers going from the City Council to the WMCA in the setting up of the combined authority, which made a referendum necessary, and also DEMSOC stating a referendum was also needed, then blame needs to be proportioned to the advice Coventry Labour received from certain officers from CCC, and of course, to the Labour right in Coventry and other Labour councils as well as the Tory Party in general.
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Yes I believe it was rejected at the outset but came to be as finance was linked at a time when councils were starved of funds and selling off assets to survive .You have to remember that Coventry Labour agreed to abide by the spending review as part of the devolution deal without even knowing what they were.
Coventry councillor says West Midlands Combined Authority is big smokescreen – AFTER vote to join
A LEADING Coventry Labour councillor has admitted the West Midlands Combined Authority is the \
Always got to blame on the Labour right as well; Lucas, Ruane and Co with forcing this on to the people of Coventry without a referendum.
Apparently, populism was to blame.
With powers going from the City Council to the WMCA in the setting up of the combined authority, which made a referendum necessary, and also DEMSOC stating a referendum was also needed, then blame needs to be proportioned to the advice Coventry Labour received from certain officers from CCC, and of course, to the Labour right in Coventry and other Labour councils as well as the Tory Party in general.
SomersetSB
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Any idea on the policies of the fifth party on that list? 
They’ve got better odds than the lib dums!!
They’ve got better odds than the lib dums!!
Ian1779
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Not saying those odds are dodgy, but the NIP didn’t even field a candidate.Any idea on the policies of the fifth party on that list?
They’ve got better odds than the lib dums!!
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shmmeee
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Sky Blue Pete
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How can anyone blame the local government for the cuts in the income from central government.
Utterly f’in unbelievable
Utterly f’in unbelievable
Sky Blue Pete
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Can someone please explain to me how the reduction in central government funding over the last 11 years is on labours hands?
oakey
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No but at by elections you have to have policies on everything and are held responsible for everything if you are Labour. If you're Tory you can hide away, put out a vague promise to "level up' and nobody will remember that your party has been in power for 11 years and will vote for you as you represent the change they angrily want.
Philosoraptor
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It is called growing a backbone and not implementing Tory cuts to local services which should have happened.
Amazing how money can now be found to protect businesses that didn't bother to get the correct insurance to get through a pandemic.
A hat stand with a red rosette would have been more effective in defending cuts to local services than a lot of Labour councillors
City Centre first though eh?
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Philosoraptor
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Philosoraptor
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The second bundle count going on in Batley & Spen. It looks close. If this is repeated across the country then it looks like Yvette Cooper will lose her seat.
Philosoraptor
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shmmeee
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Great stuff. A decent MP wins, and this will annoy all the right people.
Jeremy Corbyn, Chris Williamson, Owen Jones, Vladimir Putin, Saddam Hussein, your boy took one hell of a beating.
Philosoraptor
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shmmeee
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Seriously? Literally yesterday you were saying if Labour didn’t win it it was proof Starmer should go. And I was explaining the long term trends to you.
Sorry your man lost though. Better luck next time.