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PVA

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His whacking majority mainly came because the clueless idiots in labour denied the public a general election

Their strategy is always a disaster. Who votes for a party who itself doesn’t think it’s capable of government?

Now all starmer cares about is a party with some games and forensically crawling through if the police should investigate - he’s an idiot and now is ensuring the legislation goes through next week despite he saying he doesn’t agree with it and 80 Tories going against it as their constituents don’t want it

Imagine the PM breaks the law and you're more concerned about the LOTO holding him to account than the actual law breaking.

Good grief.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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I don't have a hat in either party, I don't believe a word politician's say. Labour and tory are different sides of the same coin.

Furthermore, I knew the newspapers have agendas, and tried to push their side but I believed it was based on truth, but the outright lies they continue to push of a certain case has opened my eyes to them too.

We deserve so much better then we have.
There are some wonderful public servants but I agree with the last sentence
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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His whacking majority mainly came because the clueless idiots in labour denied the public a general election

Their strategy is always a disaster. Who votes for a party who itself doesn’t think it’s capable of government?

Now all starmer cares about is a party with some games and forensically crawling through if the police should investigate - he’s an idiot and now is ensuring the legislation goes through next week despite he saying he doesn’t agree with it and 80 Tories going against it as their constituents don’t want it

He got it because Corbyn agreed to something stacked in the government’s favour when he didn’t have to. Then ‘Get Brexit Done’ apparently overrides a decade of incompetence and cuts and was heavily rewarded by a part of the country the Tories laid waste to in the 80s and disregarded in the 2010s.

Now these northern Tories have suddenly clocked on to him being a full of shit charlatan and the seats he helped con for them are precarious. They owe their positions to him and are pretty much tied to his fate
 

Grendel

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He got it because Corbyn agreed to something stacked in the government’s favour when he didn’t have to. Then ‘Get Brexit Done’ apparently overrides a decade of incompetence and cuts and was heavily rewarded by a part of the country the Tories laid waste to in the 80s and disregarded in the 2010s.

Now these northern Tories have suddenly clocked on to him being a full of shit charlatan and the seats he helped con for them are precarious. They owe their positions to him and are pretty much tied to his fate

No your analysis is wrong
 

PVA

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It was a disgrace that Johnson was ever elected PM, none of what’s going on should be a surprise.

Yeah I'm not sure what people thought would happen if you elect a disgraced journalist as PM because he got stuck on a zipline and has funny hair.

Tragically thousands of people died unnecessarily as a result.
 

Grendel

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It was a disgrace that Johnson was ever elected PM, none of what’s going on should be a surprise.

There really isn’t for the average person much going on is there
 

Marty

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Yeah I'm not sure what people thought would happen if you elect a disgraced journalist as PM because he got stuck on a zipline and has funny hair.

Tragically thousands of people died unnecessarily as a result.

It was a choice of a bumbling idiot or a terrorist sympathiser. Neither Johnson or Corbyn should have been anywhere leadership roles. Without being too deep into politics, I've always thought Andy Burnham has come across well when I've seen him speak.
 

Grendel

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Disagree, while there’s worse going on from them at the moment, this is the sort of thing that resonates with the wider public.

For a few days
 

Marty

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I might regret asking this but what case are you referring to?

Kyle Rittenhouse, I followed the trial while I had nothing to do at work. What the media told us and the facts presented to the court aren't even close.
 

PVA

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It was a choice of a bumbling idiot or a terrorist sympathiser. Neither Johnson or Corbyn should have been anywhere leadership roles. Without being too deep into politics, I've always thought Andy Burnham has come across well when I've seen him speak.

I agree it was a dreadful choice.

It was choice between chopping your leg off or being kicked in the nuts. One of those is worse than the other.

I can't stand Corbyn. I didn't vote for Labour because I wanted Corbyn as PM, I voted for Labour because I didn't want Johnson as PM. I think I've been vindicated in that choice.

Not that it mattered, my constituency is a safe Tory seat.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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It was a choice of a bumbling idiot or a terrorist sympathiser. Neither Johnson or Corbyn should have been anywhere leadership roles. Without being too deep into politics, I've always thought Andy Burnham has come across well when I've seen him speak.

I agree on that last point, but don't see how he'll become leader any time soon.
 

CCFCSteve

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Pre recorded, so no questions from journos. No new restrictions being announced so just a cowardly way of telling us how wonderful the vaccine rollout is to deflect away from the ongoing shit show. So transparent 😂

Thats what I thought when I saw 500k+ boosters administered yesterday. I’d imagine it will be that and re-enforcing need for people to get jabbed/boostered

Needs to align himself to positive news
 
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CCFCSteve

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Told us nothing. Pure attention seeking

I do think it was at least partially political as PVA suggested earlier, however, there’s no harm reiterating the message...some people don’t appear to be able to make decisions for themselves unless there’s a tv briefing/statement to tell them what to do. Hopefully this will be the kick up the arse they needed
 

CCFCSteve

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Distraction



The statement is not really going to distract for long though. Any other party info will come out in coming days and get plenty of coverage. Johnson will be praying for a successful increased Booster roll out and no further restrictions to at least salvage/secure some political goodwill

More party news, significant hospitalisations and further restrictions and he’ll be really struggling
 

Grendel

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The statement is not really going to distract for long though. Any other party info will come out in coming days and get plenty of coverage. Johnson will be praying for a successful increased Booster roll out and no further restrictions to at least salvage/secure some political goodwill

Party news, significant hospitalisations and further restrictions and he’ll be really struggling

Cant see how 19 million jabs will be done in 18 days
 

CCFCSteve

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Cant see how 19 million jabs will be done in 18 days

Nor me but either way programme will be ramped up and if hospitalisations can stay under control and no further restrictions are necessary (both big IFs !) it will be political points for government, or that’s what Johnson will be praying for…whether it was due to boosters or fact Omicron is just milder !
 

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