Sky Blue Pete
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Can someone please explain to me how the reduction in central government funding over the last 11 years is on labours hands?
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oakey
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No but at by elections you have to have policies on everything and are held responsible for everything if you are Labour. If you're Tory you can hide away, put out a vague promise to "level up' and nobody will remember that your party has been in power for 11 years and will vote for you as you represent the change they angrily want.
Philosoraptor
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It is called growing a backbone and not implementing Tory cuts to local services which should have happened.
Amazing how money can now be found to protect businesses that didn't bother to get the correct insurance to get through a pandemic.
A hat stand with a red rosette would have been more effective in defending cuts to local services than a lot of Labour councillors
City Centre first though eh?
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Philosoraptor
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Philosoraptor
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The second bundle count going on in Batley & Spen. It looks close. If this is repeated across the country then it looks like Yvette Cooper will lose her seat.
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shmmeee
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Great stuff. A decent MP wins, and this will annoy all the right people.
Jeremy Corbyn, Chris Williamson, Owen Jones, Vladimir Putin, Saddam Hussein, your boy took one hell of a beating.
Philosoraptor
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shmmeee
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Seriously? Literally yesterday you were saying if Labour didn’t win it it was proof Starmer should go. And I was explaining the long term trends to you.
Sorry your man lost though. Better luck next time.
Philosoraptor
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Did I say that or support any of the candidates?
Ian1779
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It was a good victory… but your last sentence makes you sound a bit of a knob, so I’ll assume it was just poor satire.
skybluetony176
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Was fully expecting Labour to lose a big chunk of votes with Galloway standing but was also expecting Conservative gains, which doesn’t look to have happened. Maybe just maybe people are wising up to Boris and his new Tories and what a bunch of self serving, lying, hypocritical, cunts they are.
shmmeee
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I’m a Labour member and the way that lot have been acting (throw in Bastani as well) has been fucking disgraceful. Jones cuddling up to a homophobe just because he didn’t like Starmer was sickening. They can all get in the bin, none of them are Labour. And yes Putin and Hussein are both connected to Galloway. The guy is a racist, homophobic c**t who supports genocidal maniacs and covers for authoritarian regimes and the lefts love affair with him because he might annoy Starmer is frankly disgusting.
They can all get in the bin.
Ian1779
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I’m a Labour member too, but you’re being a knob putting Corbyn in that group. You’ve made it clear your thoughts on him, and he’s no longer leader, you’ve got a new leader you can tie yourself in knots defending.
The rest can get in the bin though totally agree.
Sky Blue Pete
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What does that mean ‘city centre first?’
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Don’t know enough about candidates/local area to pass much comment but looking at the votes cast and previous polling there’s almost no doubt Hancocks behaviour followed by Johnson’s delayed/weak response (has rightly) cost the Tories the seat.
Good, as it tells the government that, to some extent at least, people are watching
Good, as it tells the government that, to some extent at least, people are watching
beat me to it
edit - saying that might be a bit disrespectful to leadbeater though. Probably a decent candidate. Also Galloway was the disruptor so Tories would’ve only really won it by default anyway
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Sky Blue Pete
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And I’m not sure it is called having a backbone. Do you have any examples?
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stupot07
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After a couple of weeks banging on Labour had absolutely no chance, Starmer needs to go, etc. Instead of congratulating labour on a narrow but completely un expected win given the context, Nicky Campbell questioning this morning on 5 Live was all around how poor the margin was and labour didn't do very well, and starmer needs to go.
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Ian1779
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You can’t compare majority between GE and by-election because of the numbers of people voting. Labour’s victory was unexpected, and would suggest the new MP did an awful lot of work on the ground which is a credit to her.
8000 people voted for Galloway - they can’t all be racists and homophobes. Labour need to find out why some of their felt they had to take their vote elsewhere.
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Galloway always picks up some votes wherever he runs, though. With more organisation, he could have been the left's Farage.
stupot07
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The Tories have cut central government funding going to local governments by 40% over 11 years.
How are local authorities supposed to grow a backbone and not implement cuts when they have physically been given 40% funding?
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shmmeee
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Sorry but Corbyn is in that group. He’s mates with all of that lot. His wife was writing about how Starmer had to go if he lost. Since he got kicked out the PLP for racism he’s shown his colours quite frankly.
You know I voted for him and backed him for most of his time as leader, but since then the guy has shown he’s not a Labour supporter just like Williamson, just like Jones. And if they aren’t with us they’re against us and IMO just useful idiots for the Tories.
But feel free to point out where Corbyn has disowned Galloway and supported Labour during this by election.
I’ll help you out, here’s his Twitter feed:
Where he manages to post about every cause on Earth but can’t bring himself to comment on the racism, misogyny and homophobia being perpetrated by Galloway. Because he wanted him to win to prove a point. That’s the great morals of the guy.
Philosoraptor
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I'll have to find the pdf. You will be amazed who one of the authors of the report is
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Jocky Wilson?I'll have to find the pdf. You will be amazed who one of the authors of the report is
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I suspect many were indeed racists and homophobes
Labour struggling for vital Muslim votes in UK by-election as George Galloway seeks to poach voters | The National
Five Muslim groups in Batley and Spen warn party their votes are ‘taken for granted’
www.thenationalnews.com
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fernandopartridge
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The brass neck of the right of the labour party talking about not getting behind the leader
shmmeee
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Im not on the right thanks.
It was shit in 2016 and it’s shit in 2021.
You’re either helping Labour win or you’re helping the Tories. And those I’ve mentioned have been more anti Labour than anti Tory the past couple of years.
But sure. Let’s pretend George Galloway is a lovely man for internal Labour point scoring reasons.
Grendel
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I suspect many were indeed racists and homophobes
Labour struggling for vital Muslim votes in UK by-election as George Galloway seeks to poach voters | The National
Five Muslim groups in Batley and Spen warn party their votes are ‘taken for granted’
Indeed - it’s funny that Galloway probably helped Labour get elected in the end - he seems to want to go to court for some reason - he’s gone the full Trump these days
shmmeee
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He probably galvanised support TBH. The Tories still should’ve won though. Where did the Kipper Independent votes go?
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I think the opposite - he took away a fair bit of the muslim base, that part that is racist and homophobic.
Ian1779
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He didn’t get kicked out of the PLP for racism - you’re talking shit there.
They literally had to lock Starmer up ‘fridge-style’ and he managed what a dozen or so tweets in support?
But you keep getting outraged about the former leader and how we should all unequivocally get behind the current leader regardless…
defintely.not.a.cult.