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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Naaa. It’s clearly an honest mistake. He’s a good guy.


So had an affair while his wife was having cancer treatment and has made at best ill-judged language that could be construed as racist but doesn't see the problem in it.

He's just following the Boris path to power.
 

Astute

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Literally nothing you are saying makes sense
Someone says he couldn't see a black person properly because it wasn't light enough. But it is OK because he shook his hand. Not guilty.

Two people look similar. Guilty.

Can someone please explain.
 

PVA

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Someone says he couldn't see a black person properly because it wasn't light enough. But it is OK because he shook his hand. Not guilty.

Two people look similar. Guilty.

Can someone please explain.

Literally no one has defended Jack Straw. One person used it as a pathetic deflection from this story.

And to repeat, he didn't say two people look similar. He said 'they all look the same'
 

COV

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Someone says he couldn't see a black person properly because it wasn't light enough. But it is OK because he shook his hand. Not guilty.

Two people look similar. Guilty.

Can someone please explain.

I get the feeling that would turn into a very long & unrewarding conversation, so no.
 

Astute

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Literally no one has defended Jack Straw. One person used it as a pathetic deflection from this story.

And to repeat, he didn't say two people look similar. He said 'they all look the same'
So nobody said that two people looked similar on here and I replied to that? 😁
 

Astute

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I get the feeling that would turn into a very long & unrewarding conversation, so no.
And they are the two I quoted. So of course nobody can answer.

I see it is all politically based on here still on who is defended and attacked.

Racism is racism. End of.
 

Astute

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It was more about your jump to try and question whether he said it at all because of your bias that makes you think all accusations of racism against a RW politician are false.
My bias? So what is my bias?

Boris is an absolute idiot. I have never voted Tory. I have never voted UKIP. My wife and younger kids live in an EU country. I will be joining them in 18 months. Yet because I question all sides I am accused of bias.

Time to leave you all to it. Not getting dragged into this Labour/Tory bullshit bias thing again.
 

Liquid Gold

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It was more about your jump to try and question whether he said it at all because of your bias that makes you think all accusations of racism against a RW politician are false.
No he's the logical centre ground guy that doesn't go for bias from either side














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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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My bias? So what is my bias?

Boris is an absolute idiot. I have never voted Tory. I have never voted UKIP. My wife and younger kids live in an EU country. I will be joining them in 18 months. Yet because I question all sides I am accused of bias.

Time to leave you all to it. Not getting dragged into this Labour/Tory bullshit bias thing again.

If this had been a member of a different party my opinion would be exactly the same. It's unacceptable and whoever did it should face severe reprimands for it.
 

COV

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That's good, I just don't know why you're trying to make excuses for him by saying he didn't say it.

I also couldn't get my head around how Farage promoting the IRA was swept under the carpet as a "non story" bearing in mind how many times pictures of Gerry Adams make an appearance on here
 

Astute

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That's good, I just don't know why you're trying to make excuses for him by saying he didn't say it.
Here we go again..... as usual.

Point out where I said he didn't say it.

Idiots paradise on here.
 

Astute

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If this had been a member of a different party my opinion would be exactly the same. It's unacceptable and whoever did it should face severe reprimands for it.
Someone gets the point 👍

But look at the others on here. And the idiots are in attack mode for me pointing out a handshake doesn't make up for a comment made.
 

PVA

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Here we go again..... as usual.

Point out where I said he didn't say it.

Idiots paradise on here.

You said that it's not racist to say two people look alike.

I replied to say that's not what he said and you came back with 'did he actually say that or are you making that up?'

This is a strange hill to die on
 

Liquid Gold

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Someone gets the point 👍

But look at the others on here. And the idiots are in attack mode for me pointing out a handshake doesn't make up for a comment made.
Point out where someone said a handshake made up for a comment made.

Idiots paradise coming on here from the Sunderland board.
 

Astute

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You said that it's not racist to say two people look alike.

I replied to say that's not what he said and you came back with 'did he actually say that or are you making that up?'

This is a strange hill to die on
What a load of bullshit from yourself as usual.

I asked if it was or not. You know..... as debate. Are we only allowed to say it about white people? Have you ever said yourself that two people look similar? We all have. The context needs to be looked at.

Then something else comes up. That's different. But the comment I first replied to was just two people looking similar. Is it allowed?
 

PVA

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What a load of bullshit from yourself as usual.

I asked if it was or not. You know..... as debate. Are we only allowed to say it about white people? Have you ever said yourself that two people look similar? We all have. The context needs to be looked at.

Then something else comes up. That's different. But the comment I first replied to was just two people looking similar. Is it allowed?

Are you allowed to say two people look alike? Of course.

But he didn't say that.

It's not my fault you didn't read the story properly.
 

Astute

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You're all missing the crux of the matter.
The fact is Jack Straw shook Robert Mugabes hand almost 20 years ago and that's the real issue of the day.
NO ONE SAID A HANDSHAKE MAKES UP FOR ANY COMMENT MADE
Point out where someone said a handshake made up for a comment made.

Idiots paradise coming on here from the Sunderland board.
You were both saying......
 

PVA

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You were both saying......

Saying what? You're not making any sense.

Look I'm not trying to suggest you're a racist or anything, I just think you must have got the wrong end of the stick here because your argument is very strange and you're not making much sense.
 

Astute

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That literally isn't excusing it at all. Is your brain cavity filled with marshmallows?
It doesn't matter that he said he couldn't see him in a room without much light because the handshake was of more importance.

No. The comment was also made.
 

Astute

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Saying what? You're not making any sense.

Look I'm not trying to suggest you're a racist or anything, I just think you must have got the wrong end of the stick here because your argument is very strange and you're not making much sense.
You said nobody put on here that two people look alike. Yet it was you who put it up. You said nobody put more importance on a handshake than a racist comment. But it was also you that said it.

Yet I am supposed to be the one who doesn't make sense. OK.
 

Liquid Gold

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It doesn't matter that he said he couldn't see him in a room without much light because the handshake was of more importance.

No. The comment was also made.
Oh my fucking christ mate.

It was a post pointing out the insanity of somebody else posting something, that nobody agrees is a good thing, that happened 17 years ago to deflect from something, that people are deflecting away from, that's happened today.

If you don't get it you are either incredibly thick or just trolling.
 
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