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[COV]

There was an appetite to leave the EU and he was proving useful. Outside of that I think most take him for what he is.

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Rarely seen anyone be able to wind so many people up so easily, he’d be lethal on here

 

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[TomRad85]

The irony of your post is you’re accusing me of taking him seriously on the word of a poster who voted for him as an endorsement of his policy, lovingly referred to him as “the man” repeatedly and proudly has him as an avatar. You’re asking the wrong person and believing the wrong person to boot.

Reading between the lines I think its pretty clear G is trolling, much like 'the man' himself. Whereas you did actually vote for UKIP didn't you?

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[Sick Boy]

I'm still not sure what's making her a twat .. probably just me , seems a nice lady tbh

I’m a republican, so am biased but have nothing against her personally. I do think it’ll be interesting once Charles is king though.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I can show you absolutely loads of examples of people being tricked into reading things out on radio and TV if you like

It's absolutely a nothing story

Seen plenty been tricked into reading out rude names. But if I saw ‘up the RA’ coming up I’d like to think I’d have noticed.

 

[Sick Boy]

Seen plenty been tricked into reading out rude names. But if I saw ‘up the RA’ coming up I’d like to think I’d have noticed.

Even the great Partridge fell for a blast of come out ye black and tans

 

[skybluetony176]

Reading between the lines I think its pretty clear G is trolling, much like 'the man' himself. Whereas you did actually vote for UKIP didn't you?

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If he’s trolling you’re the only one actually buying it. He did vote for Ferage and as an endorsement of policy, at a point when he had a true IRA apologist in the ranks too.

I voted once ahead of Cameron’s pre EU negotiations, not as an endorsement of anything, as a protest to the EU to take the Cameron negotiations seriously ahead of the referendum. I’ve never once agreed with Ferage, UKIP or the Brexit party on anything. Grendull on the other hand…

 

[Ian1779]

UKIP got nearly 4m votes in 2015, third most in the UK and more than Lib Dems and SNP combined.

The guy is a fucking tool, but many, many people take him very seriously.

Because he is very clever in the fact he knows how to tap into peoples worst fears and insecurities.

 

[wingy]

Seen plenty been tricked into reading out rude names. But if I saw ‘up the RA’ coming up I’d like to think I’d have noticed.

Richard Ashcroft!!?

 

[COV]

Richard Ashcroft!!?

Raddy Avramovic m8

 

[Grendel]

Reading between the lines I think its pretty clear G is trolling, much like 'the man' himself. Whereas you did actually vote for UKIP didn't you?

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no he supported them - also he said he’d proudly march alongside a certain person who supported Tommy Robinson - he got very agitated when I accused UKIP of being racist - it’s good when tone says we know what we voted for as he voted UKIP and green in tbe last 5 years

 

[skybluetony176]

no he supported them - also he said he’d proudly march alongside a certain person who supported Tommy Robinson - he got very agitated when I accused UKIP of being racist - it’s good when tone says we know what we voted for as he voted UKIP and green in tbe last 5 years

You’d make a good Tory MP. It doesn’t matter that it’s a lie, you just want people to believe it.

For starters I didn’t march along side any Tommy Robinson fan. I couldn’t attend either marches as I was on holiday. A point I’ve made numerous times to you but hey the truth is irrelevant to you.

Secondly you’re rather disingenuously suggesting that the 6000 (IRC) city fans who did attend the marches marched in support of Tommy Robinson somehow because one of the people organising it supports Tommy Robinson. Which of course is complete bollocks. They were marching for their football team, nothing else. So again the truth is irrelevant to you.

Thirdly. Given you pinched your nose and stood arm in arm with racists to vote leave you’re really no one to cast aspersions. Not everyone who voted brexit is racist but everyone who is racist voted brexit and you pinched your nose and got into bed with them. I didn’t.

Fourthly. All the racist there’s ever been on here and the true UKIP supporters fucking love you. You’re like a poster boy to them. I’m pleased to report that they all think I’m a c**t. What is it they like about you?

Finally. You had no problem voting for Ferage and endorsing his policies on here. How come it’s not racist when you vote Ferage but anyone else who has for any reason is a racist.

 

[Evo1883]

You’d make a good Tory MP. It doesn’t matter that it’s a lie, you just want people to believe it.

For starters I didn’t march along side any Tommy Robinson fan. I couldn’t attend either marches as I was on holiday. A point I’ve made numerous times to you but hey the truth is irrelevant to you.

Secondly you’re rather disingenuously suggesting that the 6000 (IRC) city fans who did attend the marches marched in support of Tommy Robinson somehow because one of the people organising it supports Tommy Robinson. Which of course is complete bollocks. They were marching for their football team, nothing else. So again the truth is irrelevant to you.

Thirdly. Given you pinched your nose and stood arm in arm with racists to vote leave you’re really no one to cast aspersions. Not everyone who voted brexit is racist but everyone who is racist voted brexit and you pinched your nose and got into bed with them. I didn’t.

Fourthly. All the racist there’s ever been on here and the true UKIP supporters fucking love you. You’re like a poster boy to them. I’m pleased to report that they all think I’m a c**t. What is it they like about you?

Finally. You had no problem voting for Ferage and endorsing his policies on here. How come it’s not racist when you vote Ferage but anyone else who has for any reason is a racist.

Actually .. I know somebody who owns a business whose a bit of a racist c**t who voted remain, purely for import export reasons

I'm absolutely 1,000,000,000 % sure that not every racist person voted leave .

Just FYI

 

[skybluetony176]

Actually .. I know somebody who owns a business whose a bit of a racist c**t who voted remain.

I'm absolutely 1,000,000,000 % sure that not every racist person voted leave .

Just FYI

I would say a higher percentage of racist people voted leave by some margin than remain. By way of comparison I’d say that the majority if not all people who attended both marches were in no way marching in favour of Tommy Robinson. Grendull is the one being disingenuous here not me. I would think as a CCFC fan I’d be more interested in taking him to task over me. You may have attended the marches yourself along with about 6000 others. If you did I’m sure that doesn’t make you or any of the others a racist like grendull is suggesting.

 

[Evo1883]

I would say a higher percentage of racist people voted leave by some margin than remain. By way of comparison I’d say that the majority if not all people who attended both marches were in no way marching in favour of Tommy Robinson. Grendull is the one being disingenuous here not me. I would think as a CCFC fan I’d be more interested in taking him to task over me. You may have attended the marches yourself along with about 6000 others. If you did I’m sure that doesn’t make you or any of the others a racist like grendull is suggesting.

I agree that more racists voted leave , alot more ..

And did you actually vote ukip ?

Never bothered to look back

I'm guessing no

 

[skybluetony176]

I agree that more racists voted leave , alot more ..

And did you actually vote ukip ?

Never bothered to look back

I'm guessing no

Look at the top of the page. I explain myself there.

 

[Evo1883]

Look at the top of the page. I explain myself there.

OK mate cheers






Fascist

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well you have to ask Tone the appeal but like I said, largely a protest vote for a troll candidate I'd imagine. There are many out there who won't touch Labour or the Tories with a 10 ft pole.

The fact a troll party could get more than Lib Dems and SNP tells you all you need to know about those parties too.

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What, that a UK wide party could get more votes than one standing only in Scotland?

 

[Grendel]

OK mate cheers






Fascist

this thread is comedy gold - classic Tony

Imposter on GMK

Just noticed I have an imposter on GMK. Sounds like a smear campaign against my good name as I can currently only find the one post and it has racial undertones, strange that as I have been attacked on here by some GMK faithful for pointing out casual racism on GMK threads. Still imitation is a...

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[TomRad85]

What, that a UK wide party could get more votes than one standing only in Scotland?

I was afraid someone would pick up on that. Point stands for the Lib Dems. SNP just a bunch of sour cunts.

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[Evo1883]

I would say a higher percentage of racist people voted leave by some margin than remain. By way of comparison I’d say that the majority if not all people who attended both marches were in no way marching in favour of Tommy Robinson. Grendull is the one being disingenuous here not me. I would think as a CCFC fan I’d be more interested in taking him to task over me. You may have attended the marches yourself along with about 6000 others. If you did I’m sure that doesn’t make you or any of the others a racist like grendull is suggesting.

Tony mate, grendels had his black book out again and I'm afraid this one's a banger

 

[PVA]

this thread is comedy gold - classic Tony

Imposter on GMK

Just noticed I have an imposter on GMK. Sounds like a smear campaign against my good name as I can currently only find the one post and it has racial undertones, strange that as I have been attacked on here by some GMK faithful for pointing out casual racism on GMK threads. Still imitation is a...

www.skybluestalk.co.uk

Posting that thread is not the gotcha you think it is.

You've been following Tony and blabbering on about UKIP for over 7 years now.

Christ. Try going outside every once in a while.

 

[Evo1883]

Is ANYBODY safe

 

[David O'Day]

Posting that thread is not the gotcha you think it is.

You've been following Tony and blabbering on about UKIP for over 7 years now.

Christ. Try going outside every once in a while.

Grenners in posting soomething that doesn't prove what he says it does shocker.

Just block the same lonely old twat and let him spew his falsehoods about his life to impress a handful of sad lonely cunts on a city forum.

*queue lame ant Irish joke and comment about the RA

 

[COV]

Is ANYBODY safe

Robins, Hyam and Maatsen sure aren’t

 

[skybluetony176]

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Tony mate, grendels had his black book out again and I'm afraid this one's a banger

Well. Again. The assumption there is that everyone who’s voted UKIP is racist. That clearly isn’t true. I’ve never read a UKIP manifesto but I’m sure if they ever did have a policy that was racist it would have been highlighted at the time. The fact is UKIP stood and fought on the same platform as the current PM and the majority of the current government, used all the same arguments, all the same messaging and continue too. If grendull truly believes that UKIP was a racist party for racists then he’s well and truly in that camp as an avid supporter of both Boris and the Tories. That’s Boris who you can legally call a racist without comeback because of what he’s on the record of saying and indeed putting in writing. UKIP of that time period is the current Tory party, I wouldn’t call the current Tory party a racist party or assume that the people who vote for them are racist despite the PM. UKIP and the current Tory party are two cheeks of the same arse.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I was afraid someone would pick up on that. Point stands for the Lib Dems. SNP just a bunch of sour cunts.

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Agreed on both. Though at least if you join the Lib Dems it comes with Ed Davey’s yoga videos.

 

[Evo1883]

Well. Again. The assumption there is that everyone who’s voted UKIP is racist. That clearly isn’t true. I’ve never read a UKIP manifesto but I’m sure if they ever did have a policy that was racist it would have been highlighted at the time. The fact is UKIP stood and fought on the same platform as the current PM and the majority of the current government, used all the same arguments, all the same messaging and continue too. If grendull truly believes that UKIP was a racist party for racists then he’s well and truly in that camp as an avid supporter of both Boris and the Tories. That’s Boris who you can legally call a racist without comeback because of what he’s on the record of saying and indeed putting in writing. UKIP of that time period is the current Tory party, I wouldn’t call the current Tory party a racist party or assume that the people who vote for them are racist despite the PM. UKIP and the current Tory party are two cheeks of the same arse.

 

[Evo1883]

Call me what you want , never voted Tory, ukip , bnp , monster raving looney party ... or Gareth Gates in the xfactor final

 

[COV]

Call me what you want , never voted Tory, ukip , bnp , monster raving looney party ... or Gareth Gates in the xfactor final

Last time I voted it was for Craig to win Big Brother in 2000.. would have gone for Nasty Nick but he got the boot a few weeks previous for cheating

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Translated :

Somebody I dislike vehemently was tricked into saying something online and now that must mean he supports that organisation and nothing else will change my view .

Reality : most people don't give a fuck , and can see what's actually at play


All a bit petty really , yet the society we find ourself in

They wouldn't, however they are both main political party leaders , farage is currently just a talk show host isn't he ?

So what if he's just a talk show host. He's very prominently in the public eye and a lot of people listen to him and believe what he says. He has more influence than most politicians. He has been tricked into saying it but then you've got to ask if something like this gets past him then how likely is it that he's really paying aattention?

It's not like I'm saying he should be investigated/arrested FFS. But if this had been someone else it wouldn't just be dismissed as a mistake. It would be questioned as to how this managed to get through and whether they were paying enough attention to what was being asked of them.

Basically, with someone else it'd be their fault for not noticing it, with Farage it's the person who asked him to say it who's at fault for tricking him.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Farage is kinda funny as him simply existing sends a certain type of person (some can be found in this thread) into total meltdown. In reality I've never actually met a person that takes him seriously.. well apart from Tony, but we've not actually met.

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Well as he was an MEP for ages, was a prominent figure in the Leave campaign and was the leader of a couple of political parties that did well in local elections and got quite a few votes for what were fringe parties it would appear quite a few people take him seriously.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Would rather have a tax on shares as well. If you want to profit from the economy then you can pay something into society.

I assume by that you mean on the share value rather than the returns, be it dividend or capital gain.

In that instance it would form part of a wealth tax, which I think needs looking into.

Obviously it would need structuring such that it would not put off share ownership. It may push more people into preferring providing finance via loans rather than equity, and so therefore an equivalent on loan capital would also need to be introduced.

It would be difficult as share prices can fluctuate quite dramatically. Would you take an average of the closing price at the end of trading everyday?

 

[Grendel]

I assume by that you mean on the share value rather than the returns, be it dividend or capital gain.

In that instance it would form part of a wealth tax, which I think needs looking into.

Obviously it would need structuring such that it would not put off share ownership. It may push more people into preferring providing finance via loans rather than equity, and so therefore an equivalent on loan capital would also need to be introduced.

It would be difficult as share prices can fluctuate quite dramatically. Would you take an average of the closing price at the end of trading everyday?

great plan let’s tax people even more and reduce the future pensions to boot

 

[PVA]

Oh dear

 

[Grendel]

Oh dear

Bit like when jack straw shook Robert Mugawbes hand and said the room was dark and he just couldn’t see his face