Still ignoring my post that proved you wrong I see.
Though you are one of the senile old fools you're referring to I suppose.
Policies are irrelevant we’ve been here before
Love it when Islington is used as an insult, when only one of the two party leaders lives there, and it isn’t Starmer.
I think the woke stuff isn’t liked, but I don’t think the British public is the 14 year old edge lords you portray them as either.
Polling suggests the public support self id and medically transitioned TW in women’s spaces for example, but not untransitioned:
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On this issue alone Con voters are out of step on 7 compared to 6 for Labour voters.
On BLM and taking the knee the public is split but generally supports the aims of BLM:
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That first column after the totals is Con voters, again out of step with public opinion on the overall issue.
There’s little to no polling on CRT because outside of edgelord and woke Twitter it’s a completely meaningless phrase with no cut through to the general public.
And you say middle class, but again the proportion of votes from the middle classes are higher for the Tories than Labour:
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It really doesn’t get more complex than this:
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And this:
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Er which post was that? Ironic as you’ve scuttled round every point I’ve made
I don't think it's a small amount to be fair , it's a huge chunk of their membership for starters(Labour)
The party is followed by millions of insufferable twats
Sorry but it's true
As are many parties. The proper hardcore element of the woke brigade surely must follow the Greens more than anyone, then arguably Lib Dem. Greens have some mad social justice stuff that really undermines their main issues.
Should they be banned for standing? I mean let’s be honest however educated and young you are you must be as thick as Pig shit to vote for them if it’s not because you believe in them?
Thing I find hard to tally in that is that Con voters are so out of step with public opinion overall, but as Tories have a good majority you're left wondering how on earth can that many people disagree with them yet they win.
Only things I can come up with is lower turnout of people with those beliefs and those opinions being split between a number of parties (Lab/LD/Green/SNP to a degree etc) whereas those who don't tend to just get behind Tories as other right wing parties like UKIP/BNP etc don't tend to get quite the same, certainly in GE.
Most issues are around 50% for the plurality/majority opinion. The country is about 55% left 45% right generally. But the 55% is spread across 5/6 parties, including 2/3 reasonable large ones, and the 45% is between the Tories and one of the joke parties like Reform/BXP.
Turnout is an obvious issue as well, it’s basically the inverse of the left wing vote.
Mostly though, it’s that the Tories try and win elections and Labour try and win arguments IMO.
It’s actually 80% in the middle
We're going over old ground here but it STILL hasn't been answered.
Not voting wanting to vote for Labour is fine.
But STILL nobody can answer what's then so appealing about voting Tory.
It's been answered but you have chosen to ignore or else have dismissed it out of hand, as you usually do, as well as simply being contrary in your arguments rather than debate, hence folks can't be bothered to further respond to your repeated claim.
It hasn't been answered.
Still.
Unless you're counting your bizarre aspirations claim.
For many, the 2019 GE was a watershed moment when many who couldn’t ever have imagined voting Tory actually did so due to the Brexit situation. I think now, with the fact that very little has happened on this yet to spur the taste, many of those people no longer see what the fuss is about and have more appetite to vote Tory in the future.
Someone said earlier on that the Tories try to win elections and Labour try to win arguments. I don’t think that’s the case. Labour tries to win the battle of morality constantly, refusing to properly go after the bluster of “no one cares about X” or “we’re just getting on with the job”. I think back to the 2019 GE and how it was basically a Brexit referendum by proxy, and not once can I recall Labour making clear that it wasn’t a one-policy issue and how ridiculous the Tories’ manifesto was - almost like a colouring book.
Until they stop trying to play super-nice all the time and start calling things as they see them, they will struggle.
Take your pick. Every little 'fact' you've come up with this morning has proven to be rubbish. Especially the one about Facebook age groups.
Er no it isn’t
UK Facebook users by age group 2024 | Statista
Users aged 25 to 34 years old made up the largest audience of Facebook in the United Kingdom in July 2024, accounting for 24.7 percent of all users.www.statista.com
I’ve already provided this
Have you just learned how to use gifs or something?
You’re just being a woke liberal leftie metropolitan who doesn’t understand the working man’s way of communicating.
In this article for SpikedmrtrenchBrendan O’Neil argues...
Both sides are as bad as the other on there, it’s a cesspit.There are literally thousands of posts on twitter right now telling people if they vote conservatives then they are racist...idiots...thick....hate poor people... hate this hate that etc etc...same every election
Now I don't vote tory , but I'm not about to tell people that their vote means they are a wanker
The only age groups where Facebook users are growing is the older age groups (over 65 especially). In the younger groups the numbers are in decline and under 20 its just seen as something old people do. A bit like how smoking woodbines was seen as something old people did by the B&H generation.
Quite.
But Grendel thinks that's 'just rubbish' and apparently proved it's rubbish by posting the current numbers, without a comparison to previous years.
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