fernandopartridge
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Nobody has to tighten their belts to afford better pensions, get in the real world about where the money comes from Steve.
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We’re potentially on the way towards recession at some point in the coming months, might not feel like that at the moment due to covid bounce back/gov support, but it’s a distinct possibility. Even if not there will be decisions people won’t like.
If you put up personal taxes, it’s likely to suppress spending at a time many industries like hospitality, are desperate for it. CT is already going back up. Other company taxes when companies are just about holding on ?
If there’s £6-8bn free I’d personally put it towards social care, maintaining temp UC or replenish some of the foreign aid budget (using it solely for vaccinations in developing world). An increase in pensions above inflation obviously helps the poorest pensioners but also puts hundreds of millions /billions in pockets of people who don’t necessarily need it.
Ps I know we’ve got differing views on continually printing more cash.
What I’m saying, if it’s a government decision to level up pensions with other countries that’s one thing, if it’s caused by a total unforeseen anomaly it’s another.
Any decision to change the triple lock will hurt the Tories, as that’s more their voting base, they wont do it lightly.
Ccfcisparks
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Ian1779
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That won’t happen though will it, they will have a compliant media to rely on that will tell the story of it being the fault of wokies/young/welfare claimants/foreigners etc… and it won’t impact them at all.
skybluetony176
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What I’m saying is that the government has the golden opportunity to level up as per Boris’ keynotes levelling up speech and they’re choosing not to. Why should anyone believe anything else in that speech?
skybluetony176
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We seen it yesterday in the commons. Parliament recalled to discuss the Afghanistan crisis and Desmond Swayne and John Redwood took the crisis as an opportunity to stoke the culture war they want. Two of the front pages this morning lead with John Redwoods attack. Pleased to say that The Mail was critical at least although it has targeted specifically Raab who presumably is going to fall on his sword so Boris doesn’t.
skybluetony176
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Changed the clock deliberately placed in the background but not his wrist watch. Good old honest Boris. Can’t even level up his timepieces when setting up a fake photo opportunity.
Unless he uses that old trick of advancing his timepiece so as to never be late .
Lol
Sharp eye's though.
skybluetony176
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Problem is Boris would need to set his watch 2 weeks in advance for that to work.
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God, I feel sick posting this, but...
Carrie sets it for him on a Monday morning,off you go.
David O'Day
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That is a load of nonsense though, it admits that it would the first thing anyone would change
dutchman
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If the Tories use the pandemic as an excuse to not raise pensions this year then next year they'll find a different excuse and so on the year after that.
You can always find a reason why something should be raised or not raised if you look hard enough.
stupot07
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Dominic Raab under pressure to quit after delegating ‘rescue call’ for Afghan translators
Foreign secretary’s position ‘untenable’ after claims he made himself unavailable on holiday as Afghanistan fell
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Dog
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Kids as young as 4?
Ask any 4 year old about themselves. All they will know is their name and if they are a boy or a girl. Yet some want us to believe that they know much more. And now some want us to believe it should all be done without the knowledge of their parents?
It has gone so far now that even those in the gay community can't even agree on titles given. I challenge anyone to name half of the titles given to those who don't comply to 'normality'. It was over 50 at the last count. Yet children are now supposed to understand all of this and decide who and what they want to be.
Let children be children. And the occasional one that knows they are trapped in the wrong body given all the help they need.
I am knocking on in years now. I have had two families to bring up. The older children were confident. The younger children have struggled with self identification because they have been told to question everything. I have a daughter who has just started uni. She was taught to think she is gay if she had feelings for another girl. This is normal for a girl growing up. I am very close to her and always have been. She is closer to me than her own mother. She has told me she will make sure any children that she eventually has will not be swung by popular demand like she was herself. So I get my own thoughts from personal experience and not from those who shout the loudest.
And yes I do have several gay friends. I used to go clubbing in gay nightclubs. Rockshots in Newcastle was my favourite. All they wanted was equality. Had a heart to heart with one of them recently. His thoughts are that it has become a competition to be the most different to others in the gay community. He doesn't even know what titles are to be given these days. And he says worse of all are those who are 'straight' thinking they know best or just want to make a name for themselves making statements that even the gay community don't agree with. And most people are too scared to talk about as they know someone is always ready to be overly upset about anything and everything.
Dog
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Who is that?
Saying that should have asked someone else as you seem to get most things wrong.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Dog
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Most people seem to on here. What the humble pie thread was about.
Dog
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Is this street slang as I don't understand
skybluetony176
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I've no idea but is this some kind of trope or slur?
skybluetony176
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Well, the point can’t be attacked sooo…
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‘Blue hydrogen is at best an expensive distraction, and at worst a lock-in for continued fossil fuel use,’ says Chris Jackson
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shmmeee
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Regarding B. There’s a ton of evidence that in the majority of cases not affirming leads to dysphoria resolving at puberty. Social transition often leads to puberty blockers which leads to it persisting.
This isn’t a “be nice” thing. This is likely putting kids on a track to castration and lifelong medical intervention. That shouldn’t be taken lightly.
To pretend you know more about child psychology than actual child psychologists or that teacher do is downright ridiculous and dangerous.
Treating this like being gay or gender non confirming is massively out of whack with all we know about childhood dysphoria.
On the wider point. My six year old would eat nothing but sweets if we listened to her opinions. Parenting isn’t just letting kids do whatever. They’re kids and parental responsibility exists for a reason.
fatso
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Unfortunately the fact that Boris has a fucking ridiculously large parliamentary majority means he can pretty much do what the fuck he likes, including reneging on a manifesto pledge. Unfortunately Corbyn and momentum have fucked Labour up completely and handed Boris a clear run to do absolutely anything with no one to hold him to account.
Ian1779
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I think trying to circumvent the Brexit vote is what has done it. Momentum - who last time I heard were a fringe group in their own echo chamber, wasn’t the reason the Red Wall voters crossed the divide so to speak.
Evo1883
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That attutude surely only sees you through to a certain point .
Eventually the electorate will turn their back on him no matter who is in charge of Labour
fatso
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Yea maybe, trouble is it's going to take one hell of a swing to make a real difference.
It's just the size of the tory majority is bordering on being un-democratic.
Grendel
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Johnson has more appeal than Starmer in many traditional Labour areas - Starmer is really rather terrible. As an aside I did love the Afghan debate the other day on channel 4 when Tobias Elwood was laying into the Tory policy on Afghanistan and Corbyn in full alignment with it
Dog
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Hi Ann.
The best thing about BJ is when I get one when least expected off my wife.
The one you are on about is an utter disgrace. Same for a lot if not most of his cabinet. And apart from the lies and worse he looks like a vagabond.
He turns up for meetings with other leaders looking like he has wired himself up to the mains to give him a bit of life. I struggle to work out how anyone can defend him in any way.