Do you want to discuss boring politics? (22 Viewers)

[COV]

Oh he's still going.

During the match as well he was at it.

 

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[Astute]

Actually I did nothing of the sort

I pointed out the dishonest empty tributes made when this man died. Rayner and her ilk are without quality. She called ALL Tories homophobic, misogynistic racist scum. It’s a fact. It’s on record - she refused to apologise

While we are at it her mentor Jon McDonnell of course once said what’s a dead Tory after the Brighton bombing - a start and of course said he wished he’d assinatated thatcher

That’s the left - not moderate Labour - but the snarling bitter class war left that Rayner is a part of

compare her lack of grace and dignity to the man who died

She isn’t fit to lick his boots

Lack of grace and dignity? Maybe you need to look at yourself.

 

[PVA]

Looking better.

Plenty of anti-immigration rhetoric coming up to try and reverse the trend no doubt.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Looking better.

Plenty of anti-immigration rhetoric coming up to try and reverse the trend no doubt.

An electoral pact with the LDs and Greens just to get the Tories out? Hmmm

 

[Grendel]

An electoral pact with the LDs and Greens just to get the Tories out? Hmmm

The poll the other day of course put the Tories 15 points ahead and this poll seems mainly to get traction in tbe anti Johnson Mail on Sunday - which is significant

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The poll the other day of course put the Tories 15 points ahead and this poll seems mainly to get traction in tbe anti Johnson Mail on Sunday - which is significant

Outside the realms of that the Tories aren’t going to get over half the vote in all probability. So it again begs the question above

 

[PVA]

The Yougov poll that had a 15 point lead has shrunk to 10, and seems to be an outlier.

 

[Grendel]

Outside the realms of that the Tories aren’t going to get over half the vote in all probability. So it again begs the question above

it doesn’t as the day Labour stand down people from seats is the day they acknowledge they Are a fringe party

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

it doesn’t as the day Labour stand down people from seats is the day they acknowledge they Are a fringe party

Not necessarily standing down seats

 

[wingy]

Which poll did Marr cite this morning as there was only one point between them as parties,yet huge gap between leaders?

 

[Evo1883]

An electoral pact with the LDs and Greens just to get the Tories out? Hmmm

Only way tbh , hopefully they do

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Only way tbh , hopefully they do

There are more anti-Tories than Tories in this country, given that Labour will not win outright I’m struggling to see how else you get them out.

 

[wingy]

Been a few articles stirring up between PM and treasury ,who incede tally are seemingly manipulating how data is released from the ONS.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Been a few articles stirring up between PM and treasury ,who incede tally are seemingly manipulating how data is released from the ONS.

This makes The Thick Of It look factual

 

[TomRad85]

There are more anti-Tories than Tories in this country, given that Labour will not win outright I’m struggling to see how else you get them out.

There are also more anti Labour than Labour. There's no appetite from Lib Dem voters to buddy up with Labour. If there was they'd just vote Labour.

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[wingy]

There are also more anti Labour than Labour. There's no appetite from Lib Dem voters to buddy up with Labour. If there was they'd just vote Labour.

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Is there much between eithers policy or leaders?

 

[skybluetony176]

I see that neither Labour or Lib Dem’s are going to stand a candidate in the Leigh on Sea by election that sadly is now going to happen. A great gesture from both parties in tragic circumstances.

 

[Grendel]

Not necessarily standing down seats

you also make an assumption no one would defect to Tories and they very much would - also coalition governments have ugly outcomes for the parties propping up the main one

 

[David O'Day]

What the fuck. This can't be allowed surely?

Deliberately using out of date information to mislead the electorate.

There's not going to be an election next year

 

[Nick]

The suspect is the son of a Somali government official and had made an appointment to see him.

Planned... Horrible c**t

 

[clint van damme]

The suspect is the son of a Somali government official and had made an appointment to see him.

Planned... Horrible c**t

Also searching a property in Kentish Town. If that's where he lives then he's travelled quite a way and for some reason he's singled Amess out - but why?
Seems really strange.

 

[Nick]

Also searching a property in Kentish Town. If that's where he lives then he's travelled quite a way and for some reason he's singled Amess out - but why?
Seems really strange.

Some random old history with his dad? No idea . Just seems random

 

[clint van damme]

Some random old history with his dad? No idea . Just seems random

I'm sure it will come out in the course of the investigation.

 

[PVA]

Some random old history with his dad? No idea . Just seems random

Because of Angela Rayner's comments, apparently.

But seriously, I'm guessing if it was an Islamist terror attack he wanted a high profile target and thought an MP would fit the bill? Don't know, but that would be my guess.

 

[Grendel]

Because of Angela Rayner's comments, apparently.

But seriously, I'm guessing if it was an Islamist terror attack he wanted a high profile target and thought an MP would fit the bill? Don't know, but that would be my guess.

Again no one has said because of her comments please keep up

 

[clint van damme]

Because of Angela Rayner's comments, apparently.

But seriously, I'm guessing if it was an Islamist terror attack he wanted a high profile target and thought an MP would fit the bill? Don't know, but that would be my guess.

But if the house they're searching in Kentish Town is his residence why did he travel to Southend?
There are Tory constituencies closer to him than there.
Amess's voting record isn't particularly controversial, as far as middle Eastern policy I'd say its pretty much aligned with most tory mps.

 

[PVA]

Again no one has said because of her comments please keep up

So do why do you and people like your mate 'the excellent' Dan Hodges keep mentioning her if it's nothing to do with her? It's the angle you went with at first because you jumped to conclusions before it was announced as an Islamic terror attack.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

But if the house they're searching in Kentish Town is his residence why did he travel to Southend?
There are Tory constituencies closer to him than there.
Amess's voting record isn't particularly controversial, as far as middle Eastern policy I'd say its pretty much aligned with most tory mps.

I would guess just a case of opportunism.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

But if the house they're searching in Kentish Town is his residence why did he travel to Southend?
There are Tory constituencies closer to him than there.
Amess's voting record isn't particularly controversial, as far as middle Eastern policy I'd say its pretty much aligned with most tory mps.

Reasonable profile, but not top drawer so security less?

More accessible than many?

As not London, less nearby security?

Early in the alphabet to pick?!?

 

[Ian1779]

So do why do you and people like your mate 'the excellent' Dan Hodges keep mentioning her if it's nothing to do with her? It's the angle you went with at first because you jumped to conclusions before it was announced as an Islamic terror attack.

Hodges is a hypocritical scum bag - and yes that description is totally deserved because he’s deliberately choosing this language and behaviour.

 

[clint van damme]

I would guess just a case of opportunism.

Reasonable profile, but not top drawer so security less?

More accessible than many?

As not London, less nearby security?

Early in the alphabet to pick?!?

Did wonder if maybe his surgery was less security conscious than the London consituencies.
And if that is the reason then a lot of planning and research went into this murder.

 

[PVA]

Hodges is a hypocritical scum bag - and yes that description is totally deserved because he’s deliberately choosing this language and behaviour.

Yep and the editors should be pulled up on putting a big picture of Rayner under the headline. So obvious what they are doing.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Did wonder if maybe his surgery was less security conscious than the London consituencies.
And if that is the reason then a lot of planning and research went into this murder.

Or perhaps because this MP was openly Catholic and spoke more about his faith and that gave some extra motive for the killer.

 

[clint van damme]

Or perhaps because this MP was openly Catholic and spoke more about his faith and that gave some extra motive for the killer.

Possibly. Of course my take is based on the assumption the residence in Kentish Town is his which it may not be.
Though if it isn't that opens up a load more questions.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Hodges is a hypocritical scum bag - and yes that description is totally deserved because he’s deliberately choosing this language and behaviour.

Agree that it’s just hypocritical when he’s used similar language in the past however looking at the article he makes some valid points, as did Matthew syed in a Sunday times article a few weeks back. The language used around MPs/politicians/politics is unhealthy. I personally think there is plenty of incompetence (in all parties) however I don’t agree when words such as ‘evil’ are tossed around. I find the hated towards people who ultimately have relatively slightly different views just a bit weird really

....although I can understand it when talking about people on the extremes like BNP etc