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CCFCSteve

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I have to hold my hands up, I said to Faz last week that the party wouldn’t be an issue for the government but was wrong. That was before the constant denials/lies, rumours of more parties, the film of the press officer joking about it and Rees-Mogg...all of which has turned this into a shitstorm with far more media focus

Like a couple of other issues that could’ve been put to bed relatively quickly (Hancock and Cummings being sacked immediately and then the Paterson mess, spring to mind) the situation has been made ten times worse. The lack of judgement is frightening !
 

PVA

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Exactly, it shouldn't have been a problem.

But their flat out refusal to admit something and apologise for it has cost them dearly.

If he'd come out and apologised for it then it would have been brushed under the carpet within a few days/weeks.

They just keep digging themselves deeper deeper. That's the problem when you continually lie, about everything. Eventually it catches you out and there's no coming back.
 

Frostie

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Exactly, it shouldn't have been a problem.

But their flat out refusal to admit something and apologise for it has cost them dearly.

If he'd come out and apologised for it then it would have been brushed under the carpet within a few days/weeks.

They just keep digging themselves deeper deeper. That's the problem when you continually lie, about everything. Eventually it catches you out and there's no coming back.

He literally knows no other way, has continuously lied, blustered & self-served in every role he's had but got elected anyway.
Stunned that people couldn't see through his façade & ironically the parties are probably the least sinister/heinous acts he & his cronies have committed but it's finally hit it home to the average voter.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Exactly, it shouldn't have been a problem.

But their flat out refusal to admit something and apologise for it has cost them dearly.

If he'd come out and apologised for it then it would have been brushed under the carpet within a few days/weeks.

They just keep digging themselves deeper deeper. That's the problem when you continually lie, about everything. Eventually it catches you out and there's no coming back.

I actually think it still would be a problem. Why should it be one rule for them? How can anyone take the rules seriously when they continue to break them in that way.

It fucking winds me up. People couldn´t even have proper funerals for their loved ones to say goodbye, and the people putting those stupid rules in place are there having a jolly and laughing at us.
 

clint van damme

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I actually think it still would be a problem. Why should it be one rule for them? How can anyone take the rules seriously when they continue to break them in that way.

It fucking winds me up. People couldn´t even have proper funerals for their loved ones to say goodbye, and the people putting those stupid rules in place are there having a jolly and laughing at us.

Of course he might not be lying.
Which leaves us with the comforting thought that the man running the country doesn't know whether or not there was a party in his own house.
 

PVA

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I actually think it still would be a problem. Why should it be one rule for them? How can anyone take the rules seriously when they continue to break them in that way.

It fucking winds me up. People couldn´t even have proper funerals for their loved ones to say goodbye, and the people putting those stupid rules in place are there having a jolly and laughing at us.

Oh I agree it should be a problem, I'm just saying that if he'd come out and admitted it & apologised it'd soon be forgotten about, like all their other scandals.

I'm not saying that's right, just what I think would happen.

It was already starting to die down and disappear until this leaked video appeared yesterday.
 

David O'Day

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Of course he might not be lying.
Which leaves us with the comforting thought that the man running the country doesn't know whether or not there was a party in his own house.

Imagine being that on unpopular that the folk who work for you have a party in your own house and don't invite you
 

Marty

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Surely need an election and criminal proceedings now. I know loads that went to parties and whatever, even done it myself, but we aren't running the country. Need to be whiter than white.
 

clint van damme

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clint van damme

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Surely need an election and criminal proceedings now. I know loads that went to parties and whatever, even done it myself, but we aren't running the country. Need to be whiter than white.

We need far more accountability in public office regardless of political hue.
These people are here to serve the public not take the piss out of them.
 

JAM See

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I have to hold my hands up, I said to Faz last week that the party wouldn’t be an issue for the government but was wrong. That was before the constant denials/lies, rumours of more parties, the film of the press officer joking about it and Rees-Mogg...all of which has turned this into a shitstorm with far more media focus

Like a couple of other issues that could’ve been put to bed relatively quickly (Hancock and Cummings being sacked immediately and then the Paterson mess, spring to mind) the situation has been made ten times worse. The lack of judgement is frightening !
It's the Gillian Taylforth effect.

The denial causes more publicity than the offense itself.
 

Liquid Gold

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This has cut through much more than I imagined. My family chat they’re all going on about it and they never discuss politics. Even my sister that voted conservative (already disowned) said she couldn’t vote for him again.
 

Frostie

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And of course the Cabinet Secretary himself is alleged to have been at the party so, as usual, policing themselves.
 

chiefdave

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Even my sister that voted conservative (already disowned) said she couldn’t vote for him again.
This is what I find fascinating with the Conservatives. Everything we know so far indicates it wasn't specifically something organised by Johnson but they will get rid of him and move on like it never happened and nobody else in the party had anything to do with it. Yet people will happily bring up things long departed members of other parties did as a valid reason not to vote for them.
 

JAM See

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Cummings's eye test.

Gove on beak.

Owen Paterson.

Dogs instead of humans.

Christmas parties during Lockdown.

etc. etc. etc.

What a fucking shitshow.
 

skybluetony176

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It seems that the excellent Dan Hodges actually covered the celebrate Dominic Cummins sacking party thrown by Carrie in the PM’s flat last year at the time.
 

skybluetony176

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Cummings's eye test.

Gove on beak.

Owen Paterson.

Dogs instead of humans.

Christmas parties during Lockdown.

etc. etc. etc.

What a fucking shitshow.
Matt Hancock grope

Pritti Patel breaking the ministerial code.

Jacob Rees-Mogg lying to the queen.

Dominic Raab the sea was closed

Dominic Raab the police only prosecute if they catch you in the act so only commit a crime on a shift change.
 

PVA

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And of course the Cabinet Secretary himself is alleged to have been at the party so, as usual, policing themselves.


It's been confirmed he wasn't at the party. So now he can investigate the party that didn't happen.
 
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Matt Hancock grope

Pritti Patel breaking the ministerial code.

Jacob Rees-Mogg lying to the queen.

Dominic Raab the sea was closed

Dominic Raab the police only prosecute if they catch you in the act so only commit a crime on a shift change.
150,000 dead from covid

Abandoning Afgans that supported us to the Taliban

Peppa Pig speech to the CBI

Driver/fuel shortages

Brexit chaos, and not even understanding the implications of the treaty he negotiated
 

PVA

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He's just digging a bigger hole at the Covid press conference.

Gets asked how can people follow the advice knowing that the government can't/won't...

...and proceeds to ignore the question and o
give a gushing tribute to the woman who had to resign over the issue.

Stupid fucking prick.
 
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He's just digging a bigger hole at the Covid press conference.

Gets asked how can people follow the advice knowing that the government can't/won't...

...and proceeds to ignore the question and o
give a gushing tribute to the woman who had to resign over the issue.

Stupid fucking prick.
The tribute to Allegra Stratton was amazing. He just couldn't stop. So insensitive
 
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Using exactly the same formulation of no rules were broken in relation to the other parties. Just unable to learn.
 

chiefdave

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Using exactly the same formulation of no rules were broken in relation to the other parties. Just unable to learn.
This could come back to haunt him.
Asked if the resignation was evidence of other people taking responsibility for what happens in Downing Street, Johnson says he "takes responsibility for everything that happens in this building and government".
 

chiefdave

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Am I missing something or by the very fact that these parties happened doesn’t that automatically mean that the rules were broken?
If you look at the rules that were in place at the time it would be basically impossible to have any sort of gathering and it not be breaking the rules.
 

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