Grendel
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You certainly don’t teach politics do you?
Do you want to discuss boring politics? (31 Viewers)
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You certainly don’t teach politics do you?
skybluetony176
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Most politics lessons in my experience are run as inductions to the Conservative Party. Johnson as leader really is an embarrassment to the UK on the international stage-I don’t think there is much doubt of that.
Curious to know how long you think the Union has left too.
fernandopartridge
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Finham
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There are others?
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They're only in power because of Johnson's personality which many people seem to like for some inexplicable reason. He goes and they have nothing to appeal to anybody apart from self interested rich people. In a Government of such low competence a leader like Sunak would not have any chance of maintaining public support.
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Apart from he'd be seen as a refreshing change and, indeed, competent.
shmmeee
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What got a lot of Brexiters on board with the Tories was promises of investment post Brexit. I had mates telling me how excited they were there would be so many jobs with all the infrastructure Boris wanted to build. Sunak is an unreconstructed Thatcherite who will slash spending so I can’t see him holding on to red wall voters TBH.
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He will ultimately. Atm however, he's the bloke who spent a lot on furlough and gave us Eat Out to Help Out
skybluetony176
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Evo1883
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The fact they keep denying it , despite clear evidence to suggest otherwise (let's be honest , they obviously have the evidence ) is what is worst .
It's suggests the more they keep acting like nothing happens it will just go away , he will chop many more heads before he chops his own
Agree.
Whenever Johnson goes they'll get a short term bump in the polls.
But in losing Johnson they'll lose a lot of voters. He's ripped up the party and they don't really stand for anything anymore. They'll lose the people who voted for him because of Brexit, the people who voted for him because 'he's a bit of a character and has funny hair' and (this is not specific to Johnson but more an overall point) the people who wanted anyone but Corbyn.
They are going to lose a huge chunk of votes at the next GE. Whether it's enough to kick them out remains to be seen, but I think it'll be very close.
clint van damme
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Heard an interview with Clifton-Brown from the 1922 committee, sounds like Johnson is OK for now but they expect him to buck his ideas up once he's off paternity leave.
Think anyone worried about further lockdowns can relax because they're firmly against it and I dont think Johnson is on firm enough ground to go toe to toe with them at the minute.
Think anyone worried about further lockdowns can relax because they're firmly against it and I dont think Johnson is on firm enough ground to go toe to toe with them at the minute.
Nick
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Dont know what you're on about, there was no party but no rules were broken for said party.
Skybluefaz
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It's been done already. There was stuff about him letting Jimmy Saville of being shared, even by some Tory MP I think. They went after him for buying up land that turned out was for his poorly Mum's donkey sanctuary or something. There will of course be more but I feel he's so 'boring' that it won't be easy to get stuff to stick as it was with Jezza.
Edit: Ha ha, of course it was Nadine Dorries who shared and later deleted a doctored video aimed to make Starmer look like he was protecting grooming gangs. How's that online hate bill coming along Nadine?
JAM See
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It's madness.
Johnson was sacked twice for lying before he became an MP, but that's okay as it's before he served in government.
Any member of the opposition has their entire life scrutinised, looking for perceived impropriety.
You'd almost think that the balanced media had an agenda.
Grendel
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How do you know Mr Johnson has been sacked twice?
Skybluefaz
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Because he quite literally was sacked twice for lying.
Why are you so averse to facts surrounding 'Mr Johnson'?
Northants Sky Blue
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Barely 2 years in the big house and knifes are already sharpened.
He may yet see this off but the shine s worn off way quicker than anticipated
He may yet see this off but the shine s worn off way quicker than anticipated
Jamesimus
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After everything he has presided over, the biggest shock is that he's still there!
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I think the Brexit message had the biggest say, or at least in the scale of the victory, but if it had been down solely to personality Johnson was going to win over Corbyn.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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For now. Not being able to make people laugh makes it a lot harder for them to accept when you start slashing budgets and services while increasing your tax. He would soon lose that popularity.
They have no one else like Johnson in terms of personality.
Are the likes of Sunak or Gove going to keep the red wall voters? Can’t see it.
They do need someone sensible and level headed to steady the ship and stop the scandals, but that type of person would lose a lot of the voters that switched to Tory in the last GE.
I really believe they are in big trouble.
Are the likes of Sunak or Gove going to keep the red wall voters? Can’t see it.
They do need someone sensible and level headed to steady the ship and stop the scandals, but that type of person would lose a lot of the voters that switched to Tory in the last GE.
I really believe they are in big trouble.
Marty
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Labour are just a repackaged version, just as incompetent. There's room for a real party to step in and lead.
Brexit and Corbyn. Corbyn was toxic for a lot of people over 30.