Probably difficult to pin down the full motives behind it other than he’s probably just a sad, terrorist nutter
By all accounts Amess appears a decent guy/politician
Possibly. Of course my take is based on the assumption the residence in Kentish Town is his which it may not be.
Though if it isn't that opens up a load more questions.
The language used around MPs/politicians/politics is unhealthy. I personally think there is plenty of incompetence (in all parties) however I don’t agree when words such as ‘evil’ are tossed around.
His voting record was questionable on gay rights. Not for an islamic fundamentalist, mind...!Probably difficult to pin down the full motives behind it other than he’s probably just a sad, terrorist nutter
By all accounts Amess appears a decent guy/politician
His voting record was questionable on gay rights. Not for an islamic fundamentalist, mind...!
Absolutely, but when it was put to the the PM he described it as 'humbug'.
He’d backed and was passionate about bringing unaccompanied children out of refuge camps, he also seemed to have a good relationship with the local Muslim community who turned out yesterday to pay their respects in numbers.Or perhaps because this MP was openly Catholic and spoke more about his faith and that gave some extra motive for the killer.
Famous for being anti cake, of course.I’ve not really looked into voting records and had never heard of him personally, more basing it on hearing views from politicians from all parties
Famous for being anti cake, of course.
I did post it up as soon as news filtered through, but it seemed slightly disrespectful in hindsight, so took it down.Brass eye?
I did post it up as soon as news filtered through, but it seemed slightly disrespectful in hindsight, so took it down.
Mind you, compared to some of this thread, it was pretty low on the disrespectful scale...!
I don't know if he did, tbh, although any permission would be to use the interview on TV for a programme called Brass Eye anyway, not what type of programme it turned out to be.Didn't realise He was involved in that, I'd imagine he had to give permission for it to be used so fair play.
I don't know if he did, tbh.
I do know he tabled a question for PMQs on the dangers of cake!
No one on this thread has ever used the words of Conservative politicians against them then? God forbid some are forced to look a bit closer to home.Pretty much:
Did wonder if maybe his surgery was less security conscious than the London consituencies.
And if that is the reason then a lot of planning and research went into this murder.
No one on this thread has ever used the words of Conservative politicians against them then? God forbid some are forced to look a bit closer to home.
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Hmmm I not going to get into another shit slinging contest tbh, but in this thread I'm not sure that's the case.The difference is the vast majority are perfectly able and happy to criticise Tories and Labour.
Tory fan boys exclusively criticise Labour and are completely incapable of criticising the Tories, and they won't have a bad word said about them.
No one on this thread has ever used the words of Conservative politicians against them then? God forbid some are forced to look a bit closer to home.
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No one on this thread has ever used the words of Conservative politicians against them then? God forbid some are forced to look a bit closer to home.
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The press barely covered it and I don’t think he was even reprimanded, his party did reprimanded a couple of weeks later though for suggesting that two Asian members of the cabinet look the same.This is the only example I'm going to put on here, but a Tory MP joked about sending a bomb to a Labour MP only two weeks ago and I don't think it's been mentioned, the hypocrisy is off the scale.
You either say tone down the rhetoric and apply it to all sides or you don't.
I think its time it was toned down. I could point out several examples of hypocrisy by posters on this thread,they could probably do the same to me but I'm not going to because it just descends into more tit for tat bollocks and a mans murder becomes weaponised.
You're all saying Tories give it the but but Labour but that's all everyone has been doing in this thread the other way around. It's all over the shop isn't it.. that joke was made in a private WhatsApp group in fairness, whereas I could point to comments made in public by the laughable David Lammy and possibly the most hate filled man in British politics, John McDonnell. Its back and forth and no one gains anything... I personally have been trying to look a little closer to home at some things, I really don't think the same can be said for a few on this forum.This is the only example I'm going to put on here, but a Tory MP joked about sending a bomb to a Labour MP only two weeks ago and I don't think it's been mentioned, the hypocrisy is off the scale.
You either say tone down the rhetoric and apply it to all sides or you don't.
I think its time it was toned down. I could point out several examples of hypocrisy by posters on this thread,they could probably do the same to me but I'm not going to because it just descends into more tit for tat bollocks and a mans murder becomes weaponised.
You're all saying Tories give it the but but Labour but that's all everyone has been doing in this thread the other way around. It's all over the shop isn't it.. that joke was made in a private WhatsApp group in fairness, whereas I could point to comments made in public by the laughable David Lammy and possibly the most hate filled man in British politics, John McDonnell. Its back and forth and no one gains anything... I personally have been trying to look a little closer to home at some things, I really don't think the same can be said for a few on this forum.
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You told me to give it a rest when I countered what Angela Radnor said with what Tories including the PM had said. You ain’t looking that close.You're all saying Tories give it the but but Labour but that's all everyone has been doing in this thread the other way around. It's all over the shop isn't it.. that joke was made in a private WhatsApp group in fairness, whereas I could point to comments made in public by the laughable David Lammy and possibly the most hate filled man in British politics, John McDonnell. Its back and forth and no one gains anything... I personally have been trying to look a little closer to home at some things, I really don't think the same can be said for a few on this forum.
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No I'm holding a mirror to you, you idiot.You told me to give it a rest when I countered what Angela Radnor said with what Tories including the PM had said. You ain’t looking that close.
No I'm holding a mirror to you, you idiot.
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You really aren’t. I read back your responses to my posts before posting a couple of minutes ago. You tried to shut me down, nothing else. You didn’t acknowledge or accept what I was saying even though it’s unequivocally true. Go away and be quiet was your response. Holding a mirror up is A) not dismissing what Angela Rayner said, which I didn’t. And then B) demonstrate that it’s happening across the floor, which is what I did.No I'm holding a mirror to you, you idiot.
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No I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of people in this thread who are happy to weaponise the words of Conservatives but get butt hurt when the shoe is now on the other foot. I should have known it was a pointless endeavour.No, you're still petty point scoring.
People either call out the comments by Rayner and Johnson or you call out neither.
People either call out the threats and made to Abbott and to Patel or you call out nether.
But if you do call out one and not the other then you're just weaponising it for your own agenda.
No I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of people in this thread who are happy to weaponise the words of Conservatives but get butt hurt when the shoe is now on the other foot. I should have known it was a pointless endeavour.
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And you mine.Thanks for proving my point.
I try to shut you down because you talk shit at every opportunity. Get a hobby, seriously.You really aren’t. I read back your responses to my posts before posting a couple of minutes ago. You tried to shut me down, nothing else. You didn’t acknowledge or accept what I was saying even though it’s unequivocally true. Go away and be quiet was your response. Holding a mirror up is A) not dismissing what Angela Rayner said, which I didn’t. And then B) demonstrate that it’s happening across the floor, which is what I did.
You also got snotty with me when I pointed out that elements of the far right are essentially blaming him for his own death because he supports taking children out of refugee camps.
You’re burying your head in the sand not holding a mirror up to anything. There is an adult conversation to have here if you’re interested but that isn’t going to happen by telling people to shut up and go away.
No one has responded to posts of what AR said anything like you have to posts pointing out what Tories have said. You’ve told people to shut up, go away and resulted to name calling.No I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of people in this thread who are happy to weaponise the words of Conservatives but get butt hurt when the shoe is now on the other foot. I should have known it was a pointless endeavour.
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And you mine.
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How can I be talking shit when what I’ve said is factually correct. Just because you don’t like what I’ve said doesn’t make it shit.I try to shut you down because you talk shit at every opportunity. Get a hobby, seriously.
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I'm not even talking about you specifically Clint, I've not read all your posts. There's a lot of Rayner said this but this Tory said x, y and z. If you can't see it it's your bias showing. I'll remember that this is how it works next time someone on here flags something a Conservative says again and we'll just have another good old shit slinging contest. Excellent.U haven't. I've avoided making it about sides as much as possible.
You've tried to make excuses for a man talking about sending bombs. Hypocrisy.
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