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[chiefdave]

Good example of Tory double standards.

Baker was on Marr this morning. Doing his best to make the Conservative & Labour front benches look like they're full of geniuses. The talent pool in parliament is astonishingly poor.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

His whacking majority mainly came because the clueless idiots in labour denied the public a general election

Their strategy is always a disaster. Who votes for a party who itself doesn’t think it’s capable of government?

Now all starmer cares about is a party with some games and forensically crawling through if the police should investigate - he’s an idiot and now is ensuring the legislation goes through next week despite he saying he doesn’t agree with it and 80 Tories going against it as their constituents don’t want it

He got it because Corbyn agreed to something stacked in the government’s favour when he didn’t have to. Then ‘Get Brexit Done’ apparently overrides a decade of incompetence and cuts and was heavily rewarded by a part of the country the Tories laid waste to in the 80s and disregarded in the 2010s.

Now these northern Tories have suddenly clocked on to him being a full of shit charlatan and the seats he helped con for them are precarious. They owe their positions to him and are pretty much tied to his fate

 

[shmmeee]

They’re curtains…

 

[Grendel]

He got it because Corbyn agreed to something stacked in the government’s favour when he didn’t have to. Then ‘Get Brexit Done’ apparently overrides a decade of incompetence and cuts and was heavily rewarded by a part of the country the Tories laid waste to in the 80s and disregarded in the 2010s.

Now these northern Tories have suddenly clocked on to him being a full of shit charlatan and the seats he helped con for them are precarious. They owe their positions to him and are pretty much tied to his fate

No your analysis is wrong

 

[Skybluefaz]

They’re curtains…

It'll be curtains for the Prime Minister soon more like! Lolololol

 

[Sick Boy]

It was a disgrace that Johnson was ever elected PM, none of what’s going on should be a surprise.

 

[PVA]

It was a disgrace that Johnson was ever elected PM, none of what’s going on should be a surprise.

Yeah I'm not sure what people thought would happen if you elect a disgraced journalist as PM because he got stuck on a zipline and has funny hair.

Tragically thousands of people died unnecessarily as a result.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

No your analysis is wrong

Ok well that’s me told

 

[Grendel]

It was a disgrace that Johnson was ever elected PM, none of what’s going on should be a surprise.

There really isn’t for the average person much going on is there

 

[Skybluefaz]

There really isn’t for the average person much going on is there

Really?

 

[Sick Boy]

There really isn’t for the average person much going on is there

Disagree, while there’s worse going on from them at the moment, this is the sort of thing that resonates with the wider public.

 

[Marty]

Yeah I'm not sure what people thought would happen if you elect a disgraced journalist as PM because he got stuck on a zipline and has funny hair.

Tragically thousands of people died unnecessarily as a result.

It was a choice of a bumbling idiot or a terrorist sympathiser. Neither Johnson or Corbyn should have been anywhere leadership roles. Without being too deep into politics, I've always thought Andy Burnham has come across well when I've seen him speak.

 

[PVA]

There really isn’t for the average person much going on is there

Fucking hell

 

[chiefdave]

the outright lies they continue to push of a certain case has opened my eyes to them too.

I might regret asking this but what case are you referring to?

 

[Grendel]

Disagree, while there’s worse going on from them at the moment, this is the sort of thing that resonates with the wider public.

For a few days

 

[Sick Boy]

For a few days

Again disagree, especially for those who have lost loved ones.

 

[Marty]

I might regret asking this but what case are you referring to?

Kyle Rittenhouse, I followed the trial while I had nothing to do at work. What the media told us and the facts presented to the court aren't even close.

 

[PVA]

It was a choice of a bumbling idiot or a terrorist sympathiser. Neither Johnson or Corbyn should have been anywhere leadership roles. Without being too deep into politics, I've always thought Andy Burnham has come across well when I've seen him speak.

I agree it was a dreadful choice.

It was choice between chopping your leg off or being kicked in the nuts. One of those is worse than the other.

I can't stand Corbyn. I didn't vote for Labour because I wanted Corbyn as PM, I voted for Labour because I didn't want Johnson as PM. I think I've been vindicated in that choice.

Not that it mattered, my constituency is a safe Tory seat.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It was a choice of a bumbling idiot or a terrorist sympathiser. Neither Johnson or Corbyn should have been anywhere leadership roles. Without being too deep into politics, I've always thought Andy Burnham has come across well when I've seen him speak.

I agree on that last point, but don't see how he'll become leader any time soon.

 

[clint van damme]

If anyone was present at the Downing street quiz they'r giving out the answers later this evening.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If anyone was present at the Downing street quiz they'r giving out the answers later this evening.

Surely he's just carrying out this year's quiz? I'm ready for the Spock question this time.

 

[clint van damme]

Surely he's just carrying out this year's quiz? I'm ready for the Spock question this time.

to elect a floppy haired lying fuckwitted opportunist to run your country, that is illogical.

 

[PVA]

Pre recorded, so no questions from journos. No new restrictions being announced so just a cowardly way of telling us how wonderful the vaccine rollout is to deflect away from the ongoing shit show. So transparent

 

[CCFCSteve]

Pre recorded, so no questions from journos. No new restrictions being announced so just a cowardly way of telling us how wonderful the vaccine rollout is to deflect away from the ongoing shit show. So transparent

Thats what I thought when I saw 500k+ boosters administered yesterday. I’d imagine it will be that and re-enforcing need for people to get jabbed/boostered

Needs to align himself to positive news

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Told us nothing. Pure attention seeking

 

[Grendel]

Told us nothing. Pure attention seeking

A million booster target a day is nothing - ok

 

[CCFCSteve]

Told us nothing. Pure attention seeking

I do think it was at least partially political as PVA suggested earlier, however, there’s no harm reiterating the message...some people don’t appear to be able to make decisions for themselves unless there’s a tv briefing/statement to tell them what to do. Hopefully this will be the kick up the arse they needed

 

[skybluetony176]

Told us nothing. Pure attention seeking

Distraction

 

[CCFCSteve]

Distraction

The statement is not really going to distract for long though. Any other party info will come out in coming days and get plenty of coverage. Johnson will be praying for a successful increased Booster roll out and no further restrictions to at least salvage/secure some political goodwill

More party news, significant hospitalisations and further restrictions and he’ll be really struggling

 

[Grendel]

The statement is not really going to distract for long though. Any other party info will come out in coming days and get plenty of coverage. Johnson will be praying for a successful increased Booster roll out and no further restrictions to at least salvage/secure some political goodwill

Party news, significant hospitalisations and further restrictions and he’ll be really struggling

Cant see how 19 million jabs will be done in 18 days

 

[Deleted member 9744]

A million booster target a day is nothing - ok

It's a target. Telling us does nothing. They just need to get on with it.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Cant see how 19 million jabs will be done in 18 days

Nor me but either way programme will be ramped up and if hospitalisations can stay under control and no further restrictions are necessary (both big IFs !) it will be political points for government, or that’s what Johnson will be praying for…whether it was due to boosters or fact Omicron is just milder !

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I do think it was at least partially political as PVA suggested earlier, however, there’s no harm reiterating the message...some people don’t appear to be able to make decisions for themselves unless there’s a tv briefing/statement to tell them what to do. Hopefully this will be the kick up the arse they needed

I can perhaps believe them having the capacity and infrastructure required but given that these days involve Christmas Eve, Day and Boxing Day, plus NYE, he’ll have a hard time persuading that many to turn up

 

[fernandopartridge]

Or, to put it another way, they are avoiding playing party politics at the expense of public health and instead are siding with the government to save lives.

There are many, many things you can criticise Labour for, but backing life saving measures is not one of them.

It's not playing politics you utter . The restrictions in themselves are useless without enablers, where was his pressure on sick pay / reinstating furlough?
He's basically conceding an argument where NHS capacity (always stretched at winter) is something that nothing can be done about aside from restrictions.

 

[chiefdave]

I can perhaps believe them having the capacity and infrastructure required but given that these days involve Christmas Eve, Day and Boxing Day, plus NYE, he’ll have a hard time persuading that many to turn up

Capacity and infrastructure is one thing, although it would need to be in place ready to open tomorrow morning which seems short notice. Getting a million plus people a day to turn up and get jabbed is an entirely different proposition.