Do you want to discuss boring politics? (15 Viewers)

[skybluetony176]

Did you read it in the media or know him personally?

 

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[PVA]

Did you read it in the media or know him personally?

So when you got in a froth the other day over some Jack Straw comments from 20 years ago - did you read that in the media or did you know him personally?

When you cried your eyes out over Angela Rayner's vile scum comments - did you read that in the media or do you know her personally?

 

[shmmeee]

Should be much higher , Labour should be in the 40s

Stop wasting votes on green and lib dems if you want actual change people , labour can't do it without your votes

In reality Labour vote is higher, bit like Tories with the Brexit Party last time, a lot of Green votes will be squeezed to Labour when election time comes.

 

[PVA]

Has Truss dropped herself right in it?

 

[Skybluefaz]

 

[skybluetony176]

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Has Truss dropped herself right in it?

Of course she didn't have a party - she's livid about bringing cheese in. And frankly I don't want to hear about her opening her pork markets under the mistletoe.

 

[PVA]

But but he's more popular than Thatcher

 

[chiefdave]

Even if your expectations are pretty low this one is still shocking.

Ex-Tory minister Andrew Griffiths found to have raped wife

Andrew Griffiths used "coercive and controlling behaviour", a family court judge hears.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[PVA]

Can't be true as we've read it in the media and don't know him personally.

 

[David O'Day]

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It's a known fact Johnson was sacked for making up a quote and was also sacked from the Tory front bench for having an affair with someone and lying about it,


Still what did Jack Straw say back in 1978?

 

[SBAndy]

Can't be true as we've read it in the media and don't know him personally.

Now I’m not on G’s ‘side’ here but you seem to have missed his point quite spectacularly!

 

[Grendel]

Can't be true as we've read it in the media and don't know him personally.

 

[shmmeee]

Has Truss dropped herself right in it?

She’s on manoeuvres.

 

[fernandopartridge]

She’s on manoeuvres.

She's a bigger buffoon than Johnson

 

[shmmeee]

She's a bigger buffoon than Johnson

It’s buffoons all the way down. She’s popular with members.

 

[PVA]

She would be hilarious as PM.

I don't think she's as corrupt, morally or financially, as Johnson and would put in more effort. But she's pretty thick and would get torn alive by the press and Starmer.

 

[skybluetony176]

Party No. 8. I said they’ll be 10 tongue-in-cheek really but we’re getting there.

 

[skybluetony176]

 

[PVA]

They really are vile scum.

Can't wait for the photos and guest lists to come out

 

[CCFCSteve]

They really are vile scum.

Can't wait for the photos and guest lists to come out

Vile scum ?!

I agree that having a party was obviously wrong but if this was a group of young(ish) people that had been working together anyway and met after work*, I’m not got to hang them for it.

I say that as someone who was on their own last year and changed my Xmas plans but I did that as much through my own common sense about what was risky for higher risk family members rather than any rules.

Am I happy these parties happened, no, is the lying about them acceptable, not at all (and there should be repercussions) That type of language is well over the top though.

*if it was a massive group all travelling in for a big party I might change my view

 

[Sick Boy]

Labour are just a repackaged version, just as incompetent. There's room for a real party to step in and lead.

Laurence Fox fan?

 

[Grendel]

Vile scum ?!

I agree that having a party was obviously wrong but if this was a group of young(ish) people that had been working together anyway and met after work*, I’m not got to hang them for it.

I say that as someone who was on their own last year and changed my Xmas plans but I did that as much through my own common sense about what was risky for higher risk family members rather than any rules.

Am I happy these parties happened, no, is the lying about them acceptable, not at all (and there should be repercussions) That type of language is well over the top though.

*if it was a massive group all travelling in for a big party I might change my view

Too sensible for a professional frother that - good luck!

 

[Nick]

Vile scum ?!

I agree that having a party was obviously wrong but if this was a group of young(ish) people that had been working together anyway and met after work*, I’m not got to hang them for it.

I say that as someone who was on their own last year and changed my Xmas plans but I did that as much through my own common sense about what was risky for higher risk family members rather than any rules.

Am I happy these parties happened, no, is the lying about them acceptable, not at all (and there should be repercussions) That type of language is well over the top though.

*if it was a massive group all travelling in for a big party I might change my view

Yeah but politics is life for some.

 

[Grendel]

Yeah but politics is life for some.

Well it’s life on a football forum for some

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Should be much higher , Labour should be in the 40s

Stop wasting votes on green and lib dems if you want actual change people , labour can't do it without your votes

Labour around here knock on your door to abuse you if you haven't voted for them, and the MP can't be arsed to reply to his constituents. They have a lot of work to do to get my vote back in this marginal seat

 

[Sick Boy]

Labour around here knock on your door to abuse you if you haven't voted for them, and the MP can't be arsed to reply to his constituents. They have a lot of work to do to get my vote back in this marginal seat

That’ll continue while the likes of Rayner are in positions of power

 

[wingy]

She's right isn't she.
Lord knows what we all do in the interim , not particularly due to emissions either.
Logistically the roads are f**ked.

Owning car is outdated '20th-century thinking' transport minister says

Junior transport minister Trudy Harrison, 45, (pictured) said owning a car was outdated '20th-century thinking' and Britain should move to 'shared mobility' to cut carbon emissions.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Skybluefaz]

She's right isn't she.
Lord knows what we all do in the interim , not particularly due to emissions either.
Logistically the roads are f**ked.

Owning car is outdated '20th-century thinking' transport minister says

Junior transport minister Trudy Harrison, 45, (pictured) said owning a car was outdated '20th-century thinking' and Britain should move to 'shared mobility' to cut carbon emissions.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Yeah I agree. Like you say though there is no real alternative yet unless you live in London

 

[Nick]

She's right isn't she.
Lord knows what we all do in the interim , not particularly due to emissions either.
Logistically the roads are f**ked.

Owning car is outdated '20th-century thinking' transport minister says

Junior transport minister Trudy Harrison, 45, (pictured) said owning a car was outdated '20th-century thinking' and Britain should move to 'shared mobility' to cut carbon emissions.

www.dailymail.co.uk

She would be if there was any other option

 

[CCFCSteve]

She's right isn't she.
Lord knows what we all do in the interim , not particularly due to emissions either.
Logistically the roads are f**ked.

Owning car is outdated '20th-century thinking' transport minister says

Junior transport minister Trudy Harrison, 45, (pictured) said owning a car was outdated '20th-century thinking' and Britain should move to 'shared mobility' to cut carbon emissions.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Successive governments ignored investment in better public transport infrastructure after sucking motorists dry through road tax and fuel duty. It’s only been in recent years when Birmingham have put the metro through city centre and started connecting outer areas. It’s been painfully slow and very expensive but needs to happen if you’re encouraging people not to drive, especially short journeys. Rail network has needed improving for 20-30 years

 

[Ian1779]

That’ll continue while the likes of Rayner are in positions of power

I disagree - it’s people like Phillips and Streeting who think they are entitled and untouchable, and this empowers people of a similar ilk. Rayner has many faults but that’s not one of them.

 

[chiefdave]

She would be if there was any other option

This is the problem. She is completely right but if I got rid of my car, which spends an ever increasing amount of time sat on my drive, going pretty much anywhere would become a mission.

I can't just jump on a bus to places like the Ricoh or UHCW. I've got a bus once since I moved back here, was only a short trip to the station and I've not done it since as an Uber is cheaper.

 

[PVA]

Vile scum ?!

I agree that having a party was obviously wrong but if this was a group of young(ish) people that had been working together anyway and met after work*, I’m not got to hang them for it.

I say that as someone who was on their own last year and changed my Xmas plans but I did that as much through my own common sense about what was risky for higher risk family members rather than any rules.

Am I happy these parties happened, no, is the lying about them acceptable, not at all (and there should be repercussions) That type of language is well over the top though.

*if it was a massive group all travelling in for a big party I might change my view

Over the top?!

These pricks literally killed thousands of people with their incompetence
Then broke the very rules they set
While the rest of us followed them, meaning some people couldn't say goodbye to loved ones before they died
Then they laughed about it
Then they lied about it


And a few derogatory words on an Internet forum is over the top? Sorry Steve, I like you and your posts but that's ridiculous. No wonder they keep getting away with it if that's the reaction!

And yes it was a big group travelling in for a party. There were invites and awards and secret santa.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Vile scum ?!

I agree that having a party was obviously wrong but if this was a group of young(ish) people that had been working together anyway and met after work*, I’m not got to hang them for it.

I say that as someone who was on their own last year and changed my Xmas plans but I did that as much through my own common sense about what was risky for higher risk family members rather than any rules.

Am I happy these parties happened, no, is the lying about them acceptable, not at all (and there should be repercussions) That type of language is well over the top though.

*if it was a massive group all travelling in for a big party I might change my view

Steve, should we concern ourselves more with aggressive language that isn’t even profanity or things like ‘let the bodies pile high’, ‘Operation Last Gasp’ and so on coming from the PM?